Revolution... what's wrong with Irish people?

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Originally Posted by shantykelly

For the original post - to me, the main reason I think there hasn't been any form of mass protest or social revolution is because Irish people are, to a large extent, socially conservative, a national trait that has been evident for years in spite of the number of insurrections and rebellions. Whether this is a by product of the catholic church's stranglehold on society for so long, or just the traditional rural background and backwardness of boggers (bear in mind, even city folk in Ireland aren't too removed from the land), or just general apathy and opposition to change, or maybe a combination with other factors. Either way, I don't see any storming of the Dail any time soon, more's the pity.

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Pity. There's a couple of heads would look really good on pikes outside Leinster House.

agreed. this conservatism appears to be, historically speaking, a relatively recent phenomenon. ultimately i think the influence of rome as the head of our religion (solely for political reasons) was bad for the country, and we're only now coming out its stranglehold. irish society, to steal a phrase, is at a crossroads. we can continue down the path of apathy and selfishness that seems to have become our main national traits, or we can try and rebuild what used to be good in this place. unfortunately, i can't see any meaningful positive changes happening any time soon.

Anyone see the young fella on the Frontline, in the audience, the other day. Brilliant. Saying our electorate really needs to cop on and "stop electing buffons and gombeen men", and that we should stop giving the finance ministry to people who have no idea about finance, "like Bertie and his fake degree from the London school of Economics". Pity the fella was likely to emigrate next year to Australia, but thats what FF wants (always do). The bright and clever to leave our shores and the dregs left behind to keep voting them in.

The irish people are also to blame for the mess we are in. I mean jesus look at the creeps in the dail - what kind of people would vote for J H Rae, Cowen, Dick Roche, Harney,etc

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Originally Posted by Macy

I always felt where you live all week has more impact than where you are weekends and holidays. I think it does feed into the whole parish pump thing, and voting based on what a candidate has done for "the family" rather than based on own thoughts and national interests.

Each to their own though, but I thought technically it was supposed to be the main place of residence, rather than where you call home?

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I disagree with you there. I currently live in kilmainham and I dont have any interaction with the area other than to pass through it coming and going from work. My family ,freinds and roots are all where I am from. To put it another way if a fire was to burn down the whole of kilmainham in the morning I would up sticks and move somewhere else. If a fire was to burn the whole of where I am from down I would be straight down there to see what I could do.

I wasnt actually thinking of myself when I made the point because its a 10 minute car journey for me to go and vote. The point was raised why do we keep voting fianna fail in. I would say it is because most young people leave rural ireland to work in city centres and because its usually a struggle for them to get home and vote they dont. In my opinion this is why a lot of these areas always vote fianna fail because a good portion of the young vote with more "liberal" views arent voting.

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

I disagree with you there. I currently live in kilmainham and I dont have any interaction with the area other than to pass through it coming and going from work. My family ,freinds and roots are all where I am from. To put it another way if a fire was to burn down the whole of kilmainham in the morning I would up sticks and move somewhere else. If a fire was to burn the whole of where I am from down I would be straight down there to see what I could do.

I wasnt actually thinking of myself when I made the point because its a 10 minute car journey for me to go and vote. The point was raised why do we keep voting fianna fail in. I would say it is because most young people leave rural ireland to work in city centres and because its usually a struggle for them to get home and vote they dont. In my opinion this is why a lot of these areas always vote fianna fail because a good portion of the young vote with more "liberal" views arent voting.

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how does voting in your parents constituency impact you more when you don't live there?

Genuine question. I'm baffled by your post tbh.

Given that I never made that statement am baffled as to why I would need ot explain it. Genuinely so.

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

Given that I never made that statement am baffled as to why I would need ot explain it. Genuinely so.

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Fair enough, I'll rephrase.

You want to exercise your vote somewhere you don't live and where you cannot currently directly benefit from the influence of your vote.

To me that's irrational.

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Fair enough, I'll rephrase.

You want to exercise your vote somewhere you don't live and where you cannot currently directly benefit from the influence of your vote.

To me that's irrational.

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If you're studying in Dublin, and have every intention of returning to Cork, Galway, Sligo or wherever after you finish your studies, I see no problem with it. I met a fella in Scotland who was planning on returning to Limerick purely to vote for Willie O'Dea though. That's a bit off, when he doesn't even live in the country!

I don't care if Willie O Dea lives upstairs, saved your life previously and now gives you a daily back-rub and box of chocolates- you still shouldn't vote for the lying ****.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY4ure_GSHw

Does your friend smoke weed?

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Originally Posted by Mr A

I don't care if Willie O Dea lives upstairs, saved your life previously and now gives you a daily back-rub and box of chocolates- you still shouldn't vote for the lying ****.

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Lying? Never... he was perjurous non?

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Okay after today can we march on the Dáil please?