2011 census says 95,854 according to the always reliable wikipedia
Looks like its population is then 95,815 men and 39 women. ;)
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2011 census says 95,854 according to the always reliable wikipedia
Looks like its population is then 95,815 men and 39 women. ;)
Limerick - You have to remember we're playing at Jackman park at the moment. Tickets were a joke. I went with a senior and 2 kids, missed the first 10 mins queueing, had to pay full price (€12) for all of us as the guy didn't have any other tickets and then there were no seats for us when we got in.
I'm suprised they managed to get 900 in. It's the kind of plan you'd have if you didn't want people to turn up for games. Then you have the chairman telling season ticket holders to **** off too.
4,817 at the Cross for City v Limerick per the club twitter account, thought I heard 4,802 over the tannoy for what it's worth.
EDIT: 751 official in Finn Park. Minus around 100 school children in on free tickets.
Attendances tonight:
Cork v Limerick - 4,817
UCD v Shels - 387
St Pats v Bray - 1,329
Bohs v Galway - 1,488
Harps v Cabo - 751
Athlone v Cobh - 340
Was given a figure of 'around 2,200' by Derry.
Drogheda won't be available until next week.
Healthy attendances all round long may it continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Week 2:
Cork City v Limerick - 4,817
Derry v Dundalk - 2,200 (est)
Bohemians v Galway - 1,488
St Pats v Bray - 1,329
Drogheda v Sligo 700 (est)
Finn Harps v Cabinteely - 751
Wexford v Waterford - 700 (est)
UCD v Shelbourne - 387
Athlone v Cobh - 340
Total attendance: 12,012
Average Premier: 2,107
Average First: 545
Total Average: 1,412
Back to reality this week, some poor and disappointing attendances there.
Very consistant from Derry.
Week 2: (Here we go again)
PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 1,488 (1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488; 1,835; 2,366)
Bray - 973 (718; 891; 965; 1,121; 952; 1,169)
Cork - 4,817 (3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681)
Derry - 2,200 (1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436)
Drogheda - 700 (1,064; 817; 977; 811; 859; 1,106)
Dundalk - 3,336(2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355; 1,877; 2,371)
Galway - 2,254 (975 FD)
Limerick - 920 (757; 1,649; 734 FD; 569 FD; 598 FD; 429 FD)
Longford - n/a (567 FD; 379 FD; 365 FD; 315 FD; 230 FD; 260 FD)
Pat's - 1,329 (1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346; 1,756; 1,631)
Rovers - 4,484 (2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779; 3,794; 3,611)
Sligo - 3,082 (1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103; 1,807; 1,756)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 340 (653 PD; 754; 271; 200; 354; 462)
Cabinteely - 1,420 (No previous)
Cobh - 352 (223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681; 368; 403)
Harps - 751 (449; 479; 429; 433; 644; 480) -
Shels - 728 (713; 1,114 PD; 1,187 PD; 781; 737; 972)
UCD - 387 (397 PD; 487 PD; 506 PD; 558 PD; 610 PD; 272)
Waterford - 565 (470; 478; 453; 466; 619; 434)
Wexford - 700 (331; 227; 302; 216; 343; 494)
PREMIER AVERAGe: 2,326 (1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547; 1,512; 2,010)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 655 (495; 391; 372; 578; 682; 417)
OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,622 (1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110; 1,095; 1,175)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 5,243 (55,408)
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 25,583 (297,334)
OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 30,826 (352,742)
Funny I thought the same. Some very disappointing given that it was such a good day and the first home game for all the clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
The attendances by Pats and Bohs were both very disappointing turn outs. These completely bucked the trend set by Cork, Rovers, Dundalk and Sligo on their opening matches.
To be fair Galway and Derry both exceed 2k also.
Poor turnout in Wexford. Given there preseason hype and with it been there first home game of the season and us only having to travel an hour or so to get there I would of thought the attendance would of been closer to a thousand. I don't think there was 700 there either I would of thought about 400/450 - stand wasn't even full and there weren't even a hundred standing around the ground I'd say.
Pat's low crowds are well documented even though they are always up at the Business end of the table. Our crowd was low considering it was a nice evening and 1st home game of the season. I don't know what more can be done to boost attendances in Dublin.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
The Bohs crowd was small on such a lovely day/evening weather-wise. Game was not great either, but still you would expect more to turn up for what are still one of Ireland's big clubs. It seems there is a limited market for LoI soccer in Dublin, from the traditional areas anyway. Maybe target tourists/immigrants. Hope Galway can maintain the interest in the club as well after 2 poor results.
At least Harps seem up considerably, a consistent run and your average should shoot up.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Any attendance from Longford? Very surprised by it. Stand wasnt even half full and there wasnt too many in section O. Honestly expected 1500+. Rovers nearly had as much as them.
Just over 2,000 there according to the Longford Leader. Wouldn't be far off I'd say. Rovers had about 700 or maybe more there. Home support was disappointing but we never get a big crowd for Shamrock Rovers. A lot of kids aren't brought out due to the expectation of trouble over the years. Rovers crowd were fine tonight though aside from the pyros I suppose and the Gardai were fairly low profile too which I wasn't expecting.
What does the main stand hold out of curiosity?
Holds 1500. I would have said it was around two thirds full. It wasn't at the start of the game but it filled up a bit as the latecomers arrived.
There was 500 from Rovers. They were expecting 8-10 buses down but only 5 found their way!
Just seen the tweet by Leader. I'd of put the crowd at around 1600-1700 mark with 500 Rovers fans. Some gome of a Rovers fan is saying there were more Rovers than Town fans at it....and according to his Twitter he's a student accountant!! That doesn't bode well for anyone who might hire him ;)
Rovers aside, it would appear LOI is just not improving in the capital looking at the last 5 years attendance figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
Also it's worth noting Rovers too have seen a drop off in crowds, granted they should improve this season, but overall the appetitive for fans within the city appears to be slipping for most clubs. This is a real shame as there is a huge market to draw from.
Counted 7 Buses in the away car park after the game...
I'd of out the attendance at about 1300.
Stand looked half full with about 80 in the "famous section o".
It's just 'Section O', Ted. Glad the lads are famous now all the same :DQuote:
Originally Posted by LOI_Fanatic
Those other two buses were for the CIA and UN forces!
It's not a great sign if fans won't come out for the first home game after many years in the wilderness.Quote:
Originally Posted by LOI_Fanatic
A couple of lads from Dundalk went over to the game to see what Rovers were like. While they didn't mention numbers to me, they just said the home crowd was very poor.
As previously stated a lot of people would of stayed away because of previous trouble from Rovers fans. And because the Town are mainly a family friendly club parents would of been unwilling to bring their kids to this particular game. But in fairness to the Rovers fans, on their last two visits they have been well behaved.
On another note I don't know what other league clubs think the size of Longford is but we have the second smallest population in Ireland county wise. Our county population is 39,000 compared to Louth's 122,000. So the defending league champions opening up with a crowd of 3,300 compared to our 1,700 we ain't doing too bad in that regard.
Last season's average attendance was 550 odd, only bumped up by the last match, in reality it was a fair bit lower, so for our home game to be a good 300-400% or more higher than last season's average, I think it's not too bad lads, we got crowds of just about 1,000 when we went down, and closer to 1.5k when things were going really well a few years ago. Longford was a much more densely populated town at the time or at least certainly less of a hole. We've brought it up before, but there's a fairly big number of people who would have gone to town games a decade ago, who don't live near the place any more.
I doubt anyone from within Longford expects our average attendance for the season to exceed 1,000, I'd imagine closer to the 800 mark if we do badly, more if we do relatively well obviously. We don't have the population as Town Legend mentioned for sustained support week in week out, everyone has the potential to draw a crowd for the one big game a year or whatever in a cup.
edit: if anyone's interested, 2011 census has the Longford Town population at 9,601. A metropolis if you will.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Town Legend
Louth has two teams.
Louth has one team and share another with Meath! And even with two, their population still is a lot more than Longford's. 122,000 split between 2, would give you 61,000 compared to 39,000.
Using census figures to justify ****e crowds.
One of the things that made this the #greatestleagueintheworld.
Any official figure from Longford yet?
It just takes a bit of cop on to realise you won't pull in big crowds if you don't have a big population. But I wouldn't expect you to understand that!
And yet Sligo has a smaller urban area population than Bray, Tralee, Carlow, Athlone, Wexford and Letterkenny amongst others yet averages 2nd or 3rd in attendances over the last couple of years.
Waterford and Finn Harps both averaging in the 400's the last couple of years despite Waterford having 45,000 on Ballybofey-Stranorlar.
But you have to take in other perspectives. Donegal probably has a bigger population than Co Waterford and Harps have larger than normal rural support across the county.
While I'd say Sligo's support is probably helped by it being a successful soccer club in a county which is poor at both GAA codes?
Quote:
Originally Posted by toffeejay
Donegal is a poor example really. A lot of north Donegal are Derry fans and a lot of South Donegal are Sligo fans due to the sheer size of the county and proximity to the other clubs.
Define "a lot"?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Very many, a large number; also, very much. For example, "A lot of people think the economy is declining", or "Sad movies always made her cry a lot". It is sometimes put as a whole lot for greater emphasis, as in "I learned a whole lot in his class". It may also emphasize a comparative indication of amount, as in "We need a whole lot more pizza to feed everyone", or "Mary had a lot less nerve than I expected".Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
for us the killer is the ground is three miles out of town. out of all the loi clubs we are probably the furthest out of town. its not an excuse but you have to face the reality.
we were down on heads in section o as a few of them have gone to a match in Germany probably booked from ages ago.. All of our massive attendances of over 5k were in the early noughties when Stephen Kenny was in charge and it was winter football and there was nothing clashing. Summer soccer has killed the loi for Longford Town thats for sure!
I'd say Wexford is more remote. But grounds so far from the town will always cause problems getting crowds out for games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Ferrycarraig Park is definitely further out of Wexford and more difficult to get to than CCS is out of Longford. Terryland Park isn't exactly city centre either.
I'm not sure if that was a typo Marty but we've never, ever gotten 5k out there for a Town game! In the Kenny days we got 1,500 or so for a few league games, since then we've had maybe 3k for various cup games and just over 4,000 for the league cup final in 2004.
Nigel Terryland is a ten minute walk from the centre of Galway.