Shels v Sligo FAI Cup final - Lansdowne Road 6th Nov

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19/10/2011, 3:55 PM
CSFShels

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Originally Posted by El-Pietro

we did, but only after exhausting every avenue to keep the old business alive

as for teams not having a hope of beating Derry, didn't Waterford and Mons run them close?

And we will be going up in second place at worst, Champions if Limerick do us a favour

Seriously hope some of that ridiculous over-confidence is shared by your team.
19/10/2011, 4:04 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by TiocfaidhArmani

Other clubs didn't go into the First Division after basically losing all their players and having to throw together a squad in two weeks taking on anyone that would join us. I think we've had a share amount of bad luck, which is typical Shels, but point taken.

We lost most of our first-team squad after relegation in 2008 and still won the league in 2009, with much smaller budgets than ye and Fingal. So I don't think that argument holds any water at this stage.
19/10/2011, 4:32 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by legendz

outside of the League of Ireland community, Shels and Bohs are held in a high regard.

Only because they've never met them.
19/10/2011, 4:41 PM
sligored

whats this got to do with the fai cup final - take this nonsense to the first division thread
19/10/2011, 5:33 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Schumi

Only because they've never met them.

A first post in 4� months, and it was worth waiting for! :p
19/10/2011, 6:27 PM
BonnieShels

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

We lost most of our first-team squad after relegation in 2008 and still won the league in 2009, with much smaller budgets than ye and Fingal. So I don't think that argument holds any water at this stage.

It does if people like you don't come along with their facts. Sheesh Stu!
19/10/2011, 6:28 PM
BonnieShels

Anyway, it's going to be a great day out. Easily better than when we won the LSC last year!
19/10/2011, 6:46 PM
born2bwild

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

We lost most of our first-team squad after relegation in 2008 and still won the league in 2009, with much smaller budgets than ye and Fingal. So I don't think that argument holds any water at this stage.

Yeah, but you had Ronan Finn.
19/10/2011, 8:48 PM
hoops1

Just watched the first peno and sending off. That sums up refereeing in this country. Laughable.
19/10/2011, 9:12 PM
Dewie101

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Originally Posted by legendz

It's great to see Shels back. They are still a big name in Irish football. Generally in areas like Kerry etc. outside of the League of Ireland community, Shels and Bohs are held in a high regard.

assuming everyone in Tralee only caught wind of the LOI from the 90's on, two small clubs with little or no fanbase both thriving of the downfall of the mighty Drums.
19/10/2011, 10:47 PM
S.E.P.1990

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Originally Posted by Dewie101

assuming everyone in Tralee only caught wind of the LOI from the 90's on, two small clubs with little or no fanbase both thriving of the downfall of the mighty Drums.

Of course we didn't exist 50 years before Drums joined the league or win 5 leagues before they won one.....no did nowt until the 90s....
19/10/2011, 10:58 PM
shellyriver

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Originally Posted by sligored

whats this got to do with the fai cup final - take this nonsense to the first division thread

Move all this guff to a first division whine-off.
20/10/2011, 12:51 AM
El-Pietro

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Originally Posted by shellyriver

Move all this guff to a first division whine-off.

makes a change from the rovers - rovers crap or bohs rovers
20/10/2011, 10:01 AM
Dixie Dean

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Originally Posted by El-Pietro

makes a change from the rovers - rovers crap or bohs rovers

Rovers - shams you mean, :-)
20/10/2011, 1:38 PM
EddieAnnand

I propose we change the name of this thread to "Shels v Sligo FAI Cup final - Lansdowne Road Nov 6th" in solidarity with our fallen insurance industry employees. Probably annoy John Delaney as well so its win-win.
20/10/2011, 1:46 PM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by Dewie101

assuming everyone in Tralee only caught wind of the LOI from the 90's on, two small clubs with little or no fanbase both thriving of the downfall of the mighty Drums.

The fact that both Shels and Bohs predate the "mighty Drums" and have much more tradition pretty much shows you are either ignorant of the game here or on a wind up:confused: .

Your own club (shams) were happy to be a tenant of both "small clubs" on occasion.

* whoops, is that you Bertie ?
20/10/2011, 2:02 PM
S.E.P.1990

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Originally Posted by EddieAnnand

I propose we change the name of this thread to "Shels v Sligo FAI Cup final - Lansdowne Road Nov 6th" in solidarity with our fallen insurance industry employees. Probably annoy John Delaney as well so its win-win.

Agreed +1
20/10/2011, 2:17 PM
shellyriver

The Ballsbridge Bed Pan, was my favourite, in honour of its unique architectural shape!

I always refused to call Lansdowne Road by another name -- such is the fickleness of capitalism, otherwise we might as well stroll down McD Boulevard etc etc.

By the by, does the FAI cup have an official alternate name? ie in honour of the person who donated it or is it commemorate anyone. Or is it simply the cup that existed during the IFA split, with the formation of the Free State league in the early 1920s. Could it become the equivalent of a Lonsdale Belt -- win it three times and its yours, if so, I, along with others in Sligo, would be in favour ;]
20/10/2011, 2:31 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

A first post in 4� months, and it was worth waiting for! :p

I didn't get those little blue medals over there for nothing. ;)
20/10/2011, 4:27 PM
born2bwild

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Originally Posted by Dewie101

assuming everyone in Tralee only caught wind of the LOI from the 90's on, two small clubs with little or no fanbase both thriving of the downfall of the mighty Drums.

According to Daire Whelan in his chapter on the 1970s in "Who Stole Our Game", most of Drums' fanbase never darkened the door of a League of Ireland ground again after they were subsumed by Home Farm.

Odd to hear that Shels and Bohs are 'thriving'.
20/10/2011, 4:38 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by EddieAnnand

I propose we change the name of this thread to "Shels v Sligo FAI Cup final - Lansdowne Road Nov 6th" in solidarity with our fallen insurance industry employees. Probably annoy John Delaney as well so its win-win.

Good call; done!

And in the spirit of correctness, I've corrected the date away from the irritatingly American "Nov 6th"...
20/10/2011, 7:37 PM
dong

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Originally Posted by born2bwild

"Who Stole Our Game"

Gerry Gannon?
20/10/2011, 7:56 PM
born2bwild

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Originally Posted by dong

Gerry Gannon?

Ha Ha. Ironically, in that book (published 2005/6?) Whelan once or twice speculates about whether millionaire investors might pour some cash into the LoI. Be careful what you wish for.
20/10/2011, 8:37 PM
CrowdedHouse

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Good call; done!

Thanks my OH works ..for the time being...for Aviva
21/10/2011, 9:20 AM
Rasputin

Do shels have any kind of tradition where they march to Lansdowne behind a gypos pieball or pull up a caravan or anything of the like?
21/10/2011, 9:35 AM
OneForTheFuture

No. Do Sligo fans? The non-gypo ones like?
21/10/2011, 7:30 PM
shellyriver

When Sligo Rovers won first honours, Intermediate FAI in 1929 -- a year after club was founded -- the club's mascot a black cat, was donned in club colours, and handed over by a Mrs Burnside in the middle of the pitch to the keeper Cougar Callaghan, who promised her no ball would hit the cat or the back of the net, and beating Grangegorman FC they won!! A Sligo Docker, 'Cogie' Callaghan played on Saturday for Rovers and Sunday for Belfast Celtic. This type of touching tradition can never happen again due to Fort Knox security at Lansdowne security, and more is the pity.
21/10/2011, 10:36 PM
northwestexile

If Rovers win do Shels get the Europa League spot or does it go to the 4th placed team in the league?
22/10/2011, 11:37 AM
Fester

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Originally Posted by northwestexile

If Rovers win do Shels get the Europa League spot or does it go to the 4th placed team in the league?

It goes to the 4th placed team which is Pats.
22/10/2011, 11:45 AM
brayfan08

Is it true that Derry cant play in Europe?
22/10/2011, 1:44 PM
refjohn

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Originally Posted by brayfan08

Is it true that Derry cant play in Europe?

Its unclear. Gavin said in paper on Friday the FAI. Would do what they can to get Derry sanctioned for Europe. Apparently there is a meeting on Wednesday in Monaghan between Derry and FAI to discuss Derry and Europe.
22/10/2011, 1:58 PM
A face

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Originally Posted by refjohn

Its unclear. Gavin said in paper on Friday the FAI. Would do what they can to get Derry sanctioned for Europe. Apparently there is a meeting on Wednesday in Monaghan between Derry and FAI to discuss Derry and Europe.

It'll be interesting to see the outcome on this.
22/10/2011, 3:06 PM
Rasputin

http://www.balls.ie/wp-content/uploa...10/delaney.jpg
24/10/2011, 1:01 AM
northwestexile

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Originally Posted by brayfan08

Is it true that Derry cant play in Europe?

Missed this story. What are the details?
24/10/2011, 8:08 AM
refjohn

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Originally Posted by northwestexile

Missed this story. What are the details?

High level - need 3 years of accounts with all bills paid for Europe. Legal entity running Derry only 2 years old. 3 years ago not best for Derry financially so there could be issues. FAI claim things should be ok - guess meeting is to check situation.
24/10/2011, 8:39 AM
Charlie Darwin

Well that can't be right. Sporting Fingal had only existed for 2 years when they entered the Europa League.
24/10/2011, 9:31 AM
Rasputin

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Well that can't be right. Sporting Fingal had only existed for 2 years when they entered the Europa League.

Is it not a relatively new ruling by UEFA under Platini? An attempt to clean up the mess that is the financial state of European football.
24/10/2011, 10:34 AM
Charlie Darwin

The Financial Fair Play initiative? I don't think it applies to this year. Sure look at Chelsea and Manchester City.
24/10/2011, 10:44 AM
MagicMon

Its being 'phased in' as far as I know, so the 3 years rule is probably one of the first things they've brought in.

That's why Abramovich changed his investment into shares rather than a loan (or vice versa, I didn't really understand the technicalities) and why Etihad sponsored the Man City stadium for a way over-the-odds sum, as a vehicle to put the Sheikh's money in (sponsorship is classed as legit income).
24/10/2011, 11:49 AM
pineapple stu

Isn't it more that a club entering administration or an equivalent gets a three-year ban from Europe? Maybe it'd allow for the new Derry City and the old Derry City being the same (or maybe that's where the dispute is coming in)?

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