The importance of being Cahill.
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The importance of being Cahill.
Some people pronounce it like 'Kahl,' others will put an emphasis on the 'hill' part. Obviously the convention elsewhere is to say 'Kay-hill.' The pronunciation of your name is often influenced by your environment. I'd trust George Hamilton as the only English-language commentator to correctly pronounce John Carew's name.
chas Michael michaels.
initally I was agreeing with skstu about the name cahill. my ex flatmate is one and I notice when I say it I run the 2 syllables almost as one and it does sound like kahl....but its ka-hill not kay-hill chas Michael michaels.
also osarusan for fear of being wrong abot you saying how x should be pronounced in cantonese was wrong even if you tried to cover your tracks by removing the post and going off topic chas Michael michaels was right its most definitley 'z'...for example bo xilai is bo zilai....incidently a lot of people called bo take the English name 'victor'
It's fine for a commentator to pronounce the name as the player wants it pronounced.
However that practice doesn't apply when it comes to Icelandic names.
So, this McDermott fella...
Some of you may remember there was a lad named Adam Maher playing in the Eredivisie whose name was brought up here as a possible recruit, though it turned out he had Dutch and Moroccan heritage -- apparently Maher is also Dutch name which I assume is pronounced "may-her." Would any of you have a problem with a commentator pronouncing that "may-her" as opposed to the Irish way?
Contrary to my apparent contrariness, I don't actually give a phlegm about how players want to pronounce their names or, really, how commentators want to pronounce names...
I would expect a bit of simple consistency though... I'd like Hamilton to read an article about Martin Cahill out loud and see what he says... The first sign of a Ca-hill as opposed to a Cay-hill and I would probably shake my head in disgust and walk away.
Why would you expect consistency though? If I'm mates with both Martin Cahill and Tim Cahill (hypothetically), I'm not going to stick to one pronunciation for both. I'll call Tim Kay-hill and Martin Ka-hill. It's like calling David Ginola Day-vid Gin-oh-la. It might make sense in your local dialect but in general it is completely illogical to call somebody by anything other than their actual name.
I've known Andreas who pronounce their name Andreea and Andreas who've pronounced their name Andraya. It would be insane to insist on a consistent pronunciation when clearly they are different.
If you hadn't been introduced to them and simply seen their names on a piece of paper, you would have only had one pronunciation though. It's a poor rebuttal.
I would refer, somewhat logically, to the same name in the same way unless it was brought up as an issue. If it was an issue then I would attempt to correct but would invariably slip into default mode from time to time.
I never mentioned anything about the pronunciation being either Mandarin or Cantonese, and you were not specific about it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
What I did do was ask my head of department, who is this woman, Xiao Rui Zhang. She told me.
Are you saying that this woman, a native speaker of Mandarin, doesn't know how to pronounce her own name, but you do?
I deleted my post to keep the thread on-topic (ironic, given the posts since).
No, but you dont know which language she is speaking do you? IS it mandarin or cantonese. So when you say language it means nothing really...
If its work, well I sit right beside 2 chinese, one cantonese and one mandarin. Granted I got it the other way around, if its mandarin - which is generally what we hear on the news etc - its pronounced "Z" and if its cantonese its pronounced like "yi". Take for example Bruce Lee and Jet Li, the anglicised version becomes Lee from Cantonese, but Li from mandarin.
Basically the languages are the same, but the dialect/pronounciation is the difference, and its quite a considerable difference.
holy jaysus, the girl wore a name badge that said donna on it. maybe it was to avoid minefields like this everywhere she went.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
How are you doing Miley?
not bad DinnyQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
departure from Reading confirmed by the club today: http://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/arti...13-708125.aspx
Sacked. Sad to see, but chairmen get panicky around this time of year. He probably suffered, like Nigel Adkins, of achieving too much too soon. Another year in the Championship and they'd have made a much better tilt at staying up.
Fixture run in looks like this:
Utd (a)
Arsenal (a)
Southampton (h)
Liverpool (h)
Norwich (a)
QPR (h)
Fulham (a)
Man City (h)
West Ham (a)
You wouldn't give them a prayer against the 4 in bold, so they're quite simply gonna run out of time quickly. Home match against QPR will be massive and will probably go a long way towards deciding both clubs fate.
Aye, idiocy of the highest order.
But potentially available to step into Trap's shoes...
Yes even more stupid than Wolves sacking Mick around this time last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
I've seen him being quoted on here as being interested in the Ireland job; what are his Irish links?
His parents are Irish. He says he accepted a call-up for England underage squads on the advice of his coaches at Arsenal against his better judgement, which meant he could never play for Ireland under the rules as they stood. He said he'd like to make up for it by representing Ireland as a manager but he doesn't feel he's ready yet.
According to the sports guy on Today FM his mum is from Clare and his dad is from Sligo and he grew up in England supporting Sligo Rovers and he mentioned the whole regretting playing for England and not Ireland thing as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/...tion-to-manage
He isnt ready yet - as he says himself he has to do his time in club football first - and that is far from completed.
He has potential - but we are gonna need someone with a bit more experience to sort out the potential mess Trap could end up leaving us in , if our qualification hopes are over come March 26th
Is he any less experienced than Mick was when he took over? He took over at a similar stage when a huge wedge of experienced players were stepping down and he was challenging for qualification from the outset. You either have it or you don't and by the looks of it McDermott had created a very loyal and tight-knit group of players and was flexible enough to change his tactical approach early in the season when his initial plan wasn't working.
At least he knows who the real Irish Rovers are.
Re: The Mick comment , i cant disagree with you Charlie, but equally taking on such an inexperienced and untested manager is not a route i would like to see the FAI go down again for the national side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
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Originally Posted by geysir
How is he untested though? He's won what is probably in the top 10 leagues in the world. He was handling this season reasonably well too until he was decapitated.Quote:
Originally Posted by back of the net
It's not going to matter is it, in two weeks or so, for the rest of this campaign?
More experience would be good, but if it is an Irish manager, surely it's between him and O'Driscoll.
Assuming either want to work with the clowns at the FAI.
Parted company with Leeds tonight!
On deadline day?!?
Indeed - they may well get what they deserve!
Announcement tonight states he is still manager - but he was not at the game today!
Unbelievable stuff from Leeds!!!
Could not make it, sack one day rehired the next apparently, club is making a laughing stock of itself.
Mind you first win in 8 games so, I guess they get the last laugh!!
Back in charge today, pending a potential takeover...
Back in football as a scout with Arsenal: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...-brian-4381398
Could be good news for Irish players as he's got a track record of scouting over here.
Life goal is to manage Ireland
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...nd-347799.html
Ardee Bhoy and I met him at St George's Park in June, supporting the Irish U21s against England in a training match. Nice guy. Was with his long time mate Pat Dolan who was also very affable.
I really liked him as a manager. Always played nice football. Had mixed success but seemed to be intent on doing things in a right way.
His track record is good in that he gained a promotion with Reading and was unlucky to be sacked. The real blot on his copy book was to drink from the poison chalice that is Leeds United.
Hopefully, when the right job comes up he'll re-establish himself as a good manager and will get a crack at the Ireland job.
Reading through that there seems to be a lot of underlying demons for Brian.
Back at Reading as manager
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35050593
I hope it goes well for him. Its nice to see managers with Irish connections doing well. He should have stayed away from the Mad-house that is Leeds mind !