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Well we're sort of getting off the original point, which is that wearing a poppy is no more an expression of support for a war than voting to retain the party that started that war. People are capable of making the distinction between the people waging the war on those on the ground but it's something that critics of the poppy often miss.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
The poppy represents the British service war dead. You know, the guys waging the war on foreign fields from Norn Iron right upto Iraq. What in that can you not understand? They are supporting the troops by wearing a poppy whether they intend it or not that's how it looks, and ignorance is no excuse really.
That's fair enough, but would give any troops who fought v.'greater' fascism', over even the colonialism endured by our forefathers for centuries, some begrudging respect.
However, as stated in the main poppy thread, that line in the sand has long since passed! And not sure why even the Brits in general should be forced to feel guilty collectively over all their pointless conflicts since.
I hope you look at this again and realise how stupid it sounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
No, different viewpoints = just look at the BBC or SKY tv its quite plain what the poppy is all about. Take off the blinkersQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
So the war in Iraq is nothing then to worry about for British people far away from the conflict, their "heroes" are doing a great job fighting for British freedom
They wore the poppy afterall I see:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...r_1761557c.jpg
Look at it again: you said they're supporting the war whether they intend it or not. I'm saying the vast majority of people are capable of making the distinction between justifying the damage caused by the war and showing support for the soldiers who have basically been used as expendable pawns by their respective governments.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Possibly not in Britain, due to their media propaganda. And some of the populace not being quite the, er, 'sharpest'.
Anyway the whole charade is over for another year.
I don't get it. What's with all the rage nowadays with teams wearing the poppy? They never had them before this. No need to bring politics into sport.
You posted exactly what i was going to say as well, obvious point really:DQuote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Even today in the office one of the English guys I was talking to thought Ireland was part of the UK!!!!!
Ha ha . FFS.
;)
He's quite correct, Ireland was part of the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
And unless Cowen or Lenihan can find another few billion Euros down the back of a sofa in Leinster House (or somewhere), it could be part of the UK again...:D
That's if we deign to have you back...:eek:
Ealing, even if you deigned, you couldn't afford us.;)
Sorry IS!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
But its a thing you see a lot over here, some English people think like that.
Once even had an argument with a Welsh woman who insisted that she was correct in saying that Ireland is part of Britain and the fact that I was irish and telling her she was wrong made no difference at all to her
The Brits don't even want the 6 counties of Ireland now, they've been pointlessly subsidising for the last century, so they'd hardly want another 26.....
The celts aren't the best at spelling to be fair.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...?ts=1290540796