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08/09/2010, 1:03 PM
abbeyvale

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Originally Posted by limpool

"we will see madden think view more worried than pike hope ye catch them tho" Hope so myself kid... BTW im not Madden, Whoever he is? I jus hope the LDMC put this game on at 2:30, lord knows they`ve made some ridiculous decisions with regard to games in the past..

All other games that Sunday should kick off at the usual time of 10.30, with Pike v View game kicking off at 2pm.
I think both clubs share the gate for the FAI games, with Pike then also making a few bob in the bar after the game especially if there is a decent game on the box at 4pm, this way everybody wins.
Pike, as they'll receive gate money and bar money
View, as they'll receive gate money (I think)
and the neutral supporter as they'll get to see both the FAI game and the game on the box at 4pm.
08/09/2010, 1:33 PM
Longshanks

From a connaught point of view I would be expecting(draw permitting) to see these teams in the open draw:

From Mayo: Ballina town, Westport, Erris
From Galway: Athenry, Mervue/Hibs, Oranmore
From Sligo/Leitrim/Roscommon: 3 of the following, City Utd, Boyle, Manor Rangers, Shivern Rovers(won Ros Prem League), Ballinasloe, Castlerea.

I'd tip Ballina Town, City Utd and Athenry to progress furthest from the above mentioned, obviously needing home draws or favourable away draws.

I suppose you'd have the usual there or thereabouts teams such as Pike/Fairview, St. Michaels, Clonmel Town, Carrick Utd, Ballymun, KUFC in the latter stages.

Any other unheralded teams we should be watching out for??
08/09/2010, 4:39 PM
blueboy2

Prospect against Ballynanty has the makings of a good match especially in Cals Park.
If Prospect have Ger Constable and the pick of both A and B players available to them then it will be a good game.
08/09/2010, 5:24 PM
KUFCMan

Killester Utd 8/1 Ballymun Utd 11/1 Pike Rovers 11/1 Fairview Rangers 12/1 Sheriff Yc 20/1 Clonmel Town 20/1 Carrick Utd 20/1 St Kevins Boys 25/1 St Pauls 28/1 St Peters Fc 33/1 Janesboro 33/1 Willow Park 33/1 Ballynanty Rovers 33/1 W.F.T.A 33/1 Rock Celtic 33/1 Clonmel Celtic 33/1 Regional 33/1 Waterford Crystal 33/1 Peakevilla Fc 33/1 Carew Park 33/1 Kilmallock 40/1 Evergreen 40/1 Mervue United 40/1 Salthill Devon 40/1 Athenry 40/1 Kilbarrack United 50/1 Killarney Athletic 50/1 Baldoyle United 50/1 Iorras Aonthaithe 50/1 Newcastle West 50/1 West Utd 50/1 Ballina Town 50/1 Galway Hibs 50/1 Killarney Celtic 50/1 Sandyhill Celtic 66/1

Found this betting on Boyles
08/09/2010, 5:48 PM
Longshanks

Pike will meet Fairview if they progess through round 1, so i wouldnt touch either of those yet, Mervue and Hibs also meet in the first round. I know its not an exhaustive list but I cant see St Michaels on it eventhough there seems to be too many Limerick and Tipp teams on it considering a ball hasnt been kicked yet, or protest lodged(!!!), or Westport eventhough Ballina and Erris are on it.
09/09/2010, 12:53 PM
Rafa 08

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Originally Posted by KUFCMan

Killester Utd 8/1 Ballymun Utd 11/1 Pike Rovers 11/1 Fairview Rangers 12/1 Sheriff Yc 20/1 Clonmel Town 20/1 Carrick Utd 20/1 St Kevins Boys 25/1 St Pauls 28/1 St Peters Fc 33/1 Janesboro 33/1 Willow Park 33/1 Ballynanty Rovers 33/1 W.F.T.A 33/1 Rock Celtic 33/1 Clonmel Celtic 33/1 Regional 33/1 Waterford Crystal 33/1 Peakevilla Fc 33/1 Carew Park 33/1 Kilmallock 40/1 Evergreen 40/1 Mervue United 40/1 Salthill Devon 40/1 Athenry 40/1 Kilbarrack United 50/1 Killarney Athletic 50/1 Baldoyle United 50/1 Iorras Aonthaithe 50/1 Newcastle West 50/1 West Utd 50/1 Ballina Town 50/1 Galway Hibs 50/1 Killarney Celtic 50/1 Sandyhill Celtic 66/1

Found this betting on Boyles

Janesboro 33/1:O that's shocking odds more like 330/1 I'd fancy Pike to go far again this year think they'll beat the view 3-1.
09/09/2010, 1:42 PM
buddygeary23

regional 33/1 semi finalist last yr....
09/09/2010, 2:30 PM
blinkx

Wouldn't pay too much attention to the Boyle Sports odds. You would think the Champions would be favourites, especially after recruiting heavily during the summer...
09/09/2010, 2:43 PM
skyguy19

what odd are st michaels, I dont seven see them listed
09/09/2010, 7:45 PM
centre mid

18/1 not 12/1
09/09/2010, 8:45 PM
Explicit

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Originally Posted by are you serious

25/1 Everton

Bit unfair letting a english premier league team in no?
09/09/2010, 9:38 PM
chief1212

what odds have corbally utd
09/09/2010, 10:50 PM
nosebleds

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Originally Posted by chief1212

what odds have corbally utd

2,000,000/1 lol:p
09/09/2010, 11:08 PM
abbeyvale

Quote:

Originally Posted by are you serious

33's with ladsbroke, whats the story with Douglas Hall that theyre 12's????

Killester United 8/1 Pike Rovers 9/1 Ballymun United 10/1 Fairview Raners 12/1 Douglas Hall 18/1 Sherrif YC 18/1 Carrick United 20/1 Crumlin United 22/1 Rockmount 22/1 Clonmel Town 25/1 Everton 25/1 St Kevins Boys 25/1 Blarney United 25/1 Clonmel Celtic 25/1 Aisling Annacotty 25/1 St Pauls Artane 28/1 Ballynanty Rovers 33/1 WFTA 33/1 Regional 33/1 Willow Park 33/1 Rock Celtic 33/1 Waterford Crystal 33/1 Westport 33/1 Carew Park 33/1 Peakvilla 33/1 Kilmallock 33/1 St Michaels AFC 33/1 St Peters 40/1 Janesboro 40/1 Mount Merrion 40/1 Cherry Orchard 40/1 Mayfield United 40/1 Carrigaline 40/1 Salthill Devons 40/1 Athenry 40/1 Mervue United 40/1 Evergreen 40/1 Bangor Celtic 40/1 Kilbarrack United 40/1 Wembley 40/1 Baldoyle United 50/1 Ballina Town 50/1 Killarney Ath 50/1 Corduff 50/1 New Ross Celtic 50/1 Iorras Aonthaithe 66/1 Newcastle West 66/1 West United 66/1 Galway Hibs 66/1 Killarney Celtic 66/1 Bellurgan 66/1 Sandyhill Celtic 66/1 Manulla 66/1 Courtown Hibs 66/1 Shamrock Rovers (Wex) 66/1 Clondalkin Celtic 80/1 Swinford 80/1 O'Devaney/Dunard 80/1 Whitehall Celtic 80/1 Howth Celtic 80/1 Mellowes Bds 100/1 Ratoath Harps 100/1 Seaview Celtic 100/1 St Josephs Boys 100/1 Fairview YC 125/1 St John Bosco 125/1 Maynooth Town 150/1

No odds up to 150/1 for 4 Limerick Prem teams (Corbally, Mungret, Star Rvs & Shannon Town), but yet odds of 40/1 for a first division Limerick team in Wembley!!!!!!
09/09/2010, 11:16 PM
nosebleds

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Originally Posted by abbeyvale

No odds up to 150/1 for 4 Limerick Prem teams (Corbally, Mungret, Star Rvs & Shannon Town), but yet odds of 40/1 for a first division Limerick team in Wembley!!!!!!

and what dose that tell you....
10/09/2010, 9:36 AM
abbeyvale

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Originally Posted by nosebleds

and what dose that tell you....

That Ladbrokes haven't a clue..............coz if your trying to suggest that Wembley are better than the above 4 Prem teams mentioned, your having a laugh.
10/09/2010, 10:02 AM
Longshanks

Didnt Wembley and Ballynanty have decent runs in it a few years back?? thats generally how they make up the market, the usual front runners plus those who have had decent runs in the past. Cant see there being much value in either Mervue or Salthill considering their first teams are LOI
10/09/2010, 10:06 AM
Jofspring

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Originally Posted by abbeyvale

That Ladbrokes haven't a clue..............coz if your trying to suggest that Wembley are better than the above 4 Prem teams mentioned, your having a laugh.

From looking at Shannons results recently i would think Wembley are a better team than them. Wembley may have got relegated last season but i don't think they where getting well beaten in the premier either.
10/09/2010, 6:04 PM
pixiehead

How many rounds before the open draw does anyone know
10/09/2010, 9:14 PM
nosebleds

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Originally Posted by Longshanks

Didnt Wembley and Ballynanty have decent runs in it a few years back?? thats generally how they make up the market, the usual front runners plus those who have had decent runs in the past. Cant see there being much value in either Mervue or Salthill considering their first teams are LOI

ya i agree i think wembley are a match for any of those teams and as you said wembley has experience in it to so thats why id say....
11/09/2010, 11:54 AM
ginge lyndz

Sure we will soon find out aren't Shannon and Wembley playing each other in the first round?
12/09/2010, 7:41 PM
Red devil

any shocks for weekend in the limerick area lads
15/09/2010, 12:03 AM
mysteryman

lads star rovers are on that draw three times,
Round 1
STAR ROVERS v MOYROSS
KILFINANE v STAR ROVERS (st.pats)
Round 2
STAR ROVERS v CAHERCONLISH
15/09/2010, 10:11 AM
nosebleds

Limerick
Round 1
1 Shannon Town 1-3 Wembley Rvs
2 Star Rvs 1-4 Moyross Utd
3 Athlunkard Villa 1-3 Aishling Annacotty FC
4 Parkville FC 0-4 Carew Park FC
5 Charleville FC 2-1 Knockloney FC
6 Regional Utd 5-1 Murroe FC
7 Prospect Priory FC 3-2 Ballynanteey Rvs
8 Kilfinnane Forest 4-1 Star Rvs
9 Hill Celtic 1-3 Summerville Rvs
10 Cappamore Cel 2-3 St. Pauls FC
11 Pike Rvs 25-0 Northside Legacy.. at half time..
12 Castle Rvs 1-2 Newport Town
13 Caledonians FC 3-1 Polonie Luimini ....thats my predictions
15/09/2010, 10:14 AM
Longshanks

So Nosebleds, you reckon it could be Pike v Fairview in the next round??
15/09/2010, 10:30 AM
Longshanks

Lads,

Is the open draw at the last 64 stage?

I make the break down of the last 64 as:

Donegal/Inishowen/Cavan/Monaghan - 5
Galway - 3
Mayo - 5
Sligo/Leitrim/Roscommon - 3
Limerick - 5
Tipp Nth/Sth/West Waterford/East Cork - 5
Kilkenny/Carlow/Wexford - 4
Dublin Sunday AUL/LSL/AFL/LFL/Kildare/Wicklow/Comb. Co./Meath - 13
Dublin Saturday AUL/LSL/AFL/UCL/LFL - 8
Cork AUL/MSL/West COrk/ Cork Bus. - 8

Thats 59 out of the 64, are the other 5 place split between Kerry, Clare and Waterford?? Anyone know the exact breakdown?
15/09/2010, 11:15 AM
Round Tower

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longshanks

Lads,

Is the open draw at the last 64 stage?

I make the break down of the last 64 as:

Donegal/Inishowen/Cavan/Monaghan - 5
Galway - 3
Mayo - 5
Sligo/Leitrim/Roscommon - 3
Limerick - 5
Tipp Nth/Sth/West Waterford/East Cork - 5
Kilkenny/Carlow/Wexford - 4
Dublin Sunday AUL/LSL/AFL/LFL/Kildare/Wicklow/Comb. Co./Meath - 13
Dublin Saturday AUL/LSL/AFL/UCL/LFL - 8
Cork AUL/MSL/West COrk/ Cork Bus. - 8

Thats 59 out of the 64, are the other 5 place split between Kerry, Clare and Waterford?? Anyone know the exact breakdown?

The way the Mayo draw is done it looks that 4 teams go into the open draw
Round 2 - 16 ties, Round 3 -8 ties, leaves 4 teams for the open draw. I could be wrong.
15/09/2010, 11:26 AM
soccer8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longshanks

Lads,

Is the open draw at the last 64 stage?

I make the break down of the last 64 as:

Donegal/Inishowen/Cavan/Monaghan - 5
Galway - 3
Mayo - 5
Sligo/Leitrim/Roscommon - 3
Limerick - 5
Tipp Nth/Sth/West Waterford/East Cork - 5
Kilkenny/Carlow/Wexford - 4
Dublin Sunday AUL/LSL/AFL/LFL/Kildare/Wicklow/Comb. Co./Meath - 13
Dublin Saturday AUL/LSL/AFL/UCL/LFL - 8
Cork AUL/MSL/West COrk/ Cork Bus. - 8

Thats 59 out of the 64, are the other 5 place split between Kerry, Clare and Waterford?? Anyone know the exact breakdown?

Its Kerry/Clare and Limerick Desmond
15/09/2010, 11:47 AM
Mission Bell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longshanks

Lads,

Is the open draw at the last 64 stage?

I make the break down of the last 64 as:

Donegal/Inishowen/Cavan/Monaghan - 5
Galway - 3
Mayo - 5
Sligo/Leitrim/Roscommon - 3
Limerick - 5
Tipp Nth/Sth/West Waterford/East Cork - 5
Kilkenny/Carlow/Wexford - 4
Dublin Sunday AUL/LSL/AFL/LFL/Kildare/Wicklow/Comb. Co./Meath - 13
Dublin Saturday AUL/LSL/AFL/UCL/LFL - 8
Cork AUL/MSL/West COrk/ Cork Bus. - 8

Thats 59 out of the 64, are the other 5 place split between Kerry, Clare and Waterford?? Anyone know the exact breakdown?

I dont know the exact split but what I cannot understand is how West Waterford and Waterford Junior League are not joined.
To have Tipp North and South joined with East Cork and West Waterford does not make any sense and seeing that WJL teams usually advance to the latter stages makes one wonder as to who decides these things?????
15/09/2010, 11:58 AM
Longshanks

I dont know how or the reasoning behind the breakdown, but looking at the list I have to say that I think the Mayo league is over represented with 5 teams, considering that they are reducing their Super league to an 8 team league. Bizzare...........no offence to the Mayo folk?!!?
15/09/2010, 12:12 PM
cufc champions

west waterford and east cork is the one league a two division league known as the red house league very poor standard from alot of their teams they should joined with wdl and get 3 teams quailfying for the outside stages instead of two bar meeting each other the out of area part of the competition could have had carrick waterford cyrstal and tramore over the last few years, its a real shame that sometimes one if not two of these teams will not make the last 64
15/09/2010, 1:05 PM
Longshanks

The WJL only get 2 places??
15/09/2010, 8:03 PM
green&white

the poor standard of some teams that qualify for open rounds makes a mockery of the fact only 2 come out of WDL.
Ck , Tramore, Crystal , southend and Villa have all performed very well over last 10 years , proving WDL`s high standard.Can anyone explain Limerick having 5 qualifiers from single league. (or correct me)
15/09/2010, 8:39 PM
Red devil

because our league is simply beter and has the best teams in the country ha
15/09/2010, 10:27 PM
inspiron

Carrick Utd Munster Jnr Cup winners last season beat Pike and regional on route .. HA

Reason why south tipp, north tipp and west waterford are joint is simply --- a certain Mr Lewis had it set up that way. Meaning more teams from his South Tipp can make the last 64. The two Waterford leagues are in the same area in the Munster Jnr Cup same should follow in the FAI, but Mr Lewis changed that for the benifit of his league. Its wrong but the people in Waterford need to stand up for themselves and right this wrong.
16/09/2010, 8:20 AM
Mission Bell

Quote:

Originally Posted by inspiron

Carrick Utd Munster Jnr Cup winners last season beat Pike and regional on route .. HA

Reason why south tipp, north tipp and west waterford are joint is simply --- a certain Mr Lewis had it set up that way. Meaning more teams from his South Tipp can make the last 64. The two Waterford leagues are in the same area in the Munster Jnr Cup same should follow in the FAI, but Mr Lewis changed that for the benifit of his league. Its wrong but the people in Waterford need to stand up for themselves and right this wrong.

Yes, I guessed it was a political thing and it seems clearer now.
How can one man have so much power? So WJL would look as if they are asleep on the job. It also explains how so many teams from the same counties are so well represented in the latter stages.
This makes it all the more commendable when teams from the less represented areas advance in the competition.
WJL, get your act together!
16/09/2010, 10:27 AM
Longshanks

In fairness it must be a balls of a Cup to organise a draw for, keep the strong leagues happy with their representation, give the 'big' clubs the best chances to progress, appear to be giving the weaker leagues a fair crack of the whip, entice the 'small' clubs to enter....a fair bit of political manouvering to be done alright.

It would be nice to see a few clubs from the 'weaker' leagues(Donegal/Inishowen/Cavan/Monaghan/Kildare/Wicklow/Clare/Carlow/Sligo/Leitrim/Roscommon) progress to the quarters for a change. No offence meant to any clubs in the mentioned leagues. I just would like to see the monopoly of the big (Fairview/Pike/Clonmel Town/St. Micheals/Carrick/KUFC/Ballymun and the likes) clubs broken up a bit and a bit of variety/novelty in the last 8. Again no offence to the 'big' clubs mentioned.

Suppose it might be a bit too much to wish for
16/09/2010, 12:02 PM
supporter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longshanks

In fairness it must be a balls of a Cup to organise a draw for, keep the strong leagues happy with their representation, give the 'big' clubs the best chances to progress, appear to be giving the weaker leagues a fair crack of the whip, entice the 'small' clubs to enter....a fair bit of political manouvering to be done alright.

It would be nice to see a few clubs from the 'weaker' leagues(Donegal/Inishowen/Cavan/Monaghan/Kildare/Wicklow/Clare/Carlow/Sligo/Leitrim/Roscommon) progress to the quarters for a change. No offence meant to any clubs in the mentioned leagues. I just would like to see the monopoly of the big (Fairview/Pike/Clonmel Town/St. Micheals/Carrick/KUFC/Ballymun and the likes) clubs broken up a bit and a bit of variety/novelty in the last 8. Again no offence to the 'big' clubs mentioned.

Suppose it might be a bit too much to wish for

Its well broken up in limerick this year with regional v janesboro and pike v fairview.
16/09/2010, 12:24 PM
cufc champions

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longshanks

In fairness it must be a balls of a Cup to organise a draw for, keep the strong leagues happy with their representation, give the 'big' clubs the best chances to progress, appear to be giving the weaker leagues a fair crack of the whip, entice the 'small' clubs to enter....a fair bit of political manouvering to be done alright.

It would be nice to see a few clubs from the 'weaker' leagues(Donegal/Inishowen/Cavan/Monaghan/Kildare/Wicklow/Clare/Carlow/Sligo/Leitrim/Roscommon) progress to the quarters for a change. No offence meant to any clubs in the mentioned leagues. I just would like to see the monopoly of the big (Fairview/Pike/Clonmel Town/St. Micheals/Carrick/KUFC/Ballymun and the likes) clubs broken up a bit and a bit of variety/novelty in the last 8. Again no offence to the 'big' clubs mentioned.

Suppose it might be a bit too much to wish for

in fairness st john bosco and st peters have gotten into finals over the last few years albeit at carricks expense along the way, there is always a surprise package in the later rounds
16/09/2010, 12:38 PM
Longshanks

Does anyone know of a site/link that gives you previous years results?

I'm trying to source info about either the 93/94 or 94/95 competitions. I was playing for Clover United of the AFL in Dublin, we progressed to either the last 16 or 8 in one of those years, we were beaten 2-0 in et by either Rosemount or Rockmount, sorry but the whole thing is/was a blur. I was a student in Sligo RTC and would commute back to Dublin for matches at the weekend. the good auld days when you could study(party) for the week and then play at a reasonable level at the weekend.

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