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28/08/2010, 12:37 AM
TheBoss

Russia

GK: Igor Akinfeev (CSKA Moscow), Vladimir Gabulov (Dynamo Moscow), Vyacheslav Malafeev (Zenit)

DF: Alexander Anyukov (Zenit), Alexei Berezutsky (CSKA Moscow), Vasily Berezutsky (CSKA Moscow), Sergei Ignashevich (CSKA Moscow), Yuri Zhirkov (Chelsea), Denis Kolodin (Dynamo Moscow)

MF: Diniyar Bilyaletdinov (Everton), Vladimir Bystrov (Zenit), Konstantin Zyryanov (Zenit), Roman Shirokov (Zenit), Alan Dzagoev (CSKA Moscow), Igor Semshov (Dynamo Moscow), Dmitry Torbinskiy (Lokomotiv Moscow)

FW: Andrei Arshavin (Arsenal), Alan Kasaev (Rubin Kazan), Roman Pavlyuchenko (Tottenham Hotspur), Pavel Pogrebnyak (Stuttgart), Dmitry Sychev (Lokomotiv Moscow)
28/08/2010, 1:18 AM
Scooby Doo

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBoss

Russia

GK: Igor Akinfeev (CSKA Moscow), Vladimir Gabulov (Dynamo Moscow), Vyacheslav Malafeev (Zenit)

DF: Alexander Anyukov (Zenit), Alexei Berezutsky (CSKA Moscow), Vasily Berezutsky (CSKA Moscow), Sergei Ignashevich (CSKA Moscow), Yuri Zhirkov (Chelsea), Denis Kolodin (Dynamo Moscow)

MF: Diniyar Bilyaletdinov (Everton), Vladimir Bystrov (Zenit), Konstantin Zyryanov (Zenit), Roman Shirokov (Zenit), Alan Dzagoev (CSKA Moscow), Igor Semshov (Dynamo Moscow), Dmitry Torbinskiy (Lokomotiv Moscow)

FW: Andrei Arshavin (Arsenal), Alan Kasaev (Rubin Kazan), Roman Pavlyuchenko (Tottenham Hotspur), Pavel Pogrebnyak (Stuttgart), Dmitry Sychev (Lokomotiv Moscow)

Hmmm...not one Spartak player in the squad. A teensy bit worrying from a McGeady fan's point of view.
28/08/2010, 1:21 AM
Charlie Darwin

I wouldn't read too much into it. The side's not exactly loaded with Russians:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Spar...#Current_squad
28/08/2010, 1:47 AM
irishfan86

Foreigners are ruining Russian football.
28/08/2010, 2:47 AM
Colbert Report

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBoss

Russia

GK: Igor Akinfeev (CSKA Moscow), Vladimir Gabulov (Dynamo Moscow), Vyacheslav Malafeev (Zenit)

DF: Alexander Anyukov (Zenit), Alexei Berezutsky (CSKA Moscow), Vasily Berezutsky (CSKA Moscow), Sergei Ignashevich (CSKA Moscow), Yuri Zhirkov (Chelsea), Denis Kolodin (Dynamo Moscow)

MF: Diniyar Bilyaletdinov (Everton), Vladimir Bystrov (Zenit), Konstantin Zyryanov (Zenit), Roman Shirokov (Zenit), Alan Dzagoev (CSKA Moscow), Igor Semshov (Dynamo Moscow), Dmitry Torbinskiy (Lokomotiv Moscow)

FW: Andrei Arshavin (Arsenal), Alan Kasaev (Rubin Kazan), Roman Pavlyuchenko (Tottenham Hotspur), Pavel Pogrebnyak (Stuttgart), Dmitry Sychev (Lokomotiv Moscow)

He's actually a right sided midfielder and he'll likely be going up against Kilbane. Very good player.
28/08/2010, 12:10 PM
elroy

On paper at least, Russia have the best squad in our group.
28/08/2010, 12:32 PM
geysir

And on the pitch as well.
It's time we got ahead of them for once.
29/08/2010, 11:25 PM
mark12345

Armenia away

Anyone know if this match can be seen on Uefa.com? And if not where might one who is abroad see it on a computer?
29/08/2010, 11:49 PM
geysir

http://www.myp2p.eu/index.php?part=sports
That's the place you go looking for links to the game. There will/should be plenty of streams available. They are usually listed about an hour before the game.
You just don't depend on one possibility but be ready to use different software to stream a different/better link.
If you are not au fait with the process, then there is plenty of time to work on your preparation.
30/08/2010, 7:05 PM
mark12345

Armenia game

Cheers geysir. / Mark
30/08/2010, 7:24 PM
elroy

Duff out, a few players may have to fly back to their clubs to complete transfers. Oh god, I have a horrible feeling about this game. Realistically its a must win.
01/09/2010, 12:26 PM
Wolfie

Full fixture list for all of Group B below.

The ref for Friday's game is Hungarian.

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2012_qualifying_Group_B
03/09/2010, 7:24 PM
boovidge

Slovakia 0-0 Macedonia HT
03/09/2010, 8:06 PM
richieos

macedonia are unlucky not to be ahead in that match.
03/09/2010, 8:12 PM
boovidge

10 mins left. this would be a great result for us.
03/09/2010, 8:21 PM
boovidge

Mac down to 10 men have conceded in injury time.
03/09/2010, 8:21 PM
tricky_colour

dam...............
03/09/2010, 8:21 PM
Noelys Guitar

Incredible scenes at the Mac. v Slovak game. Right back for Macedonia sent off (2nd yellow)for coming back onto the field without the ref's sayso. Bedlam breaks out. R/B would not leave pitch. Macedonia manager sent off for running onto pitch and not leaving. They will be in trouble for this. Great game. Really open with chances at both ends. ******. Slovakia score in last min.
03/09/2010, 8:22 PM
tricky_colour

more bad news Hart is having a good game for England.
03/09/2010, 8:23 PM
Comic Book Guy

Nothing to fear from slovakia, very very ordinary.
03/09/2010, 8:26 PM
elroy

Slovakia have scored in injury time. FCUK

Full time.
03/09/2010, 8:29 PM
Noelys Guitar

Good to see both teams giving up loads of chances. We can exploit both.
03/09/2010, 8:33 PM
boysingreen

So f'n pizzed off it's unbelievable. Watched the whole Slovakia/Macedonia match only for a great result for us to be undone in injury time. Time-wasting Macedonian RB bstard.. gets a second yellow and his team left about 10 minutes a man down to finish the job.

Feck me man.. Slovakia must have put 100 balls into the box today.
03/09/2010, 8:52 PM
Stuttgart88

Same as last campaign when Italy scored in injury time to beat Cyprus in the first game. You really want your rivals to drop points wherever possible.
03/09/2010, 9:05 PM
elroy

Agree with Stutts but in a sense the way i look at it is that basically we not need to match that result. It just means we have to beat Macedonia at home now, which we wouldve expected to do so in any case. Just as Slovakia have to beat Armenia away. Wouldve been a nice bonus though nonetheless.

One or two notable results tonight, great win for NI in Slovenia. Belarus beating france
03/09/2010, 9:37 PM
Brendan 82

I'd rather have to beat Macedonia at home than Armenia away. We did well tonight
03/09/2010, 11:00 PM
tricky_colour

Well lets hope we do not have to rely on other results to help us, still would have been nice if they drew.
Anyway surely 6 points from our first two games?
We may as well throw in the towel if we can't beat Andorra at home.
04/09/2010, 12:04 AM
Crosby87

Are we rooting for Russia and the Slovies to tie on Tuesday?
04/09/2010, 12:14 AM
MeathDrog

A draw or Slovakia win would be preferable.
04/09/2010, 12:20 AM
eaststand85

Draw ideally I reckon, they both lose two points that way.
04/09/2010, 1:37 AM
Sullivinho

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeathDrog

A draw or Slovakia win would be preferable.

I'd go along with that. Don't want the Russians gaining any advantage or superiority at this, or any stage.
04/09/2010, 11:11 AM
backstothewall

Didn't see the game, but I think we are in a great position. Looking a Armenias results over recent years someone will drop points there, but it won't be us now!
04/09/2010, 4:10 PM
Stuttgart88

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sullivinho

I'd go along with that. Don't want the Russians gaining any advantage or superiority at this, or any stage.

Are we sure that the team that got beaten over two legs by Slovenia & failed to qualify, rather than the team that won a tricky group last time out, beat Italy at the WC finals and got to the last 16, is the favourite to win this group? I'm not sure myself. Sometimes mid-ranked countries like Slovakia get the knack of qualification, something I don't think Russia ever has.
04/09/2010, 4:16 PM
Stuttgart88

Quote:

Originally Posted by backtowalsall

Didn't see the game, but I think we are in a great position. Looking a Armenias results over recent years someone will drop points there, but it won't be us now!

I don't think there was any fixture in our group last time out where we got more than Italy. In every corresponding game they did at least as well as we did. Maybe Armenia away will be one where one of our rivals slips up. Bar the obvious head-to-head games, Macedonia away is the other one where there's an opportunity to outperform.
04/09/2010, 4:48 PM
Sullivinho

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Are we sure that the team that got beaten over two legs by Slovenia & failed to qualify, rather than the team that won a tricky group last time out, beat Italy at the WC finals and got to the last 16, is the favourite to win this group? I'm not sure myself. Sometimes mid-ranked countries like Slovakia get the knack of qualification, something I don't think Russia ever has.

I hear that, but I'd still be more concerned about the Russians than the Slovaks. Slovenia's heroics notwithstanding, it's a horrendous place to go. Their home record is immense and we were thumped the last time we made the trip.
04/09/2010, 4:51 PM
Colbert Report

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sullivinho

I hear that, but I'd still be more concerned about the Russians than the Slovaks. Slovenia's heroics notwithstanding, it's a horrendous place to go. Their home record is immense and we were thumped the last time we made the trip.

Thumped? Didn't O'Shea get injured early and Hunt sent off?
04/09/2010, 4:57 PM
Sullivinho

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Thumped? Didn't O'Shea get injured early and Hunt sent off?

I was referring to our last trip to Russia. Apologies for the confusion.
04/09/2010, 5:02 PM
bwagner

Cyprus drawing 4-4 in Portugal ...goes to show Trap did well getting all 6 points last campaign, i think we are getting there bit by bit, another good 3-4 goal win now on Tuesday will be great for moral.
04/09/2010, 5:32 PM
Charlie Darwin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sullivinho

I hear that, but I'd still be more concerned about the Russians than the Slovaks. Slovenia's heroics notwithstanding, it's a horrendous place to go. Their home record is immense and we were thumped the last time we made the trip.

I don't think there's any danger of the overconfidence that preceded that performance creeping back in. We'll be firm underdogs going there this time.
04/09/2010, 6:02 PM
geysir

We would be doing well to get a point in Slovakia but we would be doing supremely well to get a point in Russia.
Somehow the Russians/SU have been our most difficult away opponents.

Our 1 up formation (i.e. after we score first) still gives me the jitters. In the blink of an eye, there was all this free space in our half, to our first line of defense. I was wondering what this noise was after we scored, then I saw it was my heartbeat rattling my shirt.
Strange enough, Kenny C on RTE was purring with satisfaction at how disciplined we were after we scored.

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