Fenn Announces his Retirement

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03/08/2010, 4:39 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by hoopy

So in your bizarro world you think that Rovers persuaded Fenn to retire so we could then sign him. Comical..

so comical that its not a million miles away from how you signed Liam O'Brien all those years ago. Same old Rovers.
03/08/2010, 4:41 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by Mario

It appears he was genuinely going to retire but then found out that he wouldn't get his lump till next Jan, i.e. after the end of the current tax year, so he has come out of retirement to earn some more cash in the meantime.

Mario

does anyone really believe that he would be that naive as not to check out these things beforehand? Please dont be taken for an idiot. Something stinks here in my opinion.
03/08/2010, 4:51 PM
Charlie Darwin

You don't think it's possible that he's just a bit thick? He's a footballer...
03/08/2010, 4:53 PM
SkStu

no, i dont.
03/08/2010, 5:20 PM
dong

Seems his "personal reasons" have been quite quickly resolved by a wee slice of the Juventus money.
He couldn't possibly have gone about this in a worse way.
03/08/2010, 5:28 PM
De Town

Disgraceful behaviour from Fenn. Surely Dundalk are going to be asking a few questions?
03/08/2010, 5:29 PM
Martinho II

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Originally Posted by SkStu

so comical that its not a million miles away from how you signed Liam O'Brien all those years ago. Same old Rovers.

what happened with liam o'brien skstu??
03/08/2010, 5:35 PM
Lim till i die

Dundalk have made a right **** up here.

Can't blame Fenn, it's not like he's a Dundalk lad or anything, I'd do the exact same if I thought my employer was stupid enough to let me away with it.
03/08/2010, 5:46 PM
Louth4sam

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Dundalk have made a right **** up here.

Can't blame Fenn, it's not like he's a Dundalk lad or anything, I'd do the exact same if I thought my employer was stupid enough to let me away with it.

Dundalk acted in good faith by releasing Fenn after he announced his retirement. To come out of retirement and sign for a rival club less than a week later is very immoral. I honestly believe that Dundalk have a legal case here and I'll be raging if we don't pursue it.
03/08/2010, 5:50 PM
Charlie Darwin

Dundalk will get compensated somehow, but whether it's from Rovers or Fenn is anyone's guess. I'd hope Rovers would do the decent thing and pay a fair transfer fee.
03/08/2010, 5:51 PM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by Louth4sam

Dundalk acted in good faith

This is the silly bit here.

The Dundalk board carved their manager up for unprofessionalism a few weeks ago incase John and Frans feeling had been hurt by him and they then allow one of his players to leave for a rival like this?!
03/08/2010, 5:51 PM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Dundalk will get compensated somehow, but whether it's from Rovers or Fenn is anyone's guess. I'd hope Rovers would do the decent thing and pay a fair transfer fee.

Ah right.

What's everyones problem then?! :)
03/08/2010, 5:54 PM
Louth4sam

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Dundalk will get compensated somehow, but whether it's from Rovers or Fenn is anyone's guess. I'd hope Rovers would do the decent thing and pay a fair transfer fee.

Nothing can be proved that Rovers did anything unlawful. Fenn however made a verbal agreement to have his contract terminated as he was retiring. He broke this verbal agreement so Dundalk certainly have a case.
03/08/2010, 6:05 PM
Dodge

No, they don't. There's no such thing as a lawful verbal agreement
03/08/2010, 6:09 PM
placid casual

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Originally Posted by SkStu

so comical that its not a million miles away from how you signed Liam O'Brien all those years ago. Same old Rovers.

Here's hoping!!
Liamo siging for Rovers co-incided with the 4-in-a-row era Rovers and one of the best sides ever to grace the league of Ireland.
he still remains one of my favourite ever Rovers players, even with him being No 2 at the bozos now.

as for your comment about something stinks where you are. have a wash.
03/08/2010, 6:14 PM
Louth4sam

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Originally Posted by Dodge

No, they don't. There's no such thing as a lawful verbal agreement

Of course there is, they're just very hard to prove. His leaving interview does just that.
03/08/2010, 6:19 PM
L.T.F.C.

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Originally Posted by Dodge

No, they don't. There's no such thing as a lawful verbal agreement

There is such a thing known as a gentleman's agreement.
03/08/2010, 6:21 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by Martinho II

what happened with liam o'brien skstu??

very similar story actually Martinho, though different times and this is arguably worse. O'Brien was with Bohs in 1983, one of the best young talents in the league at the time and was tapped up by Rovers (who were taking every clubs best talents at that time so they could buy the 4 in a row) and ended up asking Billie Young to let him go so he could pursue a playing career and education in the States only to sign for Rovers just days later and ending up securing Rovers a transfer fee when he moved to Man Utd. Lots of Bohs fans were bitter towards O'Brien and Rovers about that episode.
03/08/2010, 6:22 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by placid casual

Here's hoping!!
Liamo siging for Rovers co-incided with the 4-in-a-row era Rovers and one of the best sides ever to grace the league of Ireland.
he still remains one of my favourite ever Rovers players, even with him being No 2 at the bozos now.

as for your comment about something stinks where you are. have a wash.

typical Rovers arrogance. And people say Bohs are bad. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Dodge

No, they don't. There's no such thing as a lawful verbal agreement

Yes, there is.

Either way, i doubt anything will be done about this.
03/08/2010, 6:24 PM
hoopy

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Interesting that he didn't (it seems) go back to Dundalk and at least give them first option. Must have been offered more by Rovers than he was getting at Dundalk.

Do you think that perhaps he may feel he has some chance of winning a trophy coming to Rovers instead of going back to Dundalk? No doubt the ever growing list of Dundalk players who want away from their manager will look on in envy. Anything that annoys Foster is a bonus :D
03/08/2010, 6:29 PM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by Louth4sam

Nothing can be proved that Rovers did anything unlawful. Fenn however made a verbal agreement to have his contract terminated as he was retiring. He broke this verbal agreement so Dundalk certainly have a case.

Rovers' conduct is a separate matter. What I mean is that Fenn has basically just been transferred between two clubs, except there was no fee involved and the two clubs never agreed to it. The obvious solution is for the two clubs to reach a financial settlement.
03/08/2010, 6:46 PM
GGAJD

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Originally Posted by SkStu

very similar story actually Martinho, though different times and this is arguably worse. O'Brien was with Bohs in 1983, one of the best young talents in the league at the time and was tapped up by Rovers (who were taking every clubs best talents at that time so they could buy the 4 in a row:confused::confused:) and ended up asking Billie Young to let him go so he could pursue a playing career and education in the States only to sign for Rovers just days later and ending up securing Rovers a transfer fee when he moved to Man Utd. Lots of Bohs fans were bitter towards O'Brien and Rovers about that episode.

And what have the gypo's been doing for the last three years??

Liam was offered a chance to go to Canada at the request of Mr Giles. But after was given permission to go, he was told by giles he'd have to wait until the following season for some reason. He contacted bohs about re-signing but he asked for a signing on fee and wages , as he'd been on amatuer terms previously and bohs wouldn't or couldn't pay him what he was lookin for. Rovers did, end of.

Your constant snide comments about everything Rovers do is getting tiresome. If you spent more time investigating how your own club is run and did something about it, you'll be a happier person.

Rovers were one of three or four clubs who were contacted by Fenn or his agent, so he was goin to sign for someone this week reguardless
03/08/2010, 7:00 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by GGAJD

And what have the gypo's been doing for the last three years??

Liam was offered a chance to go to Canada at the request of Mr Giles. But after was given permission to go, he was told by giles he'd have to wait until the following season for some reason. He contacted bohs about re-signing but he asked for a signing on fee and wages , as he'd been on amatuer terms previously and bohs wouldn't or couldn't pay him what he was lookin for. Rovers did, end of.

Your constant snide comments about everything Rovers do is getting tiresome. If you spent more time investigating how your own club is run and did something about it, you'll be a happier person.

Rovers were one of three or four clubs who were contacted by Fenn or his agent, so he was goin to sign for someone this week reguardless

im leaving this thread to the rightful indignation of Dundalk fans but if you want to take up this conversation some other place im more than willing, your account of things has more holes than swiss cheese.
03/08/2010, 7:04 PM
sligo23

Apparently Fenn is now the highest paid player in the league.
03/08/2010, 7:05 PM
Dunny

Fenn is nothing but a snake, should get on well with O'Neill. I hope Bohs tear Rovers a new one on Sunday.
03/08/2010, 7:08 PM
CSFShels

Theres no way they will get away with it, that'll be that for dignity in Irish football if they do.
03/08/2010, 7:08 PM
dong

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Originally Posted by SkStu

taking every clubs best talents at that time so they could buy the 4 in a row)

Reminds me of a certain other club.
That's football Stu, surely you can do better than that?
03/08/2010, 7:10 PM
Rasher

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Originally Posted by sligo23

Apparently Fenn is now the highest paid player in the league.

And if you read it on the internet it MUST be true.
03/08/2010, 7:13 PM
dong

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Originally Posted by CSFShels

Theres no way they will get away with it, that'll be that for dignity in Irish football if they do.

Dignity in Irish football? Is there such a thing?
03/08/2010, 7:13 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by dong

Reminds me of a certain other club.
That's football Stu, surely you can do better than that?

do better than what? Im just giving the context of the transfer. Nothing more.

Im presuming the certain other club youre talking about is Longford. ;)
03/08/2010, 7:30 PM
RoversHead

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Originally Posted by SkStu

do better than what? Im just giving the context of the transfer. Nothing more.

Im presuming the certain other club youre talking about is Longford. ;)

and 13 mins after you announce your retirement from the thread your back,shocking behavior!:Doh and before I go, two of the other interested clubs were Bohs and Shligo !
03/08/2010, 7:49 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by hoopy

Is anyone surprised that Bohs and Sligo fans are moaning on here more than Dundalk's? The gas thing is that they'll try to come across as all concerned about the wellbeing of the league. Total b**** as the rest of us know. If it wasn't Shamrock Rovers involved it wouldn't be the usual suspects on here having a go. It's very funny to read.

And if wasn't Rovers doing it, you'd be moaning too.

Its poor form and shows Rovers, Dundalk and Fenn in a bad light. Which is no bad thing IMO
03/08/2010, 7:50 PM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by hoopy

Is anyone surprised that Bohs and Sligo fans are moaning on here more than Dundalk's? The gas thing is that they'll try to come across as all concerned about the wellbeing of the league. Total b**** as the rest of us know. If it wasn't Shamrock Rovers involved it wouldn't be the usual suspects on here having a go. It's very funny to read.

The part I'm struggling with is... of all the players for Rovers to conspire with to fraudulently break a contract, why did they pick a past-it striker who wasn't even a guaranteed starter at his original club anymore?

Even by conspiracy theory standards, this one's a bit whacked.

edit: not denying that Rovers/Fenn have acted unethically though
03/08/2010, 7:54 PM
dong

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Originally Posted by hoopy

Is anyone surprised that Bohs and Sligo fans are moaning on here more than Dundalk's? The gas thing is that they'll try to come across as all concerned about the wellbeing of the league. Total b**** as the rest of us know. If it wasn't Shamrock Rovers involved it wouldn't be the usual suspects on here having a go. It's very funny to read.

Tar us all with the same brush why don't you again?
I really only have an issue with how Fenn acted in all this.

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Originally Posted by RoversHead

and 13 mins after you announce your retirement from the thread your back,shocking behavior!:Doh and before I go, two of the other interested clubs were Bohs and Shligo !

If I was to believe this to be true (and I doubt it as it seems a tad convenient) - So what if we were interested in him?
Are you and Hoopy the same person?
03/08/2010, 7:56 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

The part I'm struggling with is... of all the players for Rovers to conspire with to fraudulently break a contract, why did they pick a past-it striker who wasn't even a guaranteed starter at his original club anymore?

Even by conspiracy theory standards, this one's a bit whacked.

edit: not denying that Rovers/Fenn have acted unethically though

he's not really that past it - he's a multiple league and cup winner with bags of experience who tore Rovers a new arsehole in Tallaght earlier in the season.

As i said earlier, its near impossible to prove any wrongdoing by any party but this certainly has a smell of benjy about it.
03/08/2010, 7:59 PM
Nah Nah Nah Nah

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Originally Posted by Dave_SRFC

Very bitter Sligo and Bohs fans out there....

And sure if Bohs did it you'd be OK about it.....

I'm not bitter about it as such. I'm not sure what the correct word is (!) but no matter who Fenn had signed for what he's done isn't right and whoever signed him can't think they could just come out of it smelling of roses either
03/08/2010, 7:59 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by dong

If I was to believe this to be true (and I doubt it as it seems a tad convenient) - So what if we were interested in him?

its called picking 2 teams out of his head. How Bohs were looking to sign him is beyond me - we had a few trialists looking for very little that we couldnt sign.
03/08/2010, 8:08 PM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by SkStu

he's not really that past it - he's a multiple league and cup winner with bags of experience who tore Rovers a new arsehole in Tallaght earlier in the season.

As i said earlier, its near impossible to prove any wrongdoing by any party but this certainly has a smell of benjy about it.

Ah he is well past his best. I think he'll do a job for Rovers because we lack creativity in the centre but he doesn't really have the legs anymore.

I'd be more concerned if O'Neill was scheming with Fenn instead of looking for a proper full back.
03/08/2010, 8:10 PM
Dave_SRFC

Maybe Dundalk wanted him off payroll, we'll have our answer in the next few days...
03/08/2010, 8:13 PM
bingoballs

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Originally Posted by Dave_SRFC

Very bitter Sligo and Bohs fans out there....

call me bitter all you like, fact is that not fot the first time this season, shams have signed a player under the most dubious of circumstances. its an awful way to coduct your business, unsporting and dishonest, and leaves a bad taste in everyones mouth.

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