Why all support english clubs??

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22/09/2004, 2:36 PM
NY Hoop

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Originally Posted by norn_iron_healy

not once did i ever say people from here dont support english clubs. Alot of people do, but i dont!

And as for us wearing green,what exactly do u think is wrong with that.

There is a reason behind if you really want I can go into it.

I'm bored please do!!

KOH
22/09/2004, 4:21 PM
Plastic Paddy

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Originally Posted by green goblin

Ahem.
And if you think that's complicated:-

Being born in Ingerland sure makes a mess of your head.

:D :D :D PP
22/09/2004, 5:22 PM
eoinh

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Originally Posted by davros

Hate to say it,but @ the highest level,club soccer in E*gland & Scotland is vastly superior to that in Ireland......

Oh yes that reminds me. I was away on holiday for two weeks so didnt get all the european results. How much did dunfermline win by against that Icelandic crowd They must have won by a fair old whack as shels only got through on away goals. Shame on shels - what a terrible embarrasement for the whole league. Reading your postings and learning about the scottish league from you they must have won by about 24-Nil. I do hope those Icelandics werent too embarressed going back to their village!
22/09/2004, 6:54 PM
Pat O' Banton

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Originally Posted by NY Hoop

(If we see any tricolours in the stade de france with english clubs written on them they're getting torn down especially that chelsea one).

KOH

Highly unfair, I used to have one with the Arsenal badge in the centre brought everywhere, I am proud to be London Irish thats my upbringing and having that flag was something representitive of me. The Chelsea (much as I dislike the club) is one brought to many Ireland games by people of the same heritage. (another POB rant about second geners :rolleyes: :D )
22/09/2004, 8:16 PM
Bring Back Mick

See ya in the Stade de France then .........

[QUOTE=NY Hoop][QUOTE=Colm55](If we see any tricolours in the stade de france with english clubs written on them they're getting torn down especially that chelsea one).

BLOCK H1 row 26 ..................if you can find it.......... :cool: :cool: :cool:
23/09/2004, 10:16 AM
NY Hoop

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Originally Posted by Pat O' Banton

Highly unfair, I used to have one with the Arsenal badge in the centre brought everywhere, I am proud to be London Irish thats my upbringing and having that flag was something representitive of me. The Chelsea (much as I dislike the club) is one brought to many Ireland games by people of the same heritage. (another POB rant about second geners :rolleyes: :D )

Granted I take your point. But still there is something wrong with english clubs written on tricolours. And bring back mick Block H1 yeah we'll find it. See you then.
23/09/2004, 10:22 AM
tiktok

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Originally Posted by NY Hoop

But still there is something wrong with english clubs written on tricolours.

IMHO, there's something wrong with anything written on the tricolour, but that's probably another argument.
Seriously as a nation we've f*ck all respect for our property, counrtyside and symbols, butI'll pull back before I launch into an all encompassing rant ranging from the rubbish on Patrick street to people dragging the flag on the ground.
23/09/2004, 10:44 AM
Bring Back Mick

look forward to it

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Originally Posted by NY Hoop

Granted I take your point. But still there is something wrong with english clubs written on tricolours. And bring back mick Block H1 yeah we'll find it. See you then.

If you can't accept 2nd/3rd/4th etc generation fans following Ireland and showing their club identities you are missing something. So what gives you the right to tear down tricolours with British clubs written on them, just shows the Ar5ehole you are............................................... ......
have enocountered a few idiots following Ireland over the years but none like you yet ;)
23/09/2004, 11:36 AM
NY Hoop

Sorry there headhunter faux pas on my part forgot to put in the exclamation points at the end there and the KOH.

I still think tricolours defaced with english clubs is wrong. And I'm not the only one. So anybody who disagrees with you is an ar5ehole?! Get over yourself.

Go off and have some Bishops Finger before you keel over. And for the record some of the 2nd/3rd/4th generation fans that I've met are more real fans than the ones born here. But then what do I know? I'm an ar5ehole!!! ;)

KOH
23/09/2004, 1:26 PM
Bring Back Mick

Funny that

I still think tricolours defaced with english clubs is wrong. And I'm not the only one. So anybody who disagrees with you is an ar5ehole?! Get over yourself.

And for the record some of the 2nd/3rd/4th generation fans that I've met are more real fans than the ones born here. But then what do I know? I'm an ar5ehole!!! ;)

KOH[/QUOTE]

never personally met these so called Ireland fans on my travels to Dublin and worldwide following Ireland who disagree with club teams on the tricolour
You have actually met 2ND/3RD/4TH etc GEN Ireland supporters do you ask them 1st if they support an English club before engaging them in conversation
23/09/2004, 1:34 PM
lopez

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Originally Posted by green goblin

Ahem.
And if you think that'scomplicated:-...3). Chesham United :eek:...

Oh my God! :eek: :eek: We've got one of the Clamppetts on this thread! Yeeee-haaaahhh! :D ;)
23/09/2004, 2:55 PM
A face

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Originally Posted by norn_iron_healy

Well I was in cardiff and i didnt see any England flags, so i really dont know what your talking about. Maybe you have mistaken our flag for the english flag

http://www.ourweecountry.btinternet....iffphoto6.html

follow the link and tell me if you see any english flags

Who is the girl on the right ?? ;)
23/09/2004, 3:03 PM
green goblin

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Originally Posted by lopez

Oh my God! :eek: :eek: We've got one of the Clamppetts on this thread! Yeeee-haaaahhh! :D ;)

Cue theme from Deliverance... :)
23/09/2004, 3:05 PM
norn_iron_healy

Cant remember her name but she goes out of one of our players, Smith i think..
23/09/2004, 3:51 PM
NY Hoop

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Originally Posted by Bring Back Mick

I still think tricolours defaced with english clubs is wrong. And I'm not the only one. So anybody who disagrees with you is an ar5ehole?! Get over yourself.

And for the record some of the 2nd/3rd/4th generation fans that I've met are more real fans than the ones born here. But then what do I know? I'm an ar5ehole!!! ;)

KOH

never personally met these so called Ireland fans on my travels to Dublin and worldwide following Ireland who disagree with club teams on the tricolour
You have actually met 2ND/3RD/4TH etc GEN Ireland supporters do you ask them 1st if they support an English club before engaging them in conversation[/QUOTE]

Mmm ok slowly re read my last post. If you cant I said ENGLISH clubs on the tricolour.

And yeah I do. That's what I say instead of hello, hi, or how's it going!! Well of course they support english clubs it's where they live.

Nice to see you cant disagree with someone without calling them names. You'll go a long way. :rolleyes:

KOH
23/09/2004, 5:16 PM
eoinh

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Originally Posted by davros

I did say @ the highest level.......even the H*ns would scrape past the whale-stabbers ;)

Sorry, there was me thinking Dunfermline played in the scottish premier division. :confused:
23/09/2004, 5:55 PM
lopez

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Originally Posted by green goblin

Cue theme from Deliverance... :)

Sorry for the wind-up GG, but I drive tube trains and meet many of Chesham's finest on a too regular basis.

I'm actually from that delightful new town to the east of Chesham, which some people mistake as being the setting for the film 'The Martins' starring Lee Evans and Kathy Burke.
23/09/2004, 6:42 PM
Slash/ED

How can you support a team based on standard? If Man U 'do a Leeds' will the people who support them based on the football they play start supporting Man U? If standard was the issue, Ireland would be flooded with La Liga shirts and Celtic wouldn't even get a mention. It's all about the exposure, there's constant EPL and SPL all over the TV and people start supporting these teams before they know anything else.

Anyway, the fun of being a football fan has **** all to do with standard of play, it's all about the rivalrys and the will to see your own team do well. Standard of play doesn't come into it, you can get exciting matches at any standard and equally so you can get boring matches at any standard too (Just watch the Juve Milan champions league final). I refuse to believe anyone has actively decided to support a team based entirely on the standard of football they play, if they did they'd have to be switching teams every few seasons.
23/09/2004, 9:24 PM
sylvo

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Originally Posted by green goblin

Cue theme from Deliverance... :)

Hey I whistle that as i'm speeding through King's Langley. :eek:
24/09/2004, 8:04 AM
ger121

My sister is a big pool fan and goes to a lot of the games so I go with her, I'm a Bohs fan so she comes to the games with me. I think there is room for both. They don't really clash in my book. EL is a summer league and games are mostly played on a friday and Premier League is mostly Saturday or Sunday. I reckon I've been to more Liverpool games than a lot of Irish people who claim to be pool fans yet I wouldn't dare call myself a Liverpool supporter as I don't go to see them a lot in a year. My point being is that you can do both, just like you can support both GAA and football or Rugby.
24/09/2004, 8:50 AM
lopez

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Originally Posted by davros

Btw,thing eng.club names on tricolours is a good wind-up to the T*n fascist elements @ those clubs......where are you going to stop......Pub names,Davy K*hoe(Now that is offensive!),FFS?!

The only thing offensive about Davy's flag was when he stuck 'and 747 travel' between 'K*hoe' and 'says.'
24/09/2004, 8:55 AM
Pat O' Banton

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Originally Posted by Slash/ED

How can you support a team based on standard? If Man U 'do a Leeds' will the people who support them based on the football they play start supporting Man U? If standard was the issue, Ireland would be flooded with La Liga shirts and Celtic wouldn't even get a mention. It's all about the exposure, there's constant EPL and SPL all over the TV and people start supporting these teams before they know anything else.

Anyway, the fun of being a football fan has **** all to do with standard of play, it's all about the rivalrys and the will to see your own team do well. Standard of play doesn't come into it, you can get exciting matches at any standard and equally so you can get boring matches at any standard too (Just watch the Juve Milan champions league final). I refuse to believe anyone has actively decided to support a team based entirely on the standard of football they play, if they did they'd have to be switching teams every few seasons.

Thank You one of the best posts on this subject.
I started going to Arsenal in 1980, this means that at one point in the early eighties I watched Arsenal with Talbot in midfield and Chapman up front. If anything I was more passionate about them then than I am now with Vieira and Henry in those positions.
Its also about going with your mates, having a laugh and your identity, going new places and seeing new grounds not about the facts and figures about how many accurate passes that Robbie Savage has given, and all that stuff that Sky and crap tabloids bombard us with. Leave that to people who would have looked at you like you were dirt a few years ago when they hated football.
As far as I'm concerned enterenining football is an added and unexpected bonus.
24/09/2004, 10:40 AM
NY Hoop

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Originally Posted by davros

Well,he is a :rolleyes: Ch*lsea fan............ ;)

Btw,thing eng.club names on tricolours is a good wind-up to the T*n fascist elements @ those clubs......where are you going to stop......Pub names,Davy K*hoe(Now that is offensive!),FFS?!

Agree about the fascist elements point. Wonder does he hang his flag at the bridge?!

K*hoe himself is an offense!

Great posts there slash and pat o. We're the real fans but the ole ole brigade will never understand that shouting at a tv screen on sunday...........

KOH
24/09/2004, 3:55 PM
Slash/ED

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Originally Posted by davros

Yes,when was the last time they finished in the top 3;40 yrs.ago under Jock Stein?Hate to say it,even the H*ns would scrape past the EL's best :eek:

They probably would but I think Shels would have given them a game this year if they got them in the UEFA or CL qualifyers. Beyond the top two there's not much difference between the remaining sides and the el sides, imo.
24/09/2004, 10:45 PM
Poor Student

I agree with the sentiments of others here, the main crime is those who knock the eL without trying or without realising that their attitude helps perpetuate its significantly lower quality. It must be said though it is not easy to support an eL club. There is next to no TV coverage (it was even more awful before TV3), scant radio coverage and very poor coverage in the newspapers. I work in a newsagents on Sunday and I went through all of the so called Irish tabloids last Sunday to examine eL coverage. I think there was one column on Shels in the Sunday World and 2 pages in the Star on Sunday with a column by Roddy Collins and nothing else in the other papers. No league tables, fixtures or results. To be fair to Shels their European run actually did force some eL coverage in the tabloids briefly, but this is entirely centred on them. It's a chicken and egg situation. How can we get people to go to games without media coverage and how can we get the media to cover the league without good attendences and quality?

Shelbourne for one brief moment against Deportivo harnessed the potential of the league and managed to get over 20,000 fans to come to a single game involving an Irish club. Imagine how many people would be bothered with the league if every Irish tabloid backpage headline was about the eL? By burying the eL deep away from the back page it sends a message of inferiority out about the league. Our media must shoulder heavily the responsibility for the preference of Irish to choose the English game over our own. We saturate our back pages with columns and columns about the EPL, we dedicate a weekly highlights programme to the EPL on RT� of a far higher quality than our own weekly eL magazine on TV3. Whether it is right or wrong it makes business sense for the media to do so as they have created the sheer interest they cannot turn their backs on. The only possible solution is for our representatives in Europe next week to 'do a Shelbourne' in unison and progress through several rounds in European competition. I am aware Cork did this last year in the Inter Toto but sadly even their exploits were given pretty poor media coverage.

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