If O'Kane does move to Villa, does that mean any potential move for Hoolahan is dead in the water?
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If O'Kane does move to Villa, does that mean any potential move for Hoolahan is dead in the water?
I doubt it. They don't play in the same position.
Who was sneering?Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
A few OWC posters dismissed him on the basis that he was playing with lowly Torquay when he declared, having just signed from Coleraine.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I also distinctly remember the sneers when Daniel Kearns ended up back in Ireland with Dundalk. He went on to get a move to England again, picking up some U21 caps in the process.
Ah, indeed. I suppose that was to be expected. I thought gastric was referring to fellow Ireland fans.
Ah possibly he was!Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/...p?ICID=HP_BN_8
O'Kane overlooked; Howe tips him for future call-up.
Same old Eddie Howe, moaning about his players not getting selected :)
Comes back into the team to put Bournemouth 1-0 up against West Brom.
Any word on what kind of season O'Kane has had this year? Arter has been fairly crucial for Bournemouth so will surely enjoy plenty game-time next season if Bournemouth do manage to get promoted, which is quite likely at present.
The only thing I found about O'Kane is that he had an ankle injury in February: http://www.bournemouth.vitalfootball...e.asp?a=387206
Been injured or not in the squad for most of it. Arter and Surman are/were the midfield partnership for the majority of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
I predict a drop to League One this summer for O'Kane.
Why? .Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
I can feel it in my waters.
Sometimes you have to go backwards to move forwards.
I don't think he would make their squad of 23 in the PL. I think the writing is on the wall for him - even if they remain in the Championship.
Plenty of players who have looked decent in the Championship for a while before regressing and falling off the radar a little bit have had to move down. Guys like Judge, Dicker, Stephen Dawson and Treacy. It's all about the character he shows now.
Squad of 25. And why do you think his current injury is so bad it'll knock him down two leagues when he was playing consistently at the top of the Championship?
Knock him down one league ATM. He's had a couple of injuries this season now, and before that there were question marks over his form. They've pushed on a bit without him and he's got left behind a bit.
It's a gut feeling but not an indictment of his ability. I could be wrong but I'd say he'll replicate Judge and go to a leading League One team, as I'm not sure a Championship team will come in for him if he does leave.
I don't think there's much between low end Championship teams and high end League One teams in terms and guarantees they can offer a player anyway.
Well the scenario we were talking about was promotion. You're pretty openly stating you're guessing based on the fact he's been injured for a few months.
Still think he'll be part of Bournemouth's squad next year whether in the Premiership or not. No reason to think why he won't.
Not just based on the possibility of promotion. Not just based on his injury. He was struggling to make match day squads even when he was fit, and before that, there were question marks over his form.
I certainly hope he would have a future at Bournemouth or another Championship team, but, I think the emphasis at that level is growing even more towards bigger, stronger and more physical players. And I'm not sure if he's good/high profile enough to have a look in at teams/under managers who appreciate a more continental style version of football. He's 5 ft 6 or 5 ft 7 I believe.
That isn't to say he can't hold his own in midfield though. He has played just in front of the defence as well - to mixed reviews.
Before he was injured at the end of January, there was only nine games out of the 35 Bournemouth had played up until that point where he didn't make the matchday squad inQuote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
There was a spell between October and Christmas where O'Kane was struggling to make squads except for cup games, but I was under the impression it was because Howe switched to a 4-4-2 which meant there was one less spot to play for in midfield. He could also have been carrying an injury - I can't remember. Either way, there's no indication he's going to leave Bournemouth, let alone take such a huge risk with his career as dropping to League One.
'From Coleraine to Premier League, Bournemouth's Eunan O'Kane is on rise': http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sp...-31180576.html
That's a nice set-up for the follow-up article: 'From the Premier League to League One: Bournemouth's Eunan O'Kane on the slide.'
Hang on, now as welcome as he is, and he made the call while a lower league player too, so fair play. Is it fair of him to say his opportunity to play for NI was not forthcoming, having played underage for them and having 4 U21 caps at that point ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Belfast Telegraph
Or did something go on in O'Kanes case, which triggered the switch ?
Aye, I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have had a place in the IFA's set-up had he stayed. I suspect the opportunity to play for Ireland arose and he instinctively jumped at the chance. I'd be stunned if he didn't grow up supporting us. Up round Feeny/Claudy/Dungiven isn't exactly NI-supporting territory. They're all mad into Gaelic culture, football, hurling, the Irish language, the whole shebang up round that neck of the woods. When he said religion had nothing to do with it, he was possibly pre-empting possible accusations that his decision was sectarian or rooted in some particular dislike of NI. The word "religion" can mean a lot of things or nothing in the north. Like when Shane Duffy referenced his Catholic background in relation to his decision being a perfectly natural one for him, he might has well have said he was from an Ireland-supporting nationalist background instead of using the word "Catholic" as no more than a socio-cultural indicator. There was probably an element of diplomacy there too for O'Kane in saying he just went with whoever wanted him; takes the weight off his shoulders slightly. Could it possibly be true that the IFA didn't even bother trying to convince him to stick with them? I'd find that hard to believe. It's surprising how little abuse and vitriol he had directed towards him despite playing for the IFA up to under-21 level, especially considering what his former Maiden City team-mate Darron Gibson, who declared for us at 16, had to put up with.
https://scontent-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...f8&oe=55D69711
That's O'Kane to the left of Gibson there in the back row when they played at Maiden City.
Video interview with O'Kane here, talking to Maiden City in Derry earlier today about the season and his career to date: https://www.facebook.com/maidencitys...74966485850927
Has Gibson always looked 24??
Ha, I was thinking the same thing. Actually by the time he broke into the team at 21 he looked about 30.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
O'Kane has always made it clear he switched nationality for career reasons. Whether he's being totally honest is another mattter, but it's surely less likely to draw scrutiny than saying he plain identifies as Irish.
Knocking him down one league would put him in the Championship!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
He was playing early on but seems to have dropped out of favour, don't think that put him
in league one. A drop from a top of the table club could well see him playing further down the Championship.
OK league One is a possibility too, but I guess it depends on his current form, he could get back into the first team
as well if he plays well.
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/spo..._club_Everton/
O'Kane eager to prove point to Everton.
Must be hoping whoever he signs for in League One draws them in the cup.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-31256853.html
O'Kane retains PL and Irish dream after falling completely out of favor; heart-to-heart with Eddie Howe
O'Kane training well prior to the new season. The 98% statistic on those who do not make it back to the top after been let go by premiership academies is very scary!
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...ce-346585.html
It actually looked like he might get a real chance to show what he could do this weekend, but then they go and sign Lee Tomlin < week before the opening game. He might still get a chance to capitalize on Harry Arter's absence - Tomlin, I think, generally plays further forward - but after signing Tomlin & Max Gradel, they aren't looking as lightweight on that part of the pitch.
o'kane gets a few mins for bournemouth who trail 0-1 at home to villa.
O'Kane starts tonight away in Anfield.
Just been watching him, seems to work hard a cover a lot of ground just been subbed bear the end.
The LIverpool goal should have been offside aparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHJ8dPyiI3g
player interfering with play was offside but not the scorer so that is offside under new rules i think
Good shift is right. Liverpool pressed them in the middle so O'Kane often seemed to be playing quite deep on his side of the centre circle but was assured on the ball and Milner and Henderson didn't get much change out of them at all.
First PL appearance too so there's ample opportunity to improve and it's positive that Howe has him back in his plans if he's willing to start him against Liverpool.
Sorry - I may have missed this but what's the story with Harry Arter? Is he injured or out of favour? I noticed he wasn't even on the bench.
He's injured or, to put it in TOWK terms, he's out of favour.