Cup Final, who do ya want to win ?

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Originally Posted by Slash/ED

Which is exactly why I wish our three european spaces that effect co-efficent would goto any three from Shels, Bohs, Cork and Drogs. Unfortunately, one of these two finalists will be in Europe next year and I can't see either of them getting us any points. It may take away from the spectacle of the cup final, but I'd really rather see the cup winners get the inter toto spot and have the UEFA spots goto 2nd and 3rd in the league. That way the winner can play in Europe but wont effect our co-efficent, as our FAI cup winners are generally the least able of our four european qualifyers to go on and do something in Europe.

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I fear you're digging a hole here. What happened if you won the Cup and got the InterToto? Ollie would be off to the High Court!! No you cannot predict the future and if Longford win it I think they would look to improve on this years embarrassment. I have faith in Alan Reynolds doing well as he has played in a winning European side.

Short memories down tolka way. Only a few years ago you got humbled by Akranes home and away.You did great this year but still only won 1 out of 8 games and you didnt progress 4 rounds. If you want to get down to brass tacks you're still way behind us in European results.

Nobody has the right to dictate who should or shouldnt compete in Europe. Unless its dublin ****y! :D

KOH

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Originally Posted by Slash/ED

I don't want to peanlise anyone, I just want to see us getting the best co-efficent points possible, and it seems a shame that runs like Corks, Rovers and Pats have been wasted when they could be playing in the UEFA cup, our co-efficent would nearly be doubled if they were and got similar results.

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But that just assumes that the clubs could and would repeat that in the UEFA Cup. That isn't necessarily the case, and doesn't take into account the stature of the toto in most european leagues. And besides Pats and Rovers aren't/weren't full time anyway, so by your reckoning they wouldn't be capable of getting results in the UEFA.

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Originally Posted by Macy

But that just assumes that the clubs could and would repeat that in the UEFA Cup. That isn't necessarily the case, and doesn't take into account the stature of the toto in most european leagues. And besides Pats and Rovers aren't/weren't full time anyway, so by your reckoning they wouldn't be capable of getting results in the UEFA.

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On your first point, yes that's very true. But the teams in the competition took it seriously, they had to apply to get into the competition, why would they do that if they didn't want to take it seriously? Believe me, Malmo and the Dutch crowd wanted to beat Cork they just couldn't on the day. You're right that there's no gaurentee they'd repeat the erformances in the UEFA cup of course, but even doing half as well would have helped our co-efficent a hell of a lot.

And I never once said you had to be full time to get results in Europe.

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Originally Posted by Slash/ED

True, but the fact is any three from Cork, Bohs, Shels or Drogheda would do alot better in europe

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Getting a bit off topic from who you WANT to win the final, but i wouldnt say that these four teams will be the top four yet, both Bohs and Cork have to come to the RSC before the cup final and with a full blues squad all playing for a place in the final it wont be easy, they could be pipped !!!

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Originally Posted by blutil

Getting a bit off topic from who you WANT to win the final

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Yeah, and for me I think I'll go with Waterford, purley because they haven't won it in so long, but I'm not too bothered either way once it's a good game.

lads, both waterford and longford are in the final because they were unbeaten (to state the obvious)! Yer teams had the opportunity to put them out, some of the teams had the opportunity Twice and with extra time and didnt do it!
Either way one of these teams are going to europe!!
and For Obvious reasons i hope its Longford!!

Not sure who i want to win ( I was actually hoping Drogheda would get through). The one thing i want is a good game. Ill go for Waterford as Longford disgraced the whole country in Europe and we cant have that again.

I've argued on these boards before that our European defeat although not brilliant was not the disgrace some people make it out, laugh all you like about Liechtenstein but remember this international team of which nine squad members play for FC Vaduz lost 2-0 to England recently and 3-0 to Holland, would Rovers do that or Shels or Drogs/Bohs..no..we got caught at a particularly low ebb in our season and were beaten by a team more experienced than ours..fair enough we didn't do any favours for the league but why let the facts get in the way of a good story..

Two seasons ago when they (Vaduz) first started putting real money in, Livingston beat them on away goals with a Vaduz goal disallowed with the last kick of the game in Scotland..They have a budget of €2.4m a year, their secretary told us that, that's twice Bohs or Cork or Drogs budget, internationals all over why should we think they're a soft touch..Our performances were disappointing yes, a disgrace I don't believe so..you didnt see Vaduz so don't assume you know how good they are..Why should we be denied a European spot because some of the fans from other clubs decide "Ye were a disgrace"..No chance we might learn with a bit of experience then, no?..Anyway rant over, just hope we show ye what we can do in Europe next year.

Longford definetely, wouldnt like to see alan reynolds winning he doesnt deserve it

Longford as the brilliant Daragh Sheridan deserves it after all that he has given the club!!!! :D :confused:

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Originally Posted by Terry

Longford as the brilliant Daragh Sheridan deserves it after all that he has given the club!!!! :D :confused:

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We Wish :rolleyes:

Longford, of course ;) ...... sure doesn't Alan Kirby play for them?

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Originally Posted by Terry

Longford as the brilliant Daragh Sheridan deserves it after all that he has given the club!!!! :D :confused:

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Ah Darragh's a good lad, he's picked up a serious injury too so don't be havin a pop at him.

Whats the f*ckin story we ye Cork and Shels lads? A good run each in Europe and all of a sudden yis are best placed to judge who is and isnt up to standard to play in Europe!!!. Talk about swollen heads!!!. All youse are doing is setting yerselves up for big falls - I'm tellin ye now that neither of you will repeat this years performances. I hope that whoever wins the cup this year has a great run in Europe and that both Cork(if they get there) and Shels get thoroughly tanked in Europe!!!

Also with regards, this whole thing of Longford being an "embarassment" last season - something said by a Rovers fan (how a supporter of a team that couldnt even get into Europe last season - and had they, would probably have been a damn side more embarassing) , I agree with some of the Longford comments. They were, if I'm not mistaken, second bottom in the league going into their European matches and just weren't at the races. Vaduz were lucky and got Longford at the right time.

Which ever team gets there, Longford or Waterford, they deserve it.

LTFC and Portugal were disgraced by teams from Lietchenstein, so we can safely assume that neither will ever perform well and win a match again in the competition.

Portugal are in a league competition. Longford Town were in a knock out competition. Different formats.

alright so, but how many knock out competitions are longford left in and how many are cork left in ???

Longford are left in one competition. City are left in no competitions.

Do us Cork people have to tell you lot everything?

fan tan, glad we got that cleared up :))

hard to call, after dessie bakers actions at united park though would have to go for waterford but wouldn'tbe unhappy to see digger win a medal

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Originally Posted by BobtheDrog

after dessie bakers actions at united park

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I missed that !! What happened there lads ??

come on de town!

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Originally Posted by Slash/ED

And I never once said you had to be full time to get results in Europe.

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Okay, maybe I misinterpreted your arguement. So you meant one of the top 4 in the league?

personally, i hope longford win - with stephen o'brien to be man of the match. it would be nice if baker had to miss it through injury though.

anyway about vaduz - where there many of their players playing on saturday when liectenstein drew 2-2 with portugal. if so, longford would no longer seem such a disgrace to as many of you surely!!

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Originally Posted by eoinh

Longford are left in one competition. City are left in no competitions.

Do us Cork people have to tell you lot everything?

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and who has the best chance of being in europe next season, whats the point of a good run in the tayto cup one year if yee can't even qualify the next.........

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Originally Posted by eoinh

Longford are left in one competition. City are left in no competitions.

Do us Cork people have to tell you lot everything?

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Surely you mean Longford have won one knock out competition, are still left in one, and Cork are left in no competitions? :)

Waterford for me.

No time for Longford, the place or the club. :p

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Originally Posted by dortie

Waterford for me.

No time for Longford, the place or the club. :p

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Dortie, you're moron. :)

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Originally Posted by A face

I missed that !! What happened there lads ??

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Baker made certain inappropriate gestures at the drogheda fans after the match and was ushered from the field by the ref.

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Originally Posted by Éanna

come on de town!

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Thanks Éanna :)

I'm surprised that 1 or 2 City fans are saying that they don't mind when surely their biggest rivals are Waterford!

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Originally Posted by Cop on

Sure, come down to the banjo festival & we'll show you a real good time ........

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Not into culchie crap reminds me too much of Ballybofey.

Give it to them WATERFORD.

Totally agree, COME ON THE BLUES!!!

Hope it is a high scoring defeat at that too.

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Originally Posted by Macy

Dortie, you're moron. :)

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And you can't even type properly! :confused: YOU ARE THE MORON!

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Originally Posted by ColinR

it would be nice if baker had to miss it through injury though.

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He might miss it through being dropped unless he bucks up a bit after his last two games.

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Originally Posted by BobtheDrog

Baker made certain inappropriate gestures at the drogheda fans after the match and was ushered from the field by the ref.

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You can take the player out of Dublin but .... :D

id say id be speaking for ALL city fans here by saying


C'MON DE TOWN

I'm not too bothered about the cup final as the cup seems to have turned into a competition for small clubs and thus doesn't affect us too much.
However, I'll say Longford as it would upset me greatly if a bunch of thugs and scumbags like Waterford were to experience any joy or happiness whatsoever.

I also agree entirely about putting the cup winners in the inter-toto, leave the bigger competitions for the bigger clubs who will be better equipped to deal with them and compete successfully in them.

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Originally Posted by Colm

I'm not too bothered about the cup final as the cup seems to have turned into a competition for small clubs and thus doesn't affect us too much.
However, I'll say Longford as it would upset me greatly if a bunch of thugs and scumbags like Waterford were to experience any joy or happiness whatsoever.

I also agree entirely about putting the cup winners in the inter-toto, leave the bigger competitions for the bigger clubs who will be better equipped to deal with them and compete successfully in them.

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wow colm typing with your arse, what a talent :rolleyes: , we are there on merit and you were beatin by a first division team if i am correct. and something for you to dwell on, this time next week we could be the most sucessful team in the country........ 3 trophies to win and we have to of them already and we are trying to get the other one back for another year.....sucess is measured on trophies and yee lot have eh, let me count eh 0, that right, all your talk and an empty trophy cabinet, all dolan's $hit talking and nothing to back it up.....

think about this...BIG CLUBS WIN TROPHIES, wannsbe's just talk about doing it...

end of pointless but yet satisifing rant.

I'll be hoping Longford do it. Though that's nothing to do with waterford.

I just think that Longford would do better in the UEFA next year despite this season's effort. I think they deserve a second shot at it. Anyway, Flancare is one of my favourite away trips (will be again tomorrow night) and anything that contributes to the clubs further success is welcome. :)

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Originally Posted by max power

BIG CLUBS WIN TROPHIES

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Big clubs do well in their league and have a good european run.
Any club can do well in the cup and that's the same in every country.
Honestly Max, who was the last big club to win the FAI cup?

I wish ye the best of luck but I'd take top two in the league and a good euro run over the FAI and league cups anyday.