Limerick's Licence And The Level Playing Field That Is The League Of Ireland

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15/02/2011, 6:23 PM
gael353

maybe just maybe we got it all wrong and the FAI just pulled off the greatest fundraiser ever and now have 220.000 euro in their bank account :rolleyes:
15/02/2011, 6:24 PM
CSFShels

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Originally Posted by osarusan

80,000 I think.

No idea what's going on with the conditions on our licencing - if we're being asked to front up the entire lot, it's madness. If it's just that the FAI are looking for certain concrete evidence of our ability to cover any shortfall in income comapred to the budget, that's more reasonable. Though, like Dodge, I wonder what form it takes - are the FAI actually looking for funds transferred to an account? Does it remain there until the end of the season?

If I remember correctly, Arkaga were asked to provide some sort of guarantee, but in their case, when it all went horribly wrong, the money was no longer there. Maybe the FAI have decided to look for more definite evidence now. You'd think that they'd make this common knowledge prior to licencing though.

Also, I'd be surprised if Limerick were the only club with a potential deficit to be covered by a guarantee.

Who else would there be at this stage?
15/02/2011, 6:29 PM
thischarmingman

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Originally Posted by Dodge

If you're projecting an operating deficit of €220k in the first division than you're not 'easily one of the best run clubs in the country'

Probably in the top 3 though.
15/02/2011, 6:33 PM
gael353

Well limerick didnt budget for an opperating loss so your/abbotstowns version is null and void. and i suggest next time your down in limerick you call out to the club where we can back up everthing with a paper trail....
15/02/2011, 6:42 PM
SwanVsDalton

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Originally Posted by gael353

Well limerick didnt budget for an opperating loss so your/abbotstowns version is null and void. and i suggest next time your down in limerick you call out to the club where we can back up everthing with a paper trail....

Is it a paper trail a mile long?

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15/02/2011, 7:31 PM
MariborKev

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Originally Posted by Town Legend

Think its about time all LOI clubs pull out of the league and set up an Independent league run by people who actually know a thing or two about football!!

The same clubs that mumbled about the P1 proposal and then didn't actual do anything about it?

Again, how exactly would you fund such an adventure?
15/02/2011, 7:34 PM
Town Legend

[QUOTE=MariborKev;1454065]The same clubs that mumbled about the P1 proposal and then didn't actual do anything about it?

What I said was tongue in cheek!!!

Again, how exactly would you fund such an adventure?[/QUOTE]

I didn't say I was going to fund it!!
15/02/2011, 7:38 PM
SwanVsDalton

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Originally Posted by Town Legend

I didn't say I was going to fund it!!

Barstooler...
15/02/2011, 7:40 PM
Town Legend

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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

Barstooler...

Far from it!
15/02/2011, 8:06 PM
Spudulika

I think he means a company that manufactures the magical mythical "barstooler" will fund it. This company is famous amongst the martyrs who follow LOI clubs through thick and thin, bankruptcy, double contracts, selling grounds (more than once), walking away from debts, hiring dubious characters to bring back the glory days and many other strengths that are specifically assigned to those who are determined to spend their lives in purgatory (or LOI Premier - 1st Division is officially designated the title of hell, while the A Championship is a polyp in the bowels of hell). The barstooler is the creature that all LOI martyrs will rail against, complain about, usually while standing up in club bars, as to sit down would mean becoming, well, a barstooler.

Actually somebody should run with that idea - Barstooler Ltd - never wet, never cold, always on the winning side - in the Sky Leagues.
15/02/2011, 9:56 PM
SwanVsDalton

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Originally Posted by Town Legend

Far from it!

How's that? Sure ye won't bankroll a multi-million pound league revamp, you must be a barstooler...or a member of the FAI.
15/02/2011, 10:01 PM
gufct

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Originally Posted by CSFShels

There was no A League when Shels were relegated, I've no doubt they would have dumped us in it if there was. Derry and Cork had to form new clubs to get into the First Division (no matter what their fans will tell you), Bohs haven't gotten away with anything as such, they've just tidied up their ship in time for the 1 time in the year when the FAI bother to check up. I fully agree that the FAI need to make sure clubs are running properly all year round, and to use points deductions where this isn't the case. But Galway were booted out of the league because they had players left unpaid going into a new season, Kildare decided it wasn't worth carrying on, and Cobh were in a heap and still aren't eligible for a First Division licence 2 years on. Big clubs generally survive quicker because they have more fans to exploit to drag them out of it.

Galway left no players unpaid get your facts right first.
15/02/2011, 10:01 PM
legendz

Limerick seem to be well run in the last few seasons. They also deserve to be commended, along with Finn Harps and Shelbourne, for fielding an A side when there is no stipulation to do so. It does seem the FAI have it in for the club. Limerick need to remember though the FAI did all they could to facilitate Limerick 37's introduction to LoI football. They maintained it was important for the game in this country that Limerick has a team in the LoI.
15/02/2011, 10:54 PM
Town Legend

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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

How's that? Sure ye won't bankroll a multi-million pound league revamp, you must be a barstooler...or a member of the FAI.

Shhh I'm actually from Waterford and go by the initials JD....keep that between the two of us!!!
15/02/2011, 11:41 PM
Charlie Darwin

So Limerick are supposedly being asked to stump up 220k (or, I assume, they have to show that they have it in a bank account) before being granted a licence.

Drogs' board came out a few weeks ago and said they required 200k or else they couldn't see the club going on as a valid concern. Could this have been the same thing - they submitted a budget and the FAI said "we need to see the money first" so they had to scale down their operations to an amateur set-up?
16/02/2011, 12:18 AM
Magicme

Or maybe Limerick made a secret pact to fundraise for Drogheda and then renaged on it.
16/02/2011, 12:22 AM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by Magicme

Or maybe Limerick made a secret pact to fundraise for Drogheda and then renaged on it.

Wouldn't be the first league club we gave a dig out to in the last twelve months...
16/02/2011, 12:32 AM
gordongekko

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

There's a lovely horse would beg to differ.

There was no player left unpaid. If you have some NEW info that no one is aware of please tell us what it is.
16/02/2011, 12:33 AM
Monkfish

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Wouldn't be the first league club we gave a dig out to in the last twelve months...

Hope they remember that should we play them in the near future..........not the hope they will! :D
16/02/2011, 12:42 AM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by gordongekko

There was no player left unpaid. If you have some NEW info that no one is aware of please tell us what it is.

Not actually going to get into it, fair enough I'll take your word.

This thread be about Limerick! :)
16/02/2011, 12:50 AM
gordongekko

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Not actually going to get into it, fair enough I'll take your word.

This thread be about Limerick! :)

Thats grand i did not mean to be trolling. But just to set the record straight agreement was reached with all players. The 2 footballing creditors who had not signed the agreement on time were non playing staff and this issue has now being resolved.

The Fai appear to be a little heavy handed with some clubs this year and soft on others but fingers crossed both Limerick and Galway United both get the result we are looking for.
16/02/2011, 12:51 AM
Lim till i die

Galway in the first would suit us grand to be honest. (no offence) :)

Although you'd beat us handily in Terryland obviously!
16/02/2011, 12:55 AM
gordongekko

How would it work with the odd number of teams?? looks like one of us wont be around come friday evening :(
16/02/2011, 12:58 AM
Lim till i die

I genuinely assumed Cobh would be bumped up but apparently that aint happening now

Who knows what the FAI will do, could have 15 teams playing one another two and a half times each by the end of next week.
16/02/2011, 8:39 AM
Mr A

We had a 9 team division once before, I think it was St Francis that folded and left the gap too late for anyone to fill it.
16/02/2011, 10:14 AM
Town Legend

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Originally Posted by Mr A

We had a 9 team division once before, I think it was St Francis that folded and left the gap too late for anyone to fill it.

Correct Mr A.....was the 2001/2002 season.

http://www.soccerway.com/national/ir...ound-1/tables/
16/02/2011, 10:24 AM
BigfeetBigsocks

Will Someone Please Think Of The CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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16/02/2011, 10:27 AM
Macy

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Would I be correct in thinking that this is a bit, erm, scandalous??

My main issue would be if they are only asking Limerick to front up or put in place strong guarantees, rather the fact that they are asking benefactors to front up. They should've put this in place for all clubs proposing benefactors donations as part of essential income since the FAI were caught with their pants down with Cork and non binding guarantee's.

If they're only asking Limerick, then it is scandalous. If they're asking all clubs budgeting for donations, then no it isn't.
16/02/2011, 10:29 AM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by BigfeetBigsocks

Will Someone Please Think Of The CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Y4wE1e9WkK...8/s320/740.jpg

Have you a point, caller?
16/02/2011, 11:35 AM
sheao

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Originally Posted by gordongekko

How would it work with the odd number of teams?? looks like one of us wont be around come friday evening :(

You just never know what to expect with the FAI do you.
16/02/2011, 12:12 PM
harpin

I hope we budgeted for compensation received from the FAI with regards the Barcelona friendly :devil:
16/02/2011, 12:39 PM
lfc at heart

Lads this is all speculation, can someone come on and tell us the ACTUAL reason Limerick might not be getting a licence that way maybe people can come up with a solution, so far ive read 4 pages of pure ****e as people don't know the reason and are making up what they THINK it is
16/02/2011, 12:52 PM
Shannonsider

Basically from what I've been told Limerick showed a big increase in their budget for the upcoming season and the F.A.I want proof of where this money is coming from and another Sporting Fingal won't occur say if Limerick's main income (Pat O' Sullivan) pulls out during the season etc.. Behind a few top Premier teams i'd say Limerick are the best run club in the country from what i've seen and the F.A.I have given them this conditional license provided they proof this budget can be achieved and another club won't go bust. I'm very confident of them getting this full license and Limerick's chairman Pat 'O Sullivan is dedicated and wouldn't put the club at risk. People can come up with conspiracy theories because of the Barcelona game but I think the F.A.I are just making sure another club doesn't go bust after showing an investment in their budget from a club chairman and not from the clubs direct income.
16/02/2011, 1:02 PM
pineapple stu

Not to query that scenario - cos I've no idea what the conditions are - but it doesn't seem to make sense that the FAI would query Limerick as the next Fingal (to the extent of not formally granting them a licence) and not challenge others (e.g. Bohs or Drogheda) who have had very recent financial problems.
16/02/2011, 1:20 PM
Mr A

I would guess it is because Drogheda and Bohs have submitted projections that are not as dependent on a single benefactor.

Who knows though? Little of what has gone on recently has made a great deal of sense.
16/02/2011, 1:33 PM
pineapple stu

Given that no-one seems to want to buy Dalymount, and no-one wants to buy Drogheda shares, I'd argue that Limerick's one benefactor is one more than either of the other two!
16/02/2011, 1:41 PM
harpin

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Given that no-one seems to want to buy Dalymount, and no-one wants to buy Drogheda shares, I'd argue that Limerick's one benefactor is one more than either of the other two!

Yes and we also had said benefactor last season
16/02/2011, 2:27 PM
legendz

Has there been any update on Limerick's move to a new ground? I think that is imperative for the future of the club.
16/02/2011, 5:29 PM
lfc at heart

have Limerick a sponsor this year,
16/02/2011, 5:34 PM
Lim till i die

Dozens of them.

Main jersey one to be announced next week afaik.

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