He winked and turned his head a few times.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Connor Sammon is not going to be called up.
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He winked and turned his head a few times.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Connor Sammon is not going to be called up.
From the Examiner: Marco Tardelli added that he'd been impressed by Jonathan Walter's match-winning performance for Stoke against Blackburn on saturday and that the in-form striker would likely feature in the squad for Ireland's friendly game against Norway next month."Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
No direct quote from Tardelli but he must have said something favorable.
Examiner must have made it up. Trap and Tardelli don't even know he's Irish.
Just like they didn't know Paul Green was Irish?
Come on! You're a good poster. Thought you'd be smarter than that.
I think you may have fallen into the trap.
I think Stutts was being a tad sarcastic to be fair. It's a dig at all the over-the-top criticism on here of Trap's scouting.
Dont think it would be wise to bring so many young lads all in at once. Always good to have the experienced lads around, even for preparation for friendly games.Quote:
Originally Posted by bwagner
I think McCarthy, Wilson, Coleman, Walters and Tracey all should be in, the rest I think are a bit off the mark just yet. Have we another friendly in February (oh no wait just realised the nations cup is on, better than any friendly). May be a decent way to blood in the younger lads.
Hook, line and sinker. :(
I'm normally much sharper than that. Haven't been on this forum in a while...that is my only "excuse"
Defo confirmed now
The 71-year-old confirmed he is looking at bringing in Stoke striker Jonathan Walters for next month's friendly against Norway in Dublin.
"They (Russia) had three, four, five strikers," continued Trapattoni. "We have Keane and Doyle. We look every Sunday for another striker. Maybe in November we will bring in Walters from Stoke."
Don't see the point of bringing Walters in. He's just another donkey journeyman that doesn't have the guile to play international football. Don't we have enough of them already?
We have enough journeyman fans who dismiss players without giving them a chance to prove themselves.
Wilson, Foley, Stokes, McCarthy, Garvan, Ward, Coleman etc etc .... there's a long list of young, up and coming players that are coming through only to be ignored by donkey journeymen, short term fixes like Green and Walters. Calling up players like Walters isn't seeking to evolve our play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Btw I see in another thread that you're telling others to stay away from games because their opinion, which was totally balanced, doesn't match yours. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by ifk101
With the exception of Garvan all the above have at some time figured in the full squad, so have not exactly been ignored. Not exactly how many Championship games you are able to take in from Gothenberg, but I have seen Walters live on a number of occasions, and more recently seen him playing for Stoke on TV. He is no more of a journey man than STokes and made a bigger impact in the Championship and Premiership than the latter managed. Who exactly are you suggesting that we pick instead, Folan, Noel Hunt, Sheridan or do we just dispense with striker cover altogether and play like Scotland? I agree that nearky all the players you mentioned together with Andy Reid should be in the squad, and I also agree that after the other night we need to adapt the way we play to be more flexible and creative, but Walters is doing well in a top ten Premiership side, and has two or three seasons of consistent Championship form behind him. He is at least as worthu of a chance as anyone on your wish list.
Garvan was involved in Trappatoni's first training camp. None of the players I've mentioned have been given anywhere near enough time on the pitch to prove themselves. By not getting the chance to prove themselves, they are being ignored.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
Good to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
Stokes is 22. What exactly was Walters doing at 22?Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
Which player has the highest goals per game ratio? How many times how Stokes gotten a run out under Trapattoni (before you write him off)?
??? There's striking cover there, that's the point. Stokes, Long, Keogh, Sheridan - all young lads that need game time to develop.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
I disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
Those are all good players. Stokes is the only one who might be able to say he's been overlooked in favour of Walters, who scored a very classy goal in the Premier League last week despite being a quadruped with hooves for feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Yes, I ordered him to stay away from games because, oddly enough, I have that power over other individuals.Quote:
Btw I see in another thread that you're telling others to stay away from games because their opinion, which was totally balanced, doesn't match yours. :rolleyes:
I'd definitely like to see Walters called up to the squad for Norway, but I have been very impressed with Stokes, albeit he is playing at a lower level but has demonstrated good striker awareness, a tireless willingness to close down and skill levels to collect the ball out wide.
Seeing as Trap has explicitly said he will have a look at it in November. Why not call him up now to replace Doyle? Will be a good experience for him and also gives Trap a chance to have a quick look at it.
He was in the B game VS Forest as well, came on as a late sub. Don't remember him doing much of note. Also, playing in a terrible Crystal Palace team in the lower regions of the ChampionshipQuote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
I dunno. You shouldn't be held to ransom over what you were at, at 22 in any career. If he got his act together a couple of years ago and committed himself maybe it's been reflected in an upward trend in his club moves since.. Maybe international football is the next stage of that trend. I say that without knowing what he has to offer but I wouldn't write him off as an asset based on an assumption. I'd be the first to stick the boot into Trapp if he didn't have a look at him..Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Don't start me.. I heard the interview where he didn't know Delap was Irish so it's entirely plausible!!!... It appears Tardelli is doing the rounds lately though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
He's been our best U21 player for quite some time. He's got an eye for a pass, good technique. There's definitely a bit of a player there - just needs the encouragement. Yes Palace are struggling but so are Derby and that hasn't working against Paul Green. But anyways I wouldn't necessarily see him in starting for us at present but the point I'm making is that we do have a decent group of young players coming through that aren't been given the opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Where's the assumption? Walters is a donkey journeyman. That's a fact. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
But all the same, I'm sure you wrote in to the FAI urging them to provides funds for a helicopter on hire, to cart Tardelli around the various Saturday venues:DQuote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
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Originally Posted by ifk101
No its an opinion, and one that is based on pretty flimsy evidence. Incidently when Walters was in his early 20's he was in contention for a first team place at Bolton and was highly rated by Big Sam. His descent to Chester (via Hull) was disappointing, but his subsequent ascent back to the premiership via Ipswich (where he was player of the season on at least one occasion, and top scorer for two seasons - I think) suggests that he has some quality. He is currently being selected by Stoke ahead of Fuller and is getting more game time than Whelan, Wilson or the recently departed Lawrence.
Seen this guy playing with Ipswich in the Championship a few times and he certainly impressed me. However, I was always skeptical whether he was good enough to make the step up to the premiership. His first couple games apart, he has been awful. He looks well out of his depth in the premiership never mind international level. Absolute disgrace Stokes is not in the squad and Walters is. Here is a link to a thread on Stoke City's fans forum discussing the topic "Can Walters still come good?"
"I'd prefer Julie Walters. She could run around like a clueless t** too, and have no bearing on a game," is one of the kinder comments
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/...=140632&page=3
Scored a penalty for Stoke.
he just got a second. Good stuff.
Walters two goals from the game v Cardiff. The first goal is a real cracker.http://www.goalstube.com/504354/Card...ighlights.html
He has a portly look about him. I thought the goalie was very suspect for the second.
I saw Andy Keogh in there, how did he play?
Just scored a near post header (from a Pennant cross)
Just flicked it on for Fuller's goal (Stoke's 4th) as well
Will not be joining up with the Squad until after tomorrows game. RTE report
Anyone find this somewhat unprofessional?Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
I understand this is a moment he'd like to be there for but this is his country and a competitive game. I've seen players play in the same week of deaths of family members, why? This is their job and a single game going badly can undo 2 years worth of work. There are exceptional circumstances that exempt players but I don't think a child birth is one of them.
you any kids of your own Murph?Quote:
Originally Posted by Murfinator
Even if he did turn up his head probably wouldn't be in the game. And if anything went wrong with the birth he'd never forgive himself. I think it's perfectly acceptable for someone to withdraw due to an impending birthQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I certainly hope not. =PQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
nothing wrong with it. Family is far more important than your job.
Thought Darwin's San Marino comment was hilarious actually, surprised it was moderated. =S
Gilesy missed the birth of at least one of his kids to play football. Walters won't be missed though.
No problem with Walters being away. Can't compare it to players playing during the week of a death, it's a totally different thing.
I deleted it myself. I'm my own worst critic :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Murfinator