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10/05/2014, 12:41 PM
Real ale Madrid

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Didn't hear it inside the ground. Was on Emmet Road though. Group of 15 or so young lads. Lasted for about 30 seconds or so

That's disgusting and a bit depressing.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Patently not true, from having seen Cork in the Bowl. Ten men behind the ball for most of it; didn't even pretend to play football in the second half.

Down to ten men for the most of that and being 1 up, then that can hardly be used as a barometer of how we normally play.
10/05/2014, 12:44 PM
pineapple stu

Bohs were down to ten men for the same length last night, and created far more than Cork did.

I agree that it shouldn't be a normal measure, but when a fairly poor Bohs side play more ball than Cork under the same circumstances, then I think it's fair to use the example to challenge the OP.
10/05/2014, 12:57 PM
CityRebel

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Bohs were down to ten men for the same length last night, and created far more than Cork did.

I agree that it shouldn't be a normal measure, but when a fairly poor Bohs side play more ball than Cork under the same circumstances, then I think it's fair to use the example to challenge the OP.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Against the side with the worst defensive record in the league, ye could at least have risked one man up.

So you'll forgive me laughing at your comments that Cork try to play football.

Sorry, but from what I've seen of Cork, I'll agree with the Pat's fans on this one.

And as for dismissing racist chanting like you have...

We were 1-0 up away from home before we had to play with 10 men for over an hour, in a ground where we had dropped points in recent years. Two different games entirely.

I don't condone racism and I apologise if I upset any Dubs or the PC brigade.
10/05/2014, 12:59 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by CityRebel

We were 1-0 up away from home before we had to play with 10 men for over an hour, in a ground where we had dropped points in recent years. Two different games entirely.

See point above. If Bohs could play a bit of ball against us with ten men, surely the mighty Cork should be able to?

I absolutely acknowledge that Cork had a gameplan, playing on one of our weaknesses (inability to open up packed defences), but it kind of flies in the face of your idea that ye play nice, attacking football.

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Originally Posted by CityRebel

I don't condone racism and I apologise if I upset any Dubs or the PC brigade.

Wow. You really don't get it, do you?
10/05/2014, 1:00 PM
El-Pietro

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Bohs were down to ten men for the same length last night, and created far more than Cork did.

I agree that it shouldn't be a normal measure, but when a fairly poor Bohs side play more ball than Cork under the same circumstances, then I think it's fair to use the example to challenge the OP.

bohs were at home. big difference. bohs werent winning. big difference.

we havent played well in a few weeks though now.
10/05/2014, 1:02 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by El-Pietro

bohs were at home. big difference. bohs werent winning. big difference.

Bohs are muck. Cork are being put across as a great team. Negates the differences.

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Originally Posted by El-Pietro

we havent played well in a few weeks though now.

That's fair enough.
10/05/2014, 1:04 PM
CityRebel

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

See point above. If Bohs could play a bit of ball against us with ten men, surely the mighty Cork should be able to?

I absolutely acknowledge that Cork had a gameplan, playing on one of our weaknesses (inability to open up packed defences), but it kind of flies in the face of your idea that ye play nice, attacking football.

Wow. You really don't get it, do you?

No, it doesn't really. We were 1-0 up away from home in a ground where we'd dropped points in recent years, before going down to 10 men, and still created some chances while restricting the opposition. That sort of situation doesn't really call for all out attacking football. Bohs were at home, it was 0-0.
10/05/2014, 1:12 PM
pineapple stu

Still not a single sign in that entire match that Cork were anything other than a rather pedestrian team.

Still not apologising for defending the racism? Apologising for others getting offended isn't the same thing, you know that?
10/05/2014, 1:17 PM
CityRebel

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Still not a single sign in that entire match that Cork were anything other than a rather pedestrian team.

Still not apologising for defending the racism? Apologising for others getting offended isn't the same thing, you know that?

It's beyond me that you don't understand why a team 1-0 up away from home with ten men for over an hour would not go out an attack as if they had eleven.

Defending racism? I said that I don't condone racism.
10/05/2014, 1:20 PM
pineapple stu

You dismissed those criticising the chants as PC, or Dubs getting easily offended.

You absolutely do condone racism going by those comments. It's others' fault for getting offended easily.

It never even occurred to you that Asians might be offended by the comments too. Quite a blinkered view overall there.
10/05/2014, 1:31 PM
Nesta99

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Originally Posted by CityRebel

I don't condone racism and I apologise if I upset any Dubs or the PC brigade.

Why am I not stunned by your level of ignorance?
10/05/2014, 1:33 PM
NeverFeltBetter

Don't feed the trolls.
10/05/2014, 1:34 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

Don't feed the trolls.

Touch�.

I'd talk about the Bohs v UCD game, but I think Dalymountrower covered literally everything of interest that happened in about 12 words, so...
10/05/2014, 1:35 PM
CityRebel

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

You dismissed those criticising the chants as PC, or Dubs getting easily offended.

You absolutely do condone racism going by those comments. It's others' fault for getting offended easily.

It never even occurred to you that Asians might be offended by the comments too. Quite a blinkered view overall there.

I have repeatedly stated that I do not condone racism. How dare you suggest that I "absolutely do condone racism", that is a slight on my character.
10/05/2014, 1:40 PM
legendz

The Premier seems split in 3 mini leagues right now - the top 4, 5th to 11th and Athlone. I'm surprised to see Sligo a bit adrift of the top 4. I know they had a good win in Limerick recently. Pat's leading the way, fair play. Rovers back in the mix. Kenny pushing Dundalk in the right direction once more. Cork back near the top for the first time since their resurrection. Dundalk, Cork and Pat's are Limerick's next three games, all at home. I'll have to make my way off to Thomond Park to see how Limerick and 3 of the top 4 are shaping up.
10/05/2014, 1:40 PM
PartySaint

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Originally Posted by CityRebel

I have repeatedly stated that I do not condone racism. How dare you suggest that I "absolutely do condone racism", that is a slight on my character.

Well the neutrals have said you're racist so I automatically agree with them without having any proof for myself...
10/05/2014, 1:44 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by CityRebel

How dare you suggest that I "absolutely do condone racism", that is a slight on my character.

I suggest it because you said -

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Originally Posted by CityRebel

I apologise if I upset any Dubs or the PC brigade.

Which shows you don't even understand why the comments are offensive.

Fairly simple really.

Gerry Adams can say he condones violence. But it's actions that count, not words.
10/05/2014, 2:01 PM
patsdad

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Originally Posted by legendz

The Premier seems split in 3 mini leagues right now - the top 4, 5th to 11th and Athlone. I'm surprised to see Sligo a bit adrift of the top 4. I know they had a good win in Limerick recently. Pat's leading the way, fair play. Rovers back in the mix. Kenny pushing Dundalk in the right direction once more. Cork back near the top for the first time since their resurrection. Dundalk, Cork and Pat's are Limerick's next three games, all at home. I'll have to make my way off to Thomond Park to see how Limerick and 3 of the top 4 are shaping up.

The first mini-league is the top 5. Sligo may be a few points back but they have got their form back and they have the players to sustain a good run.

The three strongest squads are Pats, Dundalk and Sligo and they're also the teams playing the best football. Sligo are probably outsiders because of the points dropped but they'll chase Pats and Dundalk.

On what I saw last night, Cork are not top 3 material. Shamrock Rovers have some very good players but they don't have strength in depth in key positions. They'll battle with Cork for 4th spot.

After that 5, there's a big gap in quality and strength in depth. Most of the others are capable of the odd win against one of the top teams, but they won't do it consistently.
10/05/2014, 2:04 PM
CityRebel

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I suggest it because you said -

Which shows you don't even understand why the comments are offensive.

Fairly simple really.

Gerry Adams can say he condones violence. But it's actions that count, not words.

Come off the stage.
10/05/2014, 2:06 PM
Nesta99

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Originally Posted by CityRebel

I don't condone racism and I apologise if I upset any Dubs or the PC brigade.

Ok you have apologised to Dubs and the PC brigade - now how about the Pakistani community, or is this ommission indicitave of your racist tendencies?
10/05/2014, 2:15 PM
wonder88

Seems a bit of a backlash against Cork from the Dublin soccer community, this is probably better than the patronising stuff that was going on at the start of the season toward them from the same quarter; how great Cork were to get big crowds out to a league of Ireland game etc. This of course was good for the game here as the top players could express their skills better down there rather than at an empty Richmond Park and Belfield. However if it looks like Cork could challenge for the title things seem to change.

Also I am glad that all UCD fans are well-behaved and have proper middle class manner when they go to a league of Ireland game.
ps Saw something on twitter that suggests that there was armed guards down at the Waterford v Shels game, this can't be true?
10/05/2014, 2:16 PM
CityRebel

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Originally Posted by Nesta99

Ok you have apologised to Dubs and the PC brigade - now how about the Pakistani community, or is this ommission indicitave of your racist tendencies?

If my comments on here upset any Pakistani people, I am sorry. I have great respect for them and would much rather be one of them than a Dub.
10/05/2014, 2:47 PM
El-Pietro

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Originally Posted by patsdad

The first mini-league is the top 5. Sligo may be a few points back but they have got their form back and they have the players to sustain a good run.

The three strongest squads are Pats, Dundalk and Sligo and they're also the teams playing the best football. Sligo are probably outsiders because of the points dropped but they'll chase Pats and Dundalk.

On what I saw last night, Cork are not top 3 material. Shamrock Rovers have some very good players but they don't have strength in depth in key positions. They'll battle with Cork for 4th spot.

After that 5, there's a big gap in quality and strength in depth. Most of the others are capable of the odd win against one of the top teams, but they won't do it consistently.

id agree with all of that
10/05/2014, 2:53 PM
Longfordian

Town v Wexford is off, waterlogged pitch. Must have been a lot of rain last night it normally holds up well these days.
10/05/2014, 4:10 PM
outspoken

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Originally Posted by Longfordian

Town v Wexford is off, waterlogged pitch. Must have been a lot of rain last night it normally holds up well these days.

Raining very very heavy today and more forecasted tonight so ref did right and made early call.
10/05/2014, 4:21 PM
desaintsno.12

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Originally Posted by wonder88

Seems a bit of a backlash against Cork from the Dublin soccer community, this is probably better than the patronising stuff that was going on at the start of the season toward them from the same quarter; how great Cork were to get big crowds out to a league of Ireland game etc. This of course was good for the game here as the top players could express their skills better down there rather than at an empty Richmond Park and Belfield. However if it looks like Cork could challenge for the title things seem to change.

?

Cork will not be anywhere near challenging
10/05/2014, 4:43 PM
Dalymountrower

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Originally Posted by CityRebel

If my comments on here upset any Pakistani people, I am sorry. I have great respect for them and would much rather be one of them than a Dub.

Suffering Jaysus.Thought that casual racism went out with the days when Cork GAA fans carried the confederacy flag to matches.
10/05/2014, 6:42 PM
patrickccfc

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Originally Posted by desaintsno.12

Cork will not be anywhere near challenging

I agree we will not win the league I never thought we would but some people got a little carried away during the rovers game singing were gona win the league ha bit ridiculous.. had a great start to the season but that's all it is a start and maybe if we had more depth to the squad we could sustain a challenge but with the injuries we have to influential players like rafter and morrisey it was bound to catch up with us.. 2 tough away games in the last 2 weeks have been a bit of a reality check but some winnable games against Derry bray limerick and athlone coming up should see us back on track in the race for a European spot we have to aim for this year. Also not great to hear racist chanting from our fans no place for it
11/05/2014, 2:23 AM
nigel-harps1954

Finn Harps, despite being completely and utterly awful of late, are back up to fourth. Strange really.
11/05/2014, 2:52 AM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Finn Harps, despite being completely and utterly awful of late, are back up to fourth. Strange really.

Bit of a mad table with all the games that have been called off though. You'd imagine whoever grabs second will have a decent chance of beating Limerick.
11/05/2014, 8:47 AM
Fivesilver

Seriously, excusing those kind of chants and then making a series of what you think are clever remarks just makes you look like a total cretin.
11/05/2014, 9:06 AM
ped_ped

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Bit of a mad table with all the games that have been called off though. You'd imagine whoever grabs second will have a decent chance of beating Limerick.

A little premature to be writing us off just yet (although big changes are needed).
11/05/2014, 9:49 AM
Nah Nah Nah Nah

So you're a racist now City Rebel

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cDg07hd0BhQ
11/05/2014, 9:59 AM
CityRebel

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Originally Posted by Fivesilver

Seriously, excusing those kind of chants and then making a series of what you think are clever remarks just makes you look like a total cretin.

I'd rather be a Corkonian than a Dub.
11/05/2014, 11:15 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by CityRebel

I'd rather be a Corkonian than a Dub.

if it's any consolation we'd rather you were a Corkonian than a Dub too
11/05/2014, 12:14 PM
KeepersBall

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Bit of a mad table with all the games that have been called off though. You'd imagine whoever grabs second will have a decent chance of beating Limerick.

Limerick,don't bet on that. As a lifelong Drogheda fan I think we're certs for the relegation places.
In the local paper this week Horgan has slaughtered Gavin Brennan.
He's right to do so,as his two red cards this season,both deserved,have let the team down big time.
However it should have been done privately and left at that.
As a new manager he needs the dressing room behind him,and this won't help him achieve that.
We might just about win a relegation play off it I wouldn't bet on that right now.
I fear we're on a slippery slope and the brakes are not working.
11/05/2014, 1:00 PM
nigel-harps1954

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Bit of a mad table with all the games that have been called off though. You'd imagine whoever grabs second will have a decent chance of beating Limerick.

you've obviously no idea just how bad the First Division is this season.

Besides, Harps are a million miles away from a playoff as it is.
11/05/2014, 6:44 PM
WoodquayBoy

1-1 in Tallaght this afternoon, Sean O'Connor with the opener for Shams B, then Galway had Stephen Walsh sent off, apparently for an elbow on O'Connor 2 mins later. Jake Keegan equalised early in second half.
11/05/2014, 6:57 PM
Nah Nah Nah Nah

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Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

1-1 in Tallaght this afternoon, Sean O'Connor with the opener for Shams B, then Galway had Stephen Walsh sent off, apparently for an elbow on O'Connor 2 mins later. Jake Keegan equalised early in second half.

Was the pitch ok?
11/05/2014, 7:15 PM
Charlie Darwin

O'Connor was playing for the Bs? Madness Ted.

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