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20 is a bit high at this day in age, 15 would be more than adequate. I appreciate ye want to increase the budget but that seems over-priced for a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Increasing prices isn't a big selling point for fans, expectations are going to be far higher from now on. No disrespect, but 20 to watch UCD & Bray isn't very appealing. You'll get the regulars but it'd be hard to attract the floating fans
I agree. 20 is too high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acer
The season ticket prices for the stand are only going up by 5% to 200 but expecting a casual fan to pay 20 to see a LOI game is too much.
What a balls up!
Season ticket general stand at €200 is great value.
€15 into ground, just ok
€20 into stand. Bad move.
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Originally Posted by Ezeikial
The point is very straightforward - it's the cost of the contract that impacts on the clubs budget, not whether it is 40 / 44 / 52 weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by Acer
While it makes little, if any difference to club, it can be significant to the player involved. In most cases the player would be better off drawing social welfare for 12 weeks and take up a 40 week contract. That said I know of some specific cases where the lower amount over the longer period was the player's preferred optionQuote:
Originally Posted by Acer
Of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Exactly, that's my point. If Richie Towell (example) was offered 650 pw for 40 weeks, than it's highly unlikely that he'd opt for the 500 pw over 52 weeks. The 52 week wage would have to result in a much higher total to justify him not taking the amount over 40 weeks and, as you point out, claim the social welfare for the remaining 12 weeks. That's why changing to 52 week contracts impact so heavily on a club's budget because it obviously results in an increase in wages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
You are making the dangerous assumption that all players are sensible and logical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acer
I'd imagine it makes a difference to the clubs too, as they'd be paying social insurance for 52 weeks rather than 40. It wouldn't be a huge amount of money in the grand scheme, but the margins are small in this league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
€20 is very steep. €15 should be the very most even that is a bit steep if an adult is bringing 2 or 3 kids to the game.
It will be very hard to attract new fans to the club if they are paying €20.
Harps increased price an adult terrace ticket from €10 - €15 a few years back and I saw many people turn and walk away when asked for €15
Awful form from Dundalk to increase the prices so highly. Terrible prices. Can't imagine many neutrals wanting to pay 20 quid into a League of Ireland game. You'll get into many English Premier League grounds much cheaper.
Agreed, €20 is just a non-runner for most clubs. You would have to question the value, and the problem is .... undecided fans wont tell you when they make their mind up, they just wont be there. And its too late at that stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
I agree that 20 for the stand is too much but I'd love to know what English premier league ground you can get in to for less than 20.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Although I think that the €20 Adult Stand price may be counter productive, it is worth remembering that €15 is the standard ground admission price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neish
An adult bringing 3 kids under 12 will either get free admission for the kids (if they are Junior Supporter Club Members) or will pay €5 each for them into the ground. Total cost for Family Group of 4 that you mentioned- either €15 to €30. (I pay €22 for 1 adult and 1 child in most grounds as a visiting fan)
On-pitch success is the no 1 attraction of new fans (although price is obviously an important factor)Quote:
Originally Posted by Neish
20 euro is madness. Even 15euro without access to the stand is high. Surely 15 euro is pricey enough to get into a stand in the LOI?
I think 15 euro is a bit high for us to go to, though I understand the reasoning, and that gains you entry into whichever stand you'd like.
According to this from early this year: Newcastle at 15, while Wigan's cheapest ticket was 20. Edit: just realised those figures are obviously £ not €. So Newcastle is actually at ~€18 and Wigan at ~€24.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
On the other hand you could get into any Bundesliga ground for less than €15. And most from Serie A.
The biggest reason clubs don't offer many 52 weeks contracts is cash flow. Most clubs live week to week and, more specifically, game to game. With little income between November and March, they don't want to *have* to pay wages in that same time frame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acer
We all know it's not ideal and shows poor planning etc etc but it is what it is
I dont think it shows poor planning. I think it shows how poorly supported and thus financially succesful the league is. Clubs simply cannot afford to pay players when they cannot generate income themselves. The only way around it is for all players and staff to accept a lesser equivalent weekly salary and spread it over 52 weeks. But the problem is that because clubs have zero cash, they cannot afford to sign a contract for longer than 12 months because next year the budget might be massively slashed again and they cannot slash the salary of a player on a 2 year contract going into the second year. Hence, why would they sign a player for 52 weeks when after 40 weeks he wont be playing or providing a service to the club.
Very different scenario if you have 10,000 coming to games every week.
The prices announced by Dundalk can be dressed up as much as they like, the prices for the ST's in general are good value, most agree on that.
€20 into the stand is MADNESS.
I just hope the club will listen to fans on this.
Sligo season ticket prices. Are they gearing up for 20 euro tickets too?
https://scontent-b-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/...53916048_n.jpg
Same prices as last season I'm pretty sure (certainly the aduly one is) except for the Gold ticket, which wasn't there last season, to enable people to have their own seat in the ground
Derry City's season tickets for 2014 are the same as last year (still inclusive of archaic discrimination against men in their early sixties).
Adult Stand = £180/215
Concession Stand = £125/150 ( Women > 60, Men > 65, & Students with card )
Adult Stand + 1 Child U12 = £220/265
Adult Stand + 2 Child U12 = £255/305
Adult Stand + 3 Child U12 = £270/325
Adult Terrace = £155/185
Concession Terrace = £115/140
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Going by last year's attendance figures, I'd say our budget will be reduced a bit this season.
Can get to see Fc Basel for about 20 Euros at home, tkt can be used for tram around the city, and a decent seat to view the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
20 euros is a joke for the LOI imho
Bray season tickets remain the same, 99 adults , oap 49, child 49
€20 is way too high for LOI. You might get away with charging that for European games but certainly not LOI league matches.
We charge €10 for Terrace and €15 for stand and you have people complaining.
pricing is always a difficult issue in LOI. attending a match is a 'luxury' item for most fans ( as opposed to a necessity ) and is therefore very price responsive. With so many clubs living hand to mouth changing it can literally make or break a club.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Given the ongoing recession I believe all clubs ( with the exception of St Pats maybe ) should be looking at decreased budgets for next season unless they have discovered new income streams. Contracts once signed can be difficult to get out of so clubs must budget with a healthy dose of realism and not some hopeful dreams of increased crowds.
Frankly, Drogs cup success should have boosted their crowds (bandwagoners) . If it actually indirectly led to smaller crowds what basis would there be for believing a less successful cup season would lead to increased crowds ?
Prize money in the LOI is so low as to be almost worthless in a budgeting context ( Prem division prize money for 4th place less than League registration fee ).
The new Athlone Town ticketing system allows supporters to purchase their match tickets at entry to the venue in advance of home games.
Adult prices are €15, students and OAPs are €10 while kids are €5.
Athlone Town season tickets are available for €200 and cover entry to all league matches, students and OAPs are €120 while kids are €60. All season tickets ordered before Christmas get a gift of a free jersey before the 1st game of the season. *** Family Tickets available on request for more information email info@athlonetownfc.ie
To order 2014 Season Tickets simply Click Here
Match tickets will be available for sale online or from the box office outside the ground an hour before kick off.
Heard our budget is clipped back to 1 million for the year was 1.2m.
http://www.troll.me/images/futurama-...or-serious.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by dublinred
But when you bring kids to a game there are usually other expenses, food, sweets, drinks, merchandise. Then if you have this expense every 2nd week it fairly mounts up. I agree quality football is the best way to attract fans but you have to get then in the door first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Admission in Finn Park for 2013 were
Adult Terrace: €10
O.A.P. Terrace €8
Student Terrace €5
U-12 €3(€1 Only when accompanied by full paying adult) - Quite a few games during the season admitted U-12 free
*€2 extra was paid inside the ground for those who wanted to use the seats
Those type of figures are running costs from top to bottom, not the player budget. I think in 2012 all in to run the club was 1.65 million.Quote:
Originally Posted by dublinred
Holy ****! That's a lot of money!Quote:
Originally Posted by redobit
Even Mick Cooke might be happy with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiniMourinho
It some achievement when you think that the club is run by volunteers.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiniMourinho
I think Shamrock is the highest running cost. Read somewhere before that its well over 2 million. I think they pay a lot of their staff tho, from their committee members to the kitman get paid I believe!
Where on earth does the cash come from for that Sligo budget? Not knocking - just amazed and curious
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Originally Posted by SeanDrog
In 2011 Sligo reported a turnover of 1,291,613 with a profit for the year before tax of 59,962
This may satisfy your curiosity on where the income came from back then:
http://www.independent.ie/regionals/...-27588175.html
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Thanks - very interesting read . The Europa gate receipt of 72k was some figure!
Harps season tickets released on Friday.
Adult seated: €145
Adult terrace: €125
OAP: seated: €125
OAP: terrace: €98
Student: €60
U-12: €10
Limerick released ours last week also
It's going to be Thomond park for the duration of the season with a premium ticket added.
Area Adult Student OAP u12s
Stand 200 130 110 65
Terrace 135 130 110 65
Thomond Suite 325 260 240 130
Family packages also available www.limerickfc.ie
20% increase on entrance to the terrace this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
Still a very good deal though. Slightly odd that students pay the same on terrace and stand.