Are these actually covered under the block booking? (As in, do I have to go as a block booker?)
Will probably go anyway, but just checking.
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Are these actually covered under the block booking? (As in, do I have to go as a block booker?)
Will probably go anyway, but just checking.
I assume so, haven't heard anything though.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I wonder what crowd and at what average ticket price is required to cover the operating costs of hosting a game at the Aviva?
I mean, what sort of crowd is a Wednesday night fixture of Wales vs Scotland going to attract in terms of local neutrals or travelling support? Id be surprised if they got close to 10k for such a game, probably nearer 5k.
Anyone have any insight in terms of the running costs or indeed the TV income etc... coming from the tournament?
I don't want to go any further down that road, if you don't mind, but Ardee Bhoy was not referring to that team (ROI), but rather one selected by a single Irish Association at some stage in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
Whilst geographically-speaking the ROI may have "representatives from all of the island", the FAI still only chooses players from 80% of the population of the island.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
By contrast, the IFA seeks to select players from 100% of the population of Northern Ireland.
And we are the ones who get labelled "bigots"...:rolleyes:
Thanks for your concern, but I'll take my chances where I am. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
The FAI doesn't chose players born in NI. NI born players chose the FAI - there is a difference. I can assure you that anyone born in NI willing and good enough to play for the FAI will be welcomed with open arms - there's nothing to suggest otherwise. However it's up to the individual player to make his desire to play for the FAI known.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Sweet Christ, can we not go down this road again?
Fine, but I was making reference to the fact that a United Ireland does exist, if not in actual name yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
"Whilst geographically-speaking the ROI may have "representatives from all of the island", the FAI still only chooses players from 80% of the population of the island.
By contrast, the IFA seeks to select players from 100% of the population of Northern Ireland.
And we are the ones who get labelled "bigots"...:rolleyes:"
Whatever about your labels, the FAI can certainly not be labelled bigots, anyone born in Ireland can play for the FAI team. The FAI does not only choose eligible players from certain communities. They would be more than happy to select players from the full pool available in the six counties. We are all Irish at the end of the day.
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Said the blasphemer to the bishop.....Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Originally all games were to be a minimum of €40, which is the price factored into the 'season ticket' for Irish fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
Block-bookers would be expected to show up, but unsure of the hit they're expected to take. Hopefully less than the €40.
Nothing to do with the FAI's money-grabbing, just that a nonsensical tournament during an economic depression should be €10-20 max. And then we might see a crowd?
Other posters have more eloquently answered the initial points!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
As for the other tongue-in-cheek comment, collective amnesia aside, don't forget the North gets the size of the entire Irish bailout every 15 years or so, at current levels.
At the rate of just under £10k per head annually, for this particular colonial theme park!
The point is EG, unless Ireland are very good & the North very bad, only around 20-30% of those eligible will probably ever declare for a full Irish team. Though one day a nominal 'unionist' or of 'hard-line ' Prod heritage will, which is when it becomes interesting....Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Be fair, the Brits are never likely to exclude Ealing in any subsidy?? Unless there's a breakaway state led by Southall....Quote:
Thanks for your concern, but I'l take my chances where I am.
;)
Amen to that - all "debates" on this site with NI fans are just elaborate games of Tic-Tac-Toe - a futile excercise and a waste of time and energy (for both sides of the "debate" I hasten to add).Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
This tournament may not exactly set the pulse racing, but it would be a welcome departure if football related issues could take centre stage on a football forum.
Given the history of the island and its cultural associations, to wish or expect sport, as with other social aspects, to be detached from that history is Utopian in the extreme.
But to not have every single thread which comes within an arse's roar of the topic go down the tube because of the same old arguments is tedious in the extreme.
Hey, history is tedious now??
Was ever thus and ever will be.
Maybe come back in two hundred years when we're all dead....
If you don't like the thread, then hey, don't read it!!!
It'd be a lot quicker just to get rid of those who keep dragging every thread down. We want to read about the Celtic Cup competition, not about religious divides.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
But the whole point is part of the reason the competition exists, is because of an, er, religious and political divide!!!
Like I said, History.
Who cares why it exists? People want to discuss the football without the tiny minority dragging the thread off into religion.
Hmm, people don't care why their country, or adjoining areas exist??
And then just play sports against them without any regard to that???
Local rivalries will always exist. The heightened historical influence just spices it up a bit.
We could give AB and EG their own thread...
You're missing the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
You're missing the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
You're missing the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
You're missing the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
And your point??
And your point??
;)
i think his point is shaddapa ya face
I think the Benilyn is having an effect because that made me guffaw on the bus. ;)
anybody know if you will be able to get tickets for the other nations games in ticketmaster ie. scotland vs wales etc
I'm sure there'll be dozens on sale on the day, at face value or probably less.
Guessing they'll only bother to open 1-2 stands for the 'neutral' games and maybe only up to 3, for our matches.
If they have any sense.
sky are reporting the english, welsh, scots and nordies are in negotiations to play the Home Nations Cup from next year on.
Could be the end for the Celtic Cup or maybe we should swear allegiance to liz so we can play too?
Sadly I'm old enough to have been an avid fan of the "real" Home Championships back in the days of old.Quote:
Originally Posted by cornflakes
Nonetheless I'm still too wary of all the various hurdles which presumably still need to be surmounted before the HC's can be revived etc, before I start giving it a Kevin Keegan-stylee "I'd love it, I'd really love it" rant.
However if somehow it should come about, I can't see there being room for the ROI also to be involved, since a fifth team would add more matches than the international calendar could possibly accommodate (outside WC's and Euros etc).
I don't care if everyone stood on their head and sang Rule Britannia on O'Connell Street three times a day, my reaction would be "Up your* hole with a jam roll!"Quote:
Originally Posted by cornflakes
* - Don't mean you personally, cornflakes, or ROI fans generally etc; rather that snake Delaney and his bunch of cronies out at Abbotstown.
If NI Wales and Scotland are in the British championships I don't see any reason why they would want to continue to participate in the "celtic" cup. Looks like it could be a one off.
Northern Ireland and the Republic should join together for this tournament if it happens so there would be four teams in it then, Ireland, Scotland and England and Wales. Easy, problem solved.
I feel sorry for the FAI if this is true. The Welsh, Scots and Northern Irish are now gonna ditch the Celtic Cup because their big brother now wants to play ball with em?
Ha Ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuyahoga
;)
Expect the likes of EG, GR & their ilk to take their own advice on behaviour in O'Connell Street if that was the case. Or spontaneously combust.
And no sympathy for The FAI about such a crappy competition.
There's an economic depression in the country and they're trying to launch a completely pointless tournament v. 3 other sides even more mediocre than us, FFS.
I thoroughly agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuyahoga
just in time for the 2012 Olympics?Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Where opposition fans will come on three seperate occasions and spend money while showcasing the stadium. Also providing the fans home friendlies rather than spending money travelling across europe for friendlies. Stupid FAI.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Let's not start the all Ireland team debate yet again.Quote:
The BBC understands the details of a revived British Championship are yet to be sorted out but it is likely to follow the format used by rugby union's Six Nations, with home advantage in alternate years. Inviting Ireland to take part is also a possibility.
Considering that the fourth team in the competition was called Ireland all but for a handful of tournaments, it's not necessarily the case that room needs to be made for the ROI to compete. As an avid fan of said "real" Championship, surely you'd welcome the return of Ireland to the competition and the fielding of a team that fully represents Ireland? After all it wouldn't be the "real" Championship without Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
The All-Ireland thing will never happen especially with another brace of defections to the Republic from NI about to take place.
Both the Times and Independent are reporting that the FAI look set to be involved in the renewed Home Championships (if it happens)
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...287234093.html
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...s-2491018.html
It could well be a one-off anyway, but that's largely down to the eccentric way it's been organised. If that could be improved, I'd have no problem with a 'Celtic' rather than 'Home' tournament. Put simply England are the least likely of the five to commit to anything. Their claim that the original HI was dropped because of fixture congestion is baloney; they kept on playing friendlies afterwards, just against other presumably more lucrative opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by boovidge
Who said there was a problem? You might find that R.E.M. and U2 merging into one team is more likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuyahoga
I wouldn't feel too sorry. I mean, you lot should be able to arrange a one-off with Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay even if England decide to play ball (unlikely, I reckon).Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Thanks, but that won't be necessary. I'm confident of behaving properly in Dublin; I lived there, remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
The BBC are saying no earlier than 2013, if it happens at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
A team representing Ireland never left the competition. But if the FAI want to join too, that's fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
It would be careless of the FAI (and local media) not to seek to be involved, if it happens.Quote:
Both the Times and Independent are reporting that the FAI look set to be involved in the renewed Home Championships (if it happens)
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...287234093.html
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...s-2491018.html
The obvious problem with five teams rather than four is that it almost doubles the number of games from six to 10. Fitting everything might be difficult.
Were you thinking of a couple of specific players? I'm sure you're right that there's no likelihood of an end to the NI team, but that would be the case even if a couple of youth players didn't decide not to play for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by drummerboy
Hmm. No more than 3k, as in Alba? The tiniest county would bring more than that for any sort of important GAA game....Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
As for being 'showcased', well the Europa Lge. Final should increase that massively.
Finally as for home friendlies, thanks but No. 90% of them are pure crap at this stage.
Erm, Why not ask yer man EG;Am sure he'll remind you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gather round
;)
And?Quote:
I'm confident of behaving properly in Dublin; I lived there, remember.
You seem to know remarkably little about the place then, given some of the other questions yer asking online.
Hmm, that team 'representing Ireland' have hardly embraced an AI philosophy! Whereas this one would!Quote:
A team representing Ireland never left the competition. But if the FAI want to join too, that's fine.
It would be careless of the FAI (and local media) not to seek to be involved, if it happens.
The obvious problem with five teams rather than four is that it almost doubles the number of games from six to 10. Fitting everything might be difficult.
That aside, the latter two 'points' seem to contradict, by saying they should get involved, but there's no time to play the games, yeah right.
Just let's say a couple of people who received recent correspondence, not to mention numerous others, must be regretting any links with the North, let alone any soccer team that alludes to represent the place.Quote:
Were you thinking of a couple of specific players? I'm sure you're right that there's no likelihood of an end to the NI team, but that would be the case even if a couple of youth players didn't decide not to play for it.