Relegation this Season

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09/05/2011, 8:59 AM
Eminence Grise

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Originally Posted by Hurt Locker

do u work 4 the fai?

He doesn't, afaik. But reading over your matutinal musings today, one could be forgiven for thinking that you live under a bridge and wait for passing billy goats.
09/05/2011, 9:01 AM
micls

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Originally Posted by Dodge

No one to blame but themselves...

I disagree.

I blame Tom Coughlan ;)
09/05/2011, 9:03 AM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by Hurt Locker

Do you work for the FAI?

Soz ad t do dat woz hurtin my i's.
09/05/2011, 12:34 PM
Hurt Locker

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Originally Posted by Eminence Grise

He doesn't, afaik. But reading over your matutinal musings today, one could be forgiven for thinking that you live under a bridge and wait for passing billy goats.

Thanks 4 ur input Confucius!!:nerd:;)
14/05/2011, 9:44 AM
legendz

I don't think the relegation system is taking anything away from the Premier this season though the number in relegation or play-off zone is down from 3 to 1. The current top 4, Pat's and Dundalk will be aiming for Europe or a cup anyways. Teams 6th, 7th and 8th should have a chance free of relegation worries to at least gain a solid footing in the Premier and look to build from there. When a relegation system comes in for the 12 team premier, I hope it's only the bottom club to go down with team second bottom in a relegation/promotion play-off.
01/06/2011, 5:05 PM
legendz

It's been an exciting start to the season so far with only 6 points separating 1st and 7th. With only 10 clubs, it's not a bad thing that only the bottom 1 or 2 are facing a relegation worry. The top 7 or 8 clubs should be able to have a cushion from the relegation places. It gives some team a position to build and it's better that they are not looking over their shoulder. When the division becomes 12, I hopes it's only the bottom club going down with second bottom involved in a play-off.
01/06/2011, 5:53 PM
passerrby

ya legendz thats just what we need is a season where a team can go all year without winning a match and still stay up
01/06/2011, 8:29 PM
peadar1987

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Originally Posted by passerrby

ya legendz thats just what we need is a season where a team can go all year without winning a match and still stay up

That's every season already.
01/06/2011, 8:34 PM
legendz

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Originally Posted by passerrby

ya legendz thats just what we need is a season where a team can go all year without winning a match and still stay up

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Originally Posted by peadar1987

That's every season already.

lol

It somes up most recent seasons alright!
02/06/2011, 1:34 PM
eamo1

Galway Utd.

So Galway Utd could lose every game between now and the end of the season(a real possibility),finish rock bottom of the league way behind everyone else with lowest points total ever and yet still only need to win a one leg playoff game to stay up??Only in the LOI:).
02/06/2011, 3:48 PM
Lim till i die

Eventhough the system is a shambles I reckon it's pretty unlikely that even in a one legged playoff Galway or Drogheda would catch any of the top four in the First Division.

And tbh even if they do, then the first division team won't deserve to go up.
02/06/2011, 7:10 PM
legendz

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Eventhough the system is a shambles I reckon it's pretty unlikely that even in a one legged playoff Galway or Drogheda would catch any of the top four in the First Division.

And tbh even if they do, then the first division team won't deserve to go up.

Agreed. In fairness the play-off is a once of due to the Premier expansion. If the third place first division team has been unable to finish in the top 2 for automatic promotion and cannot beat the bottom club of the division above, they'll deserve to stay where they are.
02/06/2011, 7:14 PM
passerrby

converservely if a team cannot compete at all and wins no games it should be relegated automatically
02/06/2011, 8:57 PM
eamo1

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Originally Posted by passerrby

converservely if a team cannot compete at all and wins no games it should be relegated automatically

My point exactly.
02/06/2011, 9:02 PM
legendz

This years system is as it is anyways. Going forward, should the bring back the relegation system of recent seasons or change it?
02/06/2011, 9:21 PM
Mr Maroon

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Originally Posted by legendz

This years system is as it is anyways. Going forward, should the bring back the relegation system of recent seasons or change it?

2 down, 2 up. Play offs are a nonsense.
02/06/2011, 9:58 PM
legendz

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Originally Posted by Mr Maroon

2 down, 2 up. Play offs are a nonsense.

I'd agree in a 16 team league. For 10 or 12 team league, 1.5 down, 1.5 up. The half being one of the so-called nonsense play-offs.

A look across Europe:
Denmark 2 (12)
Scotland 1 (12)
Swiss 1.5 (10)
Austria 1 (10)
Slovakia 1 (12)
Finland 1 (12)
Latvia 1 or 1.5 (9 or 10)
Slovenia 1.5 (10)
Iceland 2 (12)

Moldova 1 (14) They play 3 series of 13 games:
The pairings of the third round will then be set according to the standings after the first two rounds, giving every team a third game against each opponent for a total of 39 games per team. 1-7 have the extra home game.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...ovanleague.jpg

A number of leagues with 16 tend to go 2 up and 2 down.
02/06/2011, 10:26 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Mr Maroon

2 down, 2 up. Play offs are a nonsense.

Disagree. The promotion/relegation play off is one of the few things the league got right.
03/06/2011, 1:22 AM
peadar1987

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Disagree. The promotion/relegation play off is one of the few things the league got right.

A premier team against a first division team is a good thing, because it makes it more likely that the genuinely better team will be in the top division. Playoffs between teams in the same division are just gimmicky though. If a team's proved themselves better over 36 games, they shouldn't have to do it again in a one-off or two-legged affair.
03/06/2011, 1:25 AM
Ezeikial

It would be helpful if the FAI actually confirmed what the set up is going to be.

Come to think of it, perhaps a starting point is confirming if they will continue running the league at all or not.
03/06/2011, 10:09 AM
Hurt Locker

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Disagree. The promotion/relegation play off is one of the few things the league got right.

Agree gives the likes of Monaghan, Limerick, Longford, Mervue hope.
22/06/2011, 10:21 PM
RahenyBohs

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Originally Posted by PartySaint

It was said on MNS the other night that there is no automatic relegation this season, I was under the impression that the team that finishes last goes down with the team that finishes 9th going into a play-off with the 3rd place team in the first division, Anyone know the story with this?

It's ridiculous. Kills the point of a league table if the last place team doesn't get relegated(disregarding licenses or teams being demoted etc). Might explain the lack of effort at times from the likes of Galway and Drogheda down at the bottom of the premier.
26/06/2011, 11:38 AM
gufc2000

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Originally Posted by RahenyBohs

It's ridiculous. Kills the point of a league table if the last place team doesn't get relegated(disregarding licenses or teams being demoted etc). Might explain the lack of effort at times from the likes of Galway and Drogheda down at the bottom of the premier.

I think lack of effort is a bit unfair, the players are hardly going out to lose games. Lack of ability might be more appropriate
26/06/2011, 6:39 PM
RahenyBohs

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Originally Posted by gufc2000

I think lack of effort is a bit unfair, the players are hardly going out to lose games. Lack of ability might be more appropriate

I don't mean to be harsh about it but if you're not going to get relegated automatically by coming last you'll be more relaxed compared to the opposite situation.
26/06/2011, 8:21 PM
gufc2000

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Originally Posted by RahenyBohs

I don't mean to be harsh about it but if you're not going to get relegated automatically by coming last you'll be more relaxed compared to the opposite situation.

A play-off though this year could be as bad as automatic relegation. I wouldn't fancy playing Shels/Cork/Mons/Limerick in a play-off. I know it gives ya an extra chance to stay up, but everything should be geared towards avoiding finishing last.
16/08/2011, 5:19 PM
Trainee

Clubs were informed by FAI that the playoff will be over 2 legs

1st leg - 3rd in 1st Div V Galway Utd

2nd leg - Galway Utd V 3rd in 1st Div
16/08/2011, 5:37 PM
Mr A

That's pretty much the end of Galway's chances. They were slim when it was one game in Terryland, but over two legs it would take a miracle altogether.
16/08/2011, 5:54 PM
MagicMon

They said that about Salthill last year though. Its a pity that Drogheda or UCD won't get a chance to get relegated.
16/08/2011, 5:58 PM
Magicme

Feck sake, I think we would have had a better chance in a one off game coz the lads will be tired enough by then.
16/08/2011, 6:32 PM
SkStu

take it easy on them then, MM!! ;)
16/08/2011, 8:19 PM
BonnieShels

You'll be fine. Come on Mons/Lims!
16/08/2011, 8:50 PM
maksimir

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Originally Posted by gufc2000

A play-off though this year could be as bad as automatic relegation. I wouldn't fancy playing Shels/Cork/Mons/Limerick in a play-off. I know it gives ya an extra chance to stay up, but everything should be geared towards avoiding finishing last.

I know you've had a stressfull season but that comment is a tad strange. You have a chance (albeit a very slim one) of winning a play-off rather than being demoted automatically. Also, draw Cork or Limerick in particular and you would have c.750 travelling fans alone at Terryland and a bumper home crowd with big gate receipts. I know it has been a tough old season but try not to be to fatalistic regarding a possible play-off match. Wait for that rotund female to sing a tune until you throw the towel in.
16/08/2011, 9:55 PM
nigel-harps1954

So, a 9 team first division next season?
16/08/2011, 10:50 PM
Martinho II

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

So, a 9 team first division next season?

why what has happened there? surely they will bring in another team?
17/08/2011, 6:39 AM
Terry

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Originally Posted by Martinho II

why what has happened there? surely they will bring in another team?

ya, probably Athenry Fc !
17/08/2011, 7:49 AM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by MagicMon

Its a pity that Drogheda or UCD won't get a chance to get relegated.

Why? Both sides rebuilding and improving in recent weeks. Why stunt that?

Plenty of room for one or both of us to go down next season.
17/08/2011, 9:43 AM
Mr Maroon

That's us relegated now.

It'll also lower the crowd for the home leg. Less people will turn up after we've lost the away leg.
17/08/2011, 10:03 AM
El-Pietro

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Originally Posted by Mr Maroon

That's us relegated now.

It'll also lower the crowd for the home leg. Less people will turn up after we've lost the away leg.

youll get more away fans though.

If we were in a two legged play off and we had a lead after the home tie you could bank on anywhere from 500-1000 fans traveling to Galway
17/08/2011, 10:28 AM
Mr Maroon

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Originally Posted by El-Pietro

youll get more away fans though.

If we were in a two legged play off and we had a lead after the home tie you could bank on anywhere from 500-1000 fans traveling to Galway

I hope Monaghan don't finish third!
17/08/2011, 12:39 PM
Magicme

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Originally Posted by Mr Maroon

I hope Monaghan don't finish third!

Me too, I hope we are first or second!

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