Mexican Wave

if they want to watch the game, go and watch it on the telly.
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We need a decent atmosphere in landsdowne road. Standing defintely improves it.

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Originally Posted by tiktok

People, people, people.

We only have five chants that generate any kind of noise.

Ireland (clap, clap, clap)
C'mon you boys in green
Ole, Ole
Que Sera Sera
Stand up for the boys in Green

...and then there's the mexican wave.

We all know that (Que Sera Sera apart) they're all brutal, but they're all we've got.

I cheered and waved like an idiot last night when the wave was going around, I joined in with every naff chant that was started, because I like to add to the atmosphere, it increases my enjoyment of the game, and I'm too old to be bothered by what those around me (who I'll probably never see again) think of me.

The alternative is to stand, feeling superior, looking down your nose at the idiots and in-breds enjoying themselves. If that's what floats your boat, I'd sooner the idiots had the tickets :rolleyes:

So, not to be rude, put forward an alternative and get it organised or stop complaining.

Last night was the first time in a good while that there was a bit of life around Landsdowne, and for a change I enjoyed myself despite the poor game.

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Thank you. Trawling through all this bollicks is worthwhile when someone occasionally writes a post like that.

found the atmosphere much better last night. reckon we were all still in paris mode a bit!

still think there is too many self-conscious goons at the games! feel embarrassed to sing or something.

One other thing - all these sh*its moaning here seem to have posted the most times on this site!! all over 1,000 posts!!! .... get a life you boring old sh*ites , maybe yous should stand up a bit more often !! sittin on your arses at the computer!!

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Originally Posted by oconghc2

One other thing - all these sh*its moaning here seem to have posted the most times on this site!! all over 1,000 posts!!! .... get a life you boring old sh*ites , maybe yous should stand up a bit more often !! sittin on your arses at the computer!!

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most people ive seen on here with 1000+ posts do stand up at games and also follow the team home and away for every game.

don't doubt it at all

just find it amazing that these lads with fair enthusiasm for the team, can look down at people for wanting to create better atmosphere at game!

thats all

Yer all a shower of maoning b@stards. First ye complain that there's no atmosphere at Lansdowne Road etc etc...yawn...yawn. Then after a night where we saw the best atmosphere in years, yer still complaining. The chants are too 'naff'? Embarrassed to sing them\too up yer own arses to take part in a Mexican wave? Next time out when we play Croatia, do us all a favour and stay the fcuk at home, or even better, pi$$ off and follow rugby instead.

I've been going to Lansdowne since the qualifiers for Italia 90, and as far as I can recall, 'Ole, Ole', 'Que Sera Sera', 'Come on you boys...', etc were all sung back then. Aren't these the 'good old days' that everyone is constantly referring to? If they were good enough back then, why aren't they good enough now? What do ye want, is it to sing 'Thiery Henry, you're havin a laugh' at every game? Few English football chants will take off over here for the simple reason that they are English chants.

And another thing, RE: this attitude towards the West Stand. I have tickets for both the West Stand and the North Terrace for most games. I've sat in both, and believe me, you're not all that you're cracked up to be in the North. In fact, there isn't much of a difference between the atmosphere in the stand & terrace. On wed night, all of the fans in the West joined in and sang their hearts out, so this attitude towards the West stand is another example of the bull$hit talk that goes on here.

tiktok & John83, agree with your views as its the only one with a bit of sense.

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Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

Yer all a shower of maoning b@stards. First ye complain that there's no atmosphere at Lansdowne Road etc etc...yawn...yawn. Then after a night where we saw the best atmosphere in years, yer still complaining. The chants are too 'naff'? Embarrassed to sing them\too up yer own arses to take part in a Mexican wave? Next time out when we play Croatia, do us all a favour and stay the fcuk at home, or even better, pi$$ off and follow rugby instead.

I've been going to Lansdowne since the qualifiers for Italia 90, and as far as I can recall, 'Ole, Ole', 'Que Sera Sera', 'Come on you boys...', etc were all sung back then. Aren't these the 'good old days' that everyone is constantly referring to? If they were good enough back then, why aren't they good enough now? What do ye want, is it to sing 'Thiery Henry, you're havin a laugh' at every game? Few English football chants will take off over here for the simple reason that they are English chants.

And another thing, RE: this attitude towards the West Stand. I have tickets for both the West Stand and the North Terrace for most games. I've sat in both, and believe me, you're not all that you're cracked up to be in the North. In fact, there isn't much of a difference between the atmosphere in the stand & terrace. On wed night, all of the fans in the West joined in and sang their hearts out, so this attitude towards the West stand is another example of the bull$hit talk that goes on here.

tiktok & John83, agree with your views as its the only one with a bit of sense.

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Well said. I've been going to Landsdowne since 1979 and as far as I remember the only two chants that were regularly sung then and for most of the 80's were "Come on you boys" and "Ireland (clap) Ireland (clap) etc". The atmosphere was often alot better then than it is now, although I'll admit that was partly due to the standing terraces. The atmopsphere on Wednesday was the best I've heard in a long time at Landsdowne. Maybe it was partly due to the fact that there were many people in Paris who had never been to an away game before and they realised what the atmosphere can be like if you get off your arse and sing during the game. The important thing is to make yourself heard and what you sing doesn't matter a **** once it's in support of the team and gets the crowd going.

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Originally Posted by one_bounce

simple solution... get yourself a seat in the stands for the next match..nobody will stand in front of you then.. anybody who buys a ticket for the terrace and expects everyone to sit down, not contribute to the atmosphere and clap politely is a disillusioned fool

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My tickets are for the East Upper...and I've continually had the same problem , albeit with a ceretain bunch of Bohs fans who always seem to get the same tickets as me. :mad:

fair enuf..id expect the people to sit in the stands

Its what u get when the prawn sandwhich brigade are out i force with their free tickets

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Originally Posted by one_bounce

simple solution... get yourself a seat in the stands for the next match..nobody will stand in front of you then.. anybody who buys a ticket for the terrace and expects everyone to sit down, not contribute to the atmosphere and clap politely is a disillusioned fool

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Proper order. Fine response one bounce . Agree completely.

Wow, just looking at this thread all the way from the start.

I got a roasting the other day for suggesting we avoid English chants like "yer 'aving a larf" and yet people are knocking Come on You Boys in Green and Stand Up....

How?

Come on You Boys in Green has been the one constant since my first game at Lansdowne in the late-70s. It's our song and always will be.

Ole Ole I'm not so keen on but if it helps re-create the feel good vibe from 1989 then great, long may it last.

Que Sera Sera is corny but great for the same reason - it recaptures the mood of 1988.

There's a certain innocence to a lot of our songs that disassociates ourselves from the English with their far right rants of "English 'till I die" and all their World War 2 theme songs rubbish.

The lack of menace in our songs (and the general demeanour of our support) is something to be commended (Ole, Que Sera, Boys in Green, Stand Up, Walk Alone, The Fields, Ireland, Ireland etc.).

I bloody hate the wave though!

we really need some new songs/chants . :cool:

How about "HEY BABY" ...? that really seems to get people going here... :D

What we need, as a group of dedicated fans, is an official Irish supporters club. The people who are moaning here should get together with the EL fans and form a supporters club. The club should then meet and discuss strategies. Once you're organised, you can then approach Fran Rooney for the FAI's approval and take things a step further from there. I would gladly contribute\put myself forward to be on any founding committee.

A supporters club could work in tandem with Rooney regarding the atmosphere at Lansdowne. For instance, positioning of supporters, ticketing, printing new song sheets etc. Considering that we are going to have a new stadium in 4 years time, all these things are going to be important, and thats where having an official supporters club is important.

So who's going to practise what they preach?

Although I am not a member, I think there is an official supporters club, but they do not have a high profile

What's the "Fans' Section" all about on the new FAI website? Is this a platform to make an opinion?

I think most of our songs are fine. I'd like to hear a few more player specific songs (All You Need is Duff; Kilbane, It's Just Like Watching Zidane or something like that) so when a player does something of note the crowd spontaneously reacts, like at a club game, or like they do with "Keano".

I think the real key about atmosphere at games is once there's something to play for the crowd gets more involved.

The whole of the last campaign had a down tone because of McCarthy & Keane, and the crap start we got. Friendlies are never that atmospheric. Now we're in contention and everyone's excited and nervous the atmosphere has improved.

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Now we're in contention and everyone's excited and nervous the atmosphere has improved.

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Good. That's what we want, after all. :cool:

:D PP

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Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

So who's going to practise what they preach?

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Sure didn't I try this last year,even had a bit in the Herald but no-one could get tickets for the Brazil game and it just faded after that.. :(

I cannot believe some of you lot!
Thank you to those who've done our fans proud and stood up ( ;) ) for those trying to make a bit of atmosphere!
Mexican wave goes round-JOIN IN! Ok fair play if you've got ya kid on your lap, you've got abad back, you're holding a fair few drinks but "it's to early in the game", "it was started by the other people", "I paid for a seat"-sorry but what a total load of CRA!P!!!
Join in, enjoy the game, join in with the chants, the songs, the waves, whatever-it'll sure as anything make the players feel better, give the young kids in the crowd a laugh (loved that wee girl sitting on her daddies shoulders singing Fields on tv)!
2 years ago was at a game (no teams mentioned but some of you will know what i'm on about ;)) and the opposition had been dead quite for the whole game while we had sung our hearts outevery second! Well they finally got a chant going (in fiarness it was their second of the game-first one lasted bout 30 seconds) so what did we do? Joined in! Why? BEcause it was fun, raised a great atmosphere, was friendly and after a minute of it we went back to singing our songs just as loudly!!!
some of your posts can be real old whinges-cheer on YOUR COUNTRY and get a bit of atmosphere going-make Lansdowne games something we can all be proud of! :D :ball:

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Originally Posted by Dublin12

Hi
First post,good site I like it,have been looking for a few weeks.
Anyway,was anyone else p1ssed off last night when the wave started,we were 1-0 up and finding it hard to break them down and then the ole's started followed by a mexican wave :mad:,we were hardly cruising to a comfortable victory at that stage :mad:

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Ole ole or mexican waves should never be sang/happen at ireland games.

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Originally Posted by the 12 th man

who was ringing that bell in the crowd by the way ??. :D

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He's this dude 12th that in the south terrace, he's got a tash and wear's a beret, look's p**sed all the time, he turned up late on wednesday night and announced his arrival by ringing that fceking bell. :eek:

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Originally Posted by Hoops

Ole ole or mexican waves should never be sang/happen at ireland games.

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Once question-why?

Why-not?

Its disgraceful to hear/see all the ireland fans doing it, there not irish songs and they are of no significance to ireland.

Or should i write it as Ingerland fans. There all just plastic paddys. Go to 3 games a year and think there the best fans in the world. Every other week of the year they do be sitting in their 'armchairs' or 'barstools' watching their beloved maure etc..

The Mexican wave has to be the most girly or faggy form of behavior at a soccer game - honestly can you do it without feling a pure twit?

We need a real anthem - when the Scots sing Flower of Scotland it gives me goose bumps - I suppose the the Fields is the best we have. Why not have Christy Moore & U2 blasted over the tannoy?

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Originally Posted by Hoops

Or should i write it as Ingerland fans. There all just plastic paddys. Go to 3 games a year and think there the best fans in the world. Every other week of the year they do be sitting in their 'armchairs' or 'barstools' watching their beloved maure etc..

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dodgy ground there pal, i take exception to that. you are making assumptions which you cant back up.

why should the number of games that someone goes to decide their support for their team / country?? id love to make evey game home and away, but most people have commitments such as work, and money to be mindful of. If you make evey game home and away fair fu*ks to you but dont judge eveyone else by your own high standards.

Im happy to watch ireland play regardless of the opposition, some of the 3 games a year crowd you refer to are taking up the slack of the people who only attend so called glamour ties and qualifyers.

sure the ole ole's and the mexican waves would still be going without the inclusion of ''plastics'' in the crowd.

I personaly havent seen any ingurland fans in the crowd at lansdowne, although i have heard some ''non plastics'' ;) ask if anyone knew the ingurland score at one game and when the highlights were on tv... prehaps you should focus your attentions to them first.

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Originally Posted by 1MickCollins

The Mexican wave has to be the most girly or faggy form of behavior at a soccer game

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My my,there was i thinking this thread was going nowhere when along comes such a staggeringly enlightened, socially acceptable, incisive & well balanced comment.

Jesus Christ Almighty..... What year is this?
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Originally Posted by Jon'o

dodgy ground there pal, i take exception to that. you are making assumptions which you cant back up.

why should the number of games that someone goes to decide their support for their team / country??

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I'm 100% with Jon'O here-having said before I've only seen Ireland once but I've still been to every game I've had the oppurtunity to go to!
Work, age, kids, location, relatives, health-these are all factors and evryone should be made to feel welcome at Lansdowne not just 100% pure Irish, born in Ireland, EL fans who attend every single Ireland game and every single game of their EL club!!
As for 'Plastics' what's your complaint if we're turning up to support Ireland! I hang the tri out ma window for every Ireland game despite all the crap from the locals!
As for Mexican waves being 'girly or faggy' LadyJane summed that one up for us! One of ma biggest achievments to date involves starting a Mexican wave-4 of us getting a crowd of 5000 going :D

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Originally Posted by LadyJane

My my,there was i thinking this thread was going nowhere when along comes such a staggeringly enlightened, socially acceptable, incisive & well balanced comment.

Jesus Christ Almighty..... What year is this?
:mad:

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Sorry I'm not PC, I'm honest. Get real and get post-PC.

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Originally Posted by 1MickCollins

Sorry I'm not PC, I'm honest. Get real and get post-PC.

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Maybe you should have used the word Metrosexual that might keep the PC faggots happy :D

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Originally Posted by Hoops

Its disgraceful to hear/see all the ireland fans doing it, there not irish songs and they are of no significance to ireland.

Or should i write it as Ingerland fans. There all just plastic paddys. Go to 3 games a year and think there the best fans in the world. Every other week of the year they do be sitting in their 'armchairs' or 'barstools' watching their beloved maure etc..

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Whoo, hoo... two plastic bashers on at once, my day is made complete. What the hell does this post mean, do you think that the atmosphere would improve if you removed all plastics from the stadium, I've sat in the blocks with the London RISCC and they happen to be some of the more vocal. You would do well to remember that three games a season for people living in Ingerland involves at least two days off work and money for travel, hotels and drink. In effect every home game is an away match.

Also I can't stand manure.

I actually tend to agree that Ole, Ole and the Mexican wave can be annoying and not really conected with Ireland however until we have something to take their place... at least it produces some form of atmosphere. So don't just whinge about it do something, if you do already fair play to you.

Finally can you please set me a quota of games to go to before I can judge myself to be a fan.

He's talking about Ireland 'fans' whose usual experience of a football match is watching ManU on the telly down the pub wearing their ManU jersey. He didn't say anything about Irish people living in England. :confused:

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Originally Posted by Schumi

He's talking about Ireland 'fans' whose usual experience of a football match is watching ManU on the telly down the pub wearing their ManU jersey. He didn't say anything about Irish people living in England. :confused:

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Just took the reference; 'or should I write it as Ingerland fans. Their all just Plastic paddies'

No offence meant if I've taken this the wrong way, I've a bit of a hair trigger on this subject.

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Originally Posted by Hoops

Why-not?

Its disgraceful to hear/see all the ireland fans doing it, there not irish songs and they are of no significance to ireland.

Or should i write it as Ingerland fans. There all just plastic paddys. Go to 3 games a year and think there the best fans in the world. Every other week of the year they do be sitting in their 'armchairs' or 'barstools' watching their beloved maure etc..

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Did you ever sing this before in your entire footballing supporting life - 'Ole ole ole ole, ole... We're all part of jackies army, we're all off to Italy, and we'll really shake them up when we win the world cup, cos Ireland have the greatest football team'

Remember that ? ? ? 1990, if 'ole ole ole' has no significance to Irish soccer, what planet were you on during our first trip to the world cup? IMO it is one of the memories of Irelands trip to italia 90 that will stay in our minds forever!! Honestly, I'll take your answer as gospel, did you or did you not sing along to that?? If you were in a club and the DJ dropped it, would you sit it out with a pout on your face because 'there not irish songs and they are of no significance to ireland'

That miserable gut-wrencher of a 'song' The Fields of Athenry has no direct affinity to Scotland either, yet it doesn't stop all of those irritating, tedious smarmy Celtic fans singing it.... :p

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Anyone who partakes in a mexican wave (outside of mexicans) is an idiot. Likewise anyone who sings any Olé crap...

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Actually the so called mexican wave was not started by mexican fans at all, it wax started by american college football fans

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Originally Posted by Cowboy

Actually the so called mexican wave was not started by mexican fans at all, it wax started by american college football fans

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I was under the impression it was started by Brazilian fans in the 1970 World cup in Mexico

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

I was under the impression it was started by Brazilian fans in the 1970 World cup in Mexico

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Well a college coach in the states told me this but of course I'm open to correction, I guess we can agree though that it was not the mexicans
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Originally Posted by Cowboy

Well a college coach in the states told me this but of course I'm open to correction, I guess we can agree though that it was not the mexicans
:D

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Don't know who exactly started the wave but I know for definate that it DID start because some muppit spilled a hot cup of coffee(Nescafe I think)on some other fans lap and the poor fella jumped off his seat with his hands in the air and the rest of the stadium followed him. ;) :D

I have an extreme aversion to joining in the mexican wave and I'm not too keen on the Ole Ole song, but if everyone else does them I'm quite happy as sitting in a ground with a sh#te atmosphere is pretty dull.

I won't do it and I'm what some of you people would call a Plastic Paddy, but it takes all sorts to fill a stadium hey ?!

I know plenty of 'Irish' fans who have never been to a f#cking game in their life and they only live up the road from Lansdowne. Good on the boys who travel miles and spend good money on just getting to a home game.