Wonder what the gift is?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
A weekend away with Frank Stapleton?
An FAI ballpoint pen?
I'm intrigued...
Wonder what the gift is?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
A weekend away with Frank Stapleton?
An FAI ballpoint pen?
I'm intrigued...
Wonder how many free drinks?
Interesting perspective on it. I once met a very eloquent and obviously-intelligent left-leaning lad who made an impassioned defence of hooliganism as we talked about many things related to politics and football. He directed me towards his blog where he'd written on this in greater detail. I'm not necessarily saying I was convinced of the merits of hooliganism, but his thoughts certainly surprised me in the sense he was anything but the nasty, boorish and burly EDL-sort that people tend to commonly associate with hooliganism: https://northernladsclub.wordpress.c...f-hooligansim/Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
'Ireland Team vs England In 1995 – Where Are They Now?': http://balls.ie/football/ireland-vs-...source=twitter
Obviously I can only judge your mate by his blog, but alas I started to glaze over at lumpenproletariat, petty bourgeoisie and commentariat in the first paragraph. That's verbiage as much as a sign of obvious intelligence, although he's clearly well-traveled and observant.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
As for the British Left (of mainstream Labour), I expect its best electoral result for decades in our forthcoming elections. Wonder if Northern Lad will still think it's a standing joke if that happens?
EDL turned up here (Dudley) last week for a well-publicised rally protesting both against a proposed local mosque and general 'Islamisation'. I was at the counter-demo elsewhere in town. The EDL website, as well as plenty of footage of burly, masked goons included an analysis of the sacred Hadiths. Impressive, but probably not of great interest to most of the crowd.
If NL and his mates want a ruck to let off steam without upsetting the lefty students they so despise, can't they find an abandoned quarry or uninhabitated island somewhere? The NI contingent could take along the local unionist and nationalist career rioters and all.
Not so much a mate; more a friend of a friend of a friend who I happened to chat to once after a night out and whose views I found interesting in the sense they were not remotely mainstream. I'd perceived him as intelligent before I read his blog. I have no idea what his present views on the state of the British left would be, however, as I have no affiliation or connection whatsoever to the Northern Lads Club. Even in spite of the verbiage! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Gather round
The Football Association of Ireland today (Wednesday) confirmed that kick-off time for the Three International Friendly between the Republic of Ireland and England has been confirmed for 1pm on Sunday, June 7 following discussions with the FA, broadcasters, and the Gardaí.
3,000 tickets will be made available through the FA for English supporters.
Irish ticket sales details will be provided in due course.
Super!
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Originally Posted by joe_denilson
Wonder are they expecting trouble?
Yes!!
2 years ago the wembley friendly had an evening ko with not even the slightest hint of trouble. in fact the atmosphere was great and I found it a great occasion. the english FA posting a great tribute to the recently passed away tony grealish up on the big screen being one example of the friendly atmosphere in the ground. there isnt the slightest chance of trouble for the return fixture yet we have to suffer a 1pm sunday ko. complete and utter over reaction by the authorities
Was at the wembley game myself and i completely agree with you....it was excellently respected by both sets of fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Think though the more Scum element of that section of their "fans" tends to come out at their away games though ...unfortunately , but hopefully not here in June
Have to disagree slightly with both of you. Was at the game too, but we were in the mixed section, both Irish and English fans. Once Long scored, the stewards grabbed all of us and brought us around to the Irish fans section.
They said they'd seen no trouble, but they weren't taking any chances
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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Was in the Irish Section myself - so maybe I was not in the best position to see any "potential" trouble that may have occurred
But surely in the above case , thats more a case of over zealous Stewards rather than there been any trouble in your section?
Before ye were moved was there something brewing between opposition fans in the section ye were in?
A little. There was another group of Irish fans about three rows in front of us that had to call a steward to move some English fans who were in their seats just before kick off. The steward hadn't gone too far when Long scored, and he called them out of their seats straight away. We got his attention and he took us over to the Irish section as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by back of the net
Were they refusing to move seats initially ? The England fans in those seats.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
And did you feel unsafe at any point in this ?
Probably just a case of stewards being overly careful and attentive of health and safety precautions. It'll be there in the terms and conditions of entry into a stadium for any game like that that the stewards have the right to demand away supporters found in the home section to leave the stadium. Count yourself lucky you were only moved to the Irish section! :p
sure that sitting in others seats lark happens with our lot all the time. theres a lad on YBIG who seems to get some kind of buzz off doing so all the time and posts about it regularlyQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
He sounds like great craic.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Yes, it was just before kick off when the other Irish fans came along, the English fans wouldn't get out of their seats, so the steward was called and he moved themQuote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
didn't feel unsafe, but the England fans behind us had some words about my reaction when Long scored. Nothing intimidating, more along the lines of "alright mate, calm down". That was pretty much the time the steward called the other Irish fans out of their seats and we got his attention
He obviously didn't know it was our cup final.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Yes have to agree. All it takes is one and it can kick off. A bit surprised they took a chance on having a mixed section to be honest. I know at club level Fulham have one well they did the last time I was there.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Good grief, the English media are really on their high horse about this minor pitch invasion last week.
I turned on the telly and it looked to me to be a spontaneous outpouring of joy from Villa fans, just like a team avoiding relegation on the last day. So, a few morons went overboard but was it really worse than that? I haven't paid much attention to the incident so maybe it was.
Some WBA fans had ripped up chairs and tried to throw them on the pitch so I'm sure some of the Villa fans were looking for a fight. Still, nothing happened. All this talk about scenes from the 1980s is pathetic.
Does Martin Samuel not remember who initiated and sustained the 1995 riot?
Yeah, trips to Dublin have been awash with scenes of crowd trouble forever.
The Mail will be the first paper to continuously highlight the 95 riots though in the lead up.
I heard there was a very bad vibe around Dublin the day of the 1990 Euro qualifier also, can any of our golden oldies confirm or deny this?
Yeah, I had a memory of news footage of "fans" charging each on O'Connell Street but I went to check and, sure enough, "Over 100 people were arrested as England and Ireland fans clashed in Dublin after the game" (http://www.independent.ie/sport/vide...-29303997.html)Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
BTW, thanks for the Golden Oldies comment - I thought I was still in the prime of my life, now I realise I'm actually decaying rapidly and moving inexorably towards a hole in the ground - now if I could just get those damn kids to turn down their "music"!
In fairness, I'm old enough to remember the game pretty well myself. Wouldn't have been attending games at that point though.
There was a very bad vibe in the city that day - if I remember there was an IRA prisoner released on the day of the game so that added to the tension. The Gardai were taking no messing from the English fans and there were stories of them being picked up, beaten up in the Garda vans and dropped off in Fatima Mansions, Dolphin House, Sheriff Street and O'Devanney Gardens etc for the local welcoming committee to meet and greet them. I recall pitch battles the night before the game and on the morning of the game - I was living in England at the time and I was back for the game so I wasn't in work. I think an English fan got stabbed to death as well.
The return game in Wembley was pure evil. There were literally mobs of English hooligans descending on Kilburn and Crickelwood and hundreds of Irish builders and the local London Irish population fighting with them. The pub we were drinking in was attacked. I ended up a few years ago talking to what I though was a pretty decent fella from Bristol at a bar in Spain who then proceeded to tell me that in all his years supporting Bristol Rovers and England, there was nothing that compared to him having it out with the Irish in Kilburn - he reckoned it was the best fighting he has ever seen, as the Irish were well up for it and would never run. He seemed to think I'd be delighted, but I finished my beer pretty quickly.
It's all very pathetic. Could it happen again? Persoanlly, I can't see the trouble coming from the English, unless they somehow get in through the North - the British police will be monitoring their hooligans very closely in the run up to the game. Their support back then was probably 60-70% football hooligan if not higher, whereas now the English fans have a well deserved reputation for good support. Unfortunately, I could see an element of Irish who will look to fight with the English fans. This element is very different to our usual support.
IDK where you are getting that idea Bungle.
The Irish fans are very passive. Look how well behaved they were at the home game with Northern Ireland.
TBH I wouldn't mind if we had more Ivan Bogdanov's in our home support to try and create a better atmosphere.
There will be lots of non-football fans around the place who would jump at the chance to fight with the English. It's more a societal problem that impacts on football. Once, the English bring a very small number of trouble seeking knobheads which I expect they will, then I don't see it being an issue in the city. In 90' and 95', there was mobs of English hooligans running amok. The English police won't allow that to happen this time. Having said that, this isn't Georgia at home, there is always the risk there could be trouble when Ireland play England.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-31100778.html
English newspaper says Irish team have "talented players and knackers".
Ridiculously alarmist headline from the Irish Independent's online team after some anti-IRA chanting is heard from an unknown number of England supporters at the Italy-England game: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-31111250.html
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Originally Posted by Irish Independent
Knacker means that something over the hill, old work horse or useless players. It did raise an eyebrow when I read it on the Telegraph website. It doesn't mean travellers.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Roy Hodgson pleads with England fans to cease IRA related chants.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-31113758.html
But what would he know? He's only the England manager and in the stadiums when the chants are being heard. Stop overreacting Roy.
i haven't much interest in this fixture but i suppose it could be good for us to play in a higher than usual profile match ahead of the scottish game against opponents of a similar background.
scotland don't appear to have a friendly lined up as yet.
Anti-IRA chants are not illegal, says English football supporters’ organisation
http://www.the42.ie/ira-chants-engli...27803-Apr2015/
On Tuesday, the majority of those supporting Roy Hodgson’s side were heard partaking in anti-IRA songs during a friendly with Italy in Turin. Afterwards, the England manager said:
“I love the fact that our fans come [and support in numbers] but there’s no way I can justify or be glad about any political chants of that nature. We can only hope we can put that right before we go to Ireland.’’