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No way! That's unbelievable!
I'd be having a quiet word with the gk!
Jayzoose
slovenia always use the garryowen to great effect
seedings confirmed http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro2012/new...euro+play+draw
were in the top 4 thank f^*
Estonia. We will not be able for anyone else. Bosnia, Turkey and Montenegro are all better footballing sides and would pass our dark ages formation off the park. So please, God of football, if your up there, Estonia please.
Actually been looking into it. Montenegro & Turkey are both handy sides, but not unbeatable.
In our case, it's more about which Ireland turns up...
The one that can't string 2 passes together and grinds out results, or the one that can't string 2 passes together and doesn't?
We only have the one gear my friend. Lump it forward and play ugly. It's against everything I love about the beautiful game, but do you know what? I don't care once we qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Usual pessimism is rife in here. And it's understandable.
I don't think it matters who we get in the Playoffs, if we're not capable of beating any of those sides, then we shouldn't be going to Euro 2012. I don't think the players will be particularly intimidated by any of them and that's all that matters.
That was some free.
We drew with Montenegro twice in the last campaign and they have been beaten by Wales & the Swiss this time around. What is so frightening about them?
Get an away goal and draw in Turkey & we'll be fine.
Estonia? If we can't grind out a result against them then we don't deserve a spot in the finals.
Bosnia. Tricky but again I'd prefer them to Portugal & Croatia.
i was sure i read that the seeded team would be at home for the second leg. i am a bit miffed - but not surprised - that this seems to have changed.
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro2012/new...d=1689808.html
who would i like to draw? in order of preference:
estonia
montenegro
turkey
bosnia
We've always been away for the second leg or in a neutral venue in my time: Holland (N) one-off match, Belgium (A) second-leg, Turkey (A) second-leg, Iran (A) and France (A). Thankfully we did the business away to Iran in '01.
Having the second leg at home should be a great boost. Whoever we play, if we're the tie alive for the return-leg, it could be an electric night in the Aviva.
We might, finally, sell it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
would you believe that it was FAI representations after the france play-off that resulted in the change?!!Quote:
Originally Posted by zero
thats what i heard today
Turkey are the ones I want to avoid. Guus Hiddink is a tactical genius and would have us sussed, not that its hard to do that at all. Also the chances of taking anything away from home against them I reckon would be slim.
Of the rest I think it would be tight, but certainly nothing to be frightened of.
I just know we'll draw Turkey, mark my words.
Wow, I hadn't seen or heard about that. what's amazing is the height he put on it. from that distance you'd expect a much lower trajectory. as someone else said it's like a garryowen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
On the play offs, I would give us a 50/50 chance against turkey or Bosnia (there's a good article in the guardian today about how they may struggle to motivate themselves for a playoff after coming so close to first place.)
Montenegro feel like an over rated team, I would rate Armenia ahead of them.
Finally Estonia look like the easy draw and their results against faroes seem weak. would any of the Norn Iron fans like to tear themselves away from the 150 page black hole that us the eligibility thread to give us their views?
If you go to 1:00 in the video you can see the crazy, crazy spin that's on the ball as it descends upon the 'keeper.
Who do you think they want in Estonia, Turkey, Montenegro and Bosnia?
My guess is that all 4 are praying for Ireland.
Terrible cross. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
Trappatoni would have a wet dream if he saw that goal.
Everyone would rather face Estonia then us, they lost 4 games in qualyfing we lost 1 to the team who went on to win the group we also conceeded 7 goals in the process compared to Estonias 14...We also on paper have a better selection of players then they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by French Toasht
People are starting to under-rate Ireland becuase of style of play which is fair enough I suppose but I know for a fact that no side will pull us apart in the play offs so I do't think any side bar estonia would want to face us first...maybe second choice though :p
I think the seeding system has been lost on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bayern Munchies
How so?Quote:
Originally Posted by French Toasht
I hope we don't get Armenia :p
Because I asked who the unseeded teams (Estonia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Turkey) would like to draw from the seeded teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bayern Munchies
And my guess is that they would all prefer Ireland as opposed to Portugal, Croatia and Czech Republic.
When FIFA did the draw for the World Cup play-offs, a separate draw was made for home and away venues. Ireland were the only unseeded team that were drawn to play the second-leg away from home.
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Originally Posted by French Toasht
D'oh ...I'll give you a 5r to delete your posts and for me to edit mine so I don't look such a tool :p
It appears that the same will be done tomorrow: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/...a_ireland.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Everyone seems to want the 2nd leg at home. I'd prefer to play at home first, our system is suited more to away games. Its imperative we don't concede at home though.
As to who we get drawn against Estonia are the probably the weakest team so its the most favourable, but I have a feeling we'll be playing Montenegro which isn't a bad drawn either.
I'm guessing the same. What I'm sure of is that they'll all want to avoid Portugal and Croatia.Quote:
Originally Posted by French Toasht
I'd agree at times but for this one I want a home game. Ireland have drawn the short straw too often with away games for the second leg. It'll be great to see a tie alive coming back to Dublin. Hopefully with a bit of luck their could be an electric night at Lansdowne Road with Ireland going through.Quote:
Originally Posted by JGKyne
I dunno French.Quote:
Originally Posted by French Toasht
Many here are (sometimes understandably) hard on the team but we rarely concede and are almost unbeatable at home vs that sort of opposition which is to say not the tops. From afar it probably offers a different outlook, fans of those other teams are as prone to overreaction as we are-- remember people on here making Pandev sound like a combination of Pele and George Best when this draw first came out? Our players suck, their players are amazing, etc... I don't think many people in Turkey are thinking that the team is a sure thing in Dublin. They dont have a Richard Dunne. (I say that on purpose as a joke knowing ten people will tell me they have the best player ever back there.) (But if said player played for Ireland they would deem him a stupid waste of time.)
They're hard on the team because they don't look at the results. Too busy going through every misplaced pass, every long ball, every possession statistic etc, and drawing their conclusions on that basis rather than see whether we actually won or not. Apparantly Spain scored from a 42-pass move last night. Who cares? We scored from a tap-in off someone's waist, but they all count.
We didn't scrape into the playoffs like other teams have done. We've been consistently top or top two in this group the whole way through. We've scored a fair amount of goals, and conceded relatively few. The team is very hard to beat, with just 1 group phase defeat in 4 years, against teams from every spectrum of the game. We're there on merit, and we've every chance of going through.
Just had a look at Turkey's results through their group and I wouldn't say they're anything to fear if it did happen we draw them. The one result of note was a home victory against Belgium, but other than that they were fairly average, losing even to Azerbaijan. Germany beat them convincingly twice; 3-0 in Germany and 3-1 in Turkey. Still, I'd rather avoid a team with Hiddink in charge. It's also a notoriously hostile place to go. Estonia has to be the dream really. I'd fancy us against Montenegro as well.
We should want to avoid Bosnia. And for the Turks (and Montenegro), the second leg being away.
So not much, really.
Here's your answer:Quote:
Originally Posted by French Toasht
http://greenscene.me/2011/10/how-pot...-rate-ireland/
Us or Croatia mainly.
:)Quote:
the most dangerous is McGeady
Reminds me of how everyone, even Bangor City, wanted Rovers as seeds in the CLQ's. They didn't get their wish, and Rovers are still in Europe.