What joke was that ??Quote:
Originally Posted by eoinh
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What joke was that ??Quote:
Originally Posted by eoinh
Apparently he likened the professionalism of the Northern Irish players to that of gay strippers.
I'm amazed the Gay Strippers union hasn't condemned this publicly :D
I am trying so see where this could have been taken out of context but it is proving very hard. What is gods name is the man doing ??? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Student
Also ... Sentanta Cup .... is it confirmed yet or not ?!?!! Apparently Norn Iron clubs are not signing on the dotted line just yet so to speak. :eek:
And another incident I've seen at the cross too, a Cork fan spitting at a St. Pat's player.Quote:
Originally Posted by patsh
That's two incidents mentioned so far since your post ( NY Hoop's included ). Want to change your mind on this one?
1. Read my post, I said "Manager", and also said that we have our fair share of little scumbags.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelsman
2. It's utterly laugable that anyone who "follows" $hels can make any comment at all about another club. Your club secretary/owner/saviour/whatever title you want, regularly acts the lout, uses physical intimidation and bullying, as does your little scumbag manager and the thugs that pass for some of your players.
Anytime I've been to Tolka Park, there has been an incident with all or some of those mentioned above, as well as the hooligans that seem to have free run of the ground, unhindered by your joke of a security set-up.
3. Want to keep your mouth shut, after you take your foot out of it?
I'm certainly not going to deny that we have scumbags among our support Shelsman, I don't think any of us would. The evidence is there in another thread here where Exile raised the question of underage drunks in the shed-end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelsman
Every club has their problems, Shels own have been discussed on here after our last game in Tolka, I don't think any group of supporters (opur own included) can take the moral high ground on this argument.
When it comes down to it though
If fans are abusive and aggressive, Stewards have the right to chuck them out.
If players/ club staff are abusive and agressive, the FAI should ban them.
It's really that simple, that's you're level playing field right there.
IMO, here's how it plays out.
Last season we gave Ollie Cahill dogs abuse against Shels and he scored into the shed. He gave us the finger. My thoughts after were 'why not'. If we dish it out, we have to take it too.
I agree with all of your post tiktok, but while some stewards do their job, the FAI or eL could NEVER be accused of that.....:rolleyes:
i blame the scum bag element that is prevalent in some form r another in dublin clubs. a strict door policy should be followed
1 No anto's, tommo's, steveo's or any name ending in o.
2 No burbary once the pinacle of fashion amongst horsey people it has now become the uniform of the violent element of football followers
3 No celtic jerseys ( especially with writing across the back such as "SANDS 32" what has bobby sands or celtic got to do with eircom league football?
4 No aul fellas with anchor tatoos on their fore arms
5 No moustaches
please feel free to add to this list if u have anything constructive to say
£Leon€, while I feel your post is a little stereo-typical, I have to agree with the sentiments expressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by $Leon$
the subject matter is not up for debate the only way to stop the el from becoming like the premier league is to attract a better class of follower. all i'm asking for is help to draw up these rules. any suggestions???????
Was that before or after some bright spark from Rovers supporters threw the stones into the St. Annes end seating where I and many other parents were sitting with our children?Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
It is often said in an argument that so-and-so doesn't get it, when really what the person means is that they do get it, but they are too obstinate to admit it. In your case, I am starting to wonder.
Oh how I laughed :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Colm
Laugh all you like but we're second in the league and have a great chance of winning the bloody thing. :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maribor
You certainly have a chance, arguable whether you have a GREAT chance. But surely thats the least that can be expected from a club as massive as Cork City?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colm
I notice how you left out what I said after that. Try reading ALL of what I said and if you're too lazy I'll say it again. ALL clubs with a following have a few loons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fair_play_boy
Speaking of stones we were showered with them exiting turners cross in 92 and 97. I could mention my friend getting glassed in the face in the horseshoe.
We can go around and around all day about each others supporters. The bottom line is until there are strict segregation areas in grounds and competent stewards this will go on and on............
KOH
Funny how people seem to have a problem understanding you..... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Not hard to understand really. If you took away your diabolical hatred of Rovers and had something constructive to add but I guess that's too much to ask :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
KOH
Supporting a team like I do that hasn't played in the Premier for a decade now, I have no reason to hate Rovers, or any other club for that matter....lose the persecution complex that ye all seem to have for god's sake, its pitiful.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
It is quite shameful that these 'scenes' keep cropping up at soccer matches, but I would like to make one point: Every week at some GAA county final or other, there are pitch battles it seems between players, supporters, referees and the like, and mostly someone gets done with a hurley or a good few slaps with a fist..yet its all seen to be part and part of the culture of the GAA.Nothing more said, and its all forgotten about down the pub later.
Football hooliganism was 'cool' in the 80's and a few gurriers today seem to want to make it cool again...I don't know if strict segregation is the answer because I feel that then you're paying attention to them, and ultimately thats what they want, but I do agree with NY Hoop :eek: that something needs to be done or else it will continue.
but I do agree with NY Hoop :eek: that something needs to be done or else it will continue.[/QUOTE]
I gotta lie down!!
On the whole GAA thing while you do hear about pitched battles you never hear about crowd trouble i.e. fighting between opposing fans. Am a huge fan of the GAA and believe that as EL fans we cant really slag them off. Look at their facilities. Anyway it's a different culture.............
KOH
the whole culture thing is my point exactly...its all done and dusted, no reprisals, long running hate campaigns, and some of the supporters do get involved in scenes too, but they're not considered as violence or hooliganism.
We could do with taking a leaf out of their book on this one. The problem is that the scum elements that most clubs have do not care about their club, or its players or results. They want to cause trouble, pure and simple and won't be happy till they do. :mad:
Oh they do care but it goes a lot deeper than that. Definitely something not to be discussed here anyway............Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Also some of the GAA officials and players are cops so it'll be glossed over quicker than the EL.............
KOH
In all my years going to GAA matches up and down the country I've never seen trouble with the supporters either. I'm sure isolated incidents happen, but very rarely. The fact is that at a GAA match you can sit next to an opposing fan for a match and have a good laugh. I've done it plenty of times this year in stands and terraces where I was greatly outnumbered and I never felt threatened. The main fights at GAA probably happen on the pitches which are usually sorted out by a quick exchange of blows :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Opps, Just seen your piece about not discussing here and your probably right. End of rant.........Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
ya..keep fella with girls names like leon away from the ELQuote:
Originally Posted by $Leon$
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Originally Posted by NY Hoop
I thought that you were on about the fools that just go along to games for fights and would struggle to name five of the first team kinda fans !?!
Are we talking about the same kind of fans here ???
Basically .... i think that people who go to games with the intention of fighting/breaking something/anti social behaviour are doing untold damage to our game and in no way could be classed as fans. These people take no responsibility for their actions what so ever and they exist because people tolerate their behaviour and to a certain degree the people who excuse this behaviour and these people are part of the problem.
The people making the allowances for these fools are damaging our game and dont have to answer for it !!
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Originally Posted by thecorner
its actually a fellas name. have u not seen the film Leon? one of the best action films ever made. the main character leon played by jean reno is the best action character i personally have ever seen on film, and i've seen alot. go out and rent the film and then come back to me
ok.....right ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by $Leon$
just very girlie :D
Leon Spinks the boxer, anyone?
I'll take him for €5. Ebay really is the place for these kind of transactions though Patsh. I hope that includes post and packaging.Quote:
Originally Posted by patsh
You'd know all about that being a Shamrock Rovers fan,would'nt you? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
For a start, CALM DOWN !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by patsh
For seconds, I was commenting on CCFC and never compared them to Shels. I think I am perfectly entitled to point out problems / bad habits I have seen at other clubs, even if the same problems supposedly exist in the club I support. As for Ollie Byrne, everyone knows he's an eejit, but I'm not so sure it's fair to say that about the manager or players unless you can give us some definite examples.
I'm quite calm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelsman
If you genuinely cannot think of any examples of the thuggery of Oily, Nuttsy and those members of his squad who can be quite honestly described as hatchetmen, then you have been following a different club to the one you profess to follow.
As would you as a sligo fan :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
KOH
players? Try Heary. Excellent player, but a dab hand at intimidating referees even to the point of pushing them around a la jim o'neill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelsman
at the time the girl is just lookin for a place to hide from the men that killed her family. at first she doesn't realise what leon does. when she does find out she sees it as an easy way to get revenge. like gettin a mate to do a nixer for u.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor74