Limerick Division 1B 2010/11

Athlunkard 2-1 Pike Rvs

Good win for us against a tough Pike side. Worked hard for it and probably deserved it in the end. Had a few chances to make it more. Breakthrough came when the ref gave us a debatable penalty. 1-0 the ref made amends by giving Pike an even more debatable peno. The winner came halfway through the 2nd half, when a corner was eventually turned in from close range. Must be said, Pike almost got the equiliser only for a fantastic save from our keeper who then collided with the post, great save B!

caherconlish 1 bruff 2 dissapointing result for the lish we missed a penalty and a few glorious chances but in saying that bruff also missed a peno and hit the post and crossbar its a good bruff side and they will be able opponents for most teams but still a long way to go just look at athlunkard last season

knockainey 5-3 herbertstown
danger reffed it and he tried to ruin watwas a good match....

saw most of the lish v bruff game,lively enough match but disappointed with the football played,too much long ball and to be fair bruff just about deserved it.caherconlish had a few regulars on the bench ,whats the story there lads ?

Dromore 2 - 4 Cappamore Celtic

Hospital 3 3 0 0 8 3 9
Athlunkard Villa 3 2 1 0 8 4 7
Cappamore 3 2 0 1 7 5 6
Knockainey 3 2 0 1 9 8 6
Herbertstown 3 1 1 1 6 7 4
Bruff Utd 2 1 0 1 4 4 3
Pike Rvs B 2 1 0 1 2 2 3
Caherconlish 2 0 1 1 2 3 1
Dromore Celtic 2 0 1 1 3 5 1
Murroe 2 0 0 2 2 4 0
Caledonians 3 0 0 3 5 11 0


Results
Thursday 26th
Athlunkard Villa 2-1 Pike B,
Caledonians 1-3 Hospital,
Caherconlish 1-2 Bruff,
Knockainey 5-3 Herbertstown,
Dromore 2-4 Cappamore,

Fixtures
Sunday 29th
Murroe v Cappamore, 10.30, F O’Neill
Hospital v Athlunkard Villa, 10.30, M Kiely
Bruff v Pike B, 10.30, M Bourke
Herbertstown v Caledonians, 10.30, T Mannion
Dromore v Caherconlish, 10.30, P O’Brien

Thursday 2nd
Athlunkard Villa v Bruff
Hospital v Herbertstown
Pike B v Dromore
Caherconlish v Murroe
Knockainey v Cappamore

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Originally Posted by Fairkop

saw most of the lish v bruff game,lively enough match but disappointed with the football played,too much long ball and to be fair bruff just about deserved it.caherconlish had a few regulars on the bench ,whats the story there lads ?

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the referee wrecked the game alot of bad decisions and very inconsistant.very scrappy game all long balls over the top from both teams

cals 1-3 hospital

pike were missing a few players last night with 2 called up to the the a team and 2 injured, but looked like a tough game athlunkard look to be a strong side and will do well this season. as usual the ref was poor

agree with champs09, from the games iv seen so far refs have been poor. u expect one or two wrong decisions but there seems to be far too many, refs making more of challenges than they actually are, ruinin games, its as if they see the teams playing and presume its going to be a dirty game when its actually not.

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Originally Posted by Fairkop

saw most of the lish v bruff game,lively enough match but disappointed with the football played,too much long ball and to be fair bruff just about deserved it.caherconlish had a few regulars on the bench ,whats the story there lads ?

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caherconlish are a long ball side, seen them a few times last season and in pre season, thats jus the way they play, but it works for em so play to ur strengths.

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Originally Posted by champs09

pike were missing a few players last night with 2 called up to the the a team and 2 injured, but looked like a tough game athlunkard look to be a strong side and will do well this season. as usual the ref was poor

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so you would have had 7 or 8 subs for last night then.

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Originally Posted by mysteryman

caherconlish are a long ball side, seen them a few times last season and in pre season, thats jus the way they play, but it works for em so play to ur strengths.

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Totally agree they play to there strengths and there good at it. bit suprissed they slipped up last night but v early days in the leauge. good start for hospital but 1 loss and the rest can pass them out thats the way its gonna be I think for the year lots of table hoping every week!!

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Originally Posted by mysteryman

caherconlish are a long ball side, seen them a few times last season and in pre season, thats jus the way they play, but it works for em so play to ur strengths.

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your right,but having seen them a few years back they seemed to have changed their style,not playing the football they played previously.nothing worse than watching a game with long ball after long ball,ugly stuff.

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Originally Posted by Fairkop

your right,but having seen them a few years back they seemed to have changed their style,not playing the football they played previously.nothing worse than watching a game with long ball after long ball,ugly stuff.

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promotion for the last 3 or four seasons obviously they are doing something right

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Originally Posted by ProEvo

so you would have had 7 or 8 subs for last night then.

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ya as pike have 22 signed big squad

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Originally Posted by champs09

ya as pike have 22 signed big squad

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Didnt have dat big a squad last year, who ar the new lads this year?

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Originally Posted by stevieg

promotion for the last 3 or four seasons obviously they are doing something right

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like i said, if it works for them go with it, they play to their strengths well... and dont get ahead of yourself, the only promotion of note was that of last season.

and in reply to pro evo... bruff with a full team are a tough side to play against... they will hold their own in this league.

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Originally Posted by mysteryman

like i said, if it works for them go with it, they play to their strengths well... and dont get ahead of yourself, the only promotion of note was that of last season...
and in reply to pro evo... bruff with a full team are a tough side to play against... they will hold their own in this league.

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i agree with you about playing to your strengths yes ..secondly im not getting ahead of myself but i reckon any promotion you get would have been hard fought for and an achievement at that time so mysteryman dont agree with you on that but we are all entitled to our own views

Hospital 2-2 Athlunkard

We went 1-0 late in the first half, in which we rode our luck a little. We played much better in second half, but mistakes cost us 2 goals. The second of which was a fantastic finish from the center forward. That was with 5 mins to go, our player manager came on and scored the equiliser with 1 min to go with a superb header.

any results from todays games

Hospital 4 3 1 0 10 5 10
Cappamore 4 3 0 1 8 5 9
Athlunkard Villa 4 2 2 0 10 6 8
Knockainey 3 2 0 1 9 8 6
Caherconlish 3 1 1 1 4 4 4
Herbertstown 4 1 1 2 6 8 4
Bruff Utd 2 1 0 1 4 4 3
Pike Rvs B 2 1 0 1 2 2 3
Caledonians 4 1 0 3 6 11 3
Dromore Celtic 3 0 1 2 4 7 1
Murroe 3 0 0 3 2 5 0



Results
Sunday 29th
Murroe 0-1 Cappamore,
Hospital 2-2 Athlunkard Villa,
Bruff OFF Pike B,
Herbertstown 0-1 Caledonians,
Dromore 1-2 Caherconlish,

Thursday 2nd
Athlunkard Villa v Bruff
Hospital v Herbertstown
Pike B v Dromore
Caherconlish v Murroe
Knockainey v Cappamore

Sunday 05th
Herbertstown v Athlunkard Villa, 10.30, B Kelly
Dromore v Bruff, 10.30, J Curran
Murroe v Pike B, 10.30, T Mannion
Cappamore v Caledonians, 10.30, J Clancy
Knockainey v Caherconlish, 10.30, T Meagher

Results
Sunday 29th
Murroe0-1 Cappamore,
Hospital 2-2 Athlunkard Villa,
Bruff OFF Pike B,
Herbertstown 0-1 Caledonians,
Dromore 2-4 Caherconlish,
scores might be wrong but results are right
Thursday 2nd
Athlunkard Villa v Bruff
Hospital v Herbertstown
Pike B v Dromore
Caherconlish v Murroe
Knockainey v Cappamore[/QUOTE]

caherconlish 2 dromore 1 deserved win in the end for the lish

Is Danger the worst referee in the history of Limerick soccer?

No, Johnny Carey will never be beaten.

No, Johnny Carey will never be beaten.

Ha Ha!

It's a poor reflection on referees in general in Limerick that they get so much flak. Enda Quaid was one of the best referees in Limerick & was always fair to both sides. But the fact that Danger is still refereeing shows that nobody really wants to take up refereeing. Danger tends to annoy both teams and you can't talk to him or he goes off talking in this dialect that nobody understands. He dishes out yellow cards for fun & angers players with his behaviour. Football is all about letting the game flow but sadly in his case, all that flows is what comes out of his mouth, some language that nobody understands.

danger is by far worse than carey....danger gave an offside for a backpass in our last match.

Although I do agree the standard of refereeing in this town is not of the elite standard that we seem to expect from amateurs, I do not agree with naming them and slating them publically on this. Without them, there would be no games at all. Even 5 professional officials get decisions wrong in a top european game, so 1 amateur official is bound to make lots of wrong decisions. We all get games where refs are "all for them" and "all for us". Think ye lads can do better, a whistle in Limerick Sports Store costs 2.75. Best of luck.

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Although I do agree the standard of refereeing in this town is not of the elite standard that we seem to expect from amateurs, I do not agree with naming them and slating them pubically on this. Without them, there would be no games at all. Even 5 professional officials get decisions wrong in a top european game, so 1 amateur official is bound to make lots of wrong decisions. We all get games where refs are "all for them" and "all for us". Think ye lads can do better, a whistle in Limerick Sports Store costs 2.75. Best of luck.

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well said! the poor aul referees get an awful doing. it's bad enough the abuse they have to tolerate on the pitch from players and managers without being publicly slated on the internet. give em a break. let's not forget that players make mistakes on the pitch too

There are a few refs that are very bad and could do with packing it in but at the end of the day if these refs weren't around then we'd be all on this complaining about even more matches being cancelled due to lack of refs.

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Although I do agree the standard of refereeing in this town is not of the elite standard that we seem to expect from amateurs, I do not agree with naming them and slating them publically on this.

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Fair point, but if a manager/player makes a mistake they are criticised. I agree the referees do a vital job but I also believe so much of refereeing is common sense. There are some who you know will not be for one side or the other and they will make their calls and get some right, some wrong. I think we can all accept that. But if a referee gives a decision & refuses to be questioned and books any player that questions him, I think that is out of order. A lot of the younger referees realise that and are willing to explain their decisions as long as they are not ranted at and are not abused. Not for one second would I condone abusing any official, that is out of order.

But I do believe no referee is above criticism & my criticism of Danger is not his decision making but his inability to let players enjoy the game. I have refereed at underage level myself, it is a thankless job and of course I got decisions wrong, but what I tried to do was let the players get on with the game. If you look at the best there has ever been in world football (Collina) players say he let the game flow & treated players like adults & was always willing to explain his decisions. Simple approach but it works.

Fair play, we all make mistakes

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Although I do agree the standard of refereeing in this town is not of the elite standard that we seem to expect from amateurs, I do not agree with naming them and slating them publically on this. Without them, there would be no games at all. Even 5 professional officials get decisions wrong in a top european game, so 1 amateur official is bound to make lots of wrong decisions. We all get games where refs are "all for them" and "all for us". Think ye lads can do better, a whistle in Limerick Sports Store costs 2.75. Best of luck.

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If a ref calls every decision right in a game (theoretically of course :P ) he will still get abuse off of teams. Players will be treated like adults when they act like adults. As a past ref yourself, would you like to hear your name mentioned in "the top 5 worst referee's in limerick" if you were still doing it at present? Another thing is we rarely give praise to refs. Players and managers get congratulated all season, at end of seasons awards. Refs get a handshake at the end of the match (sometimes not even that). Why not mention the top refs in town. IMO they are the ones who have played before, the ones with the common sense, so I do agree with you on that. Donal Power is prob my fave. Played until his mid 30's or so, came in a few years ago and is a fantastic ref.

Table (31/08/10)
Hospital 4 3 1 0 10 5 10
Cappamore 4 3 0 1 8 5 9
Athlunkard Villa 4 2 2 0 10 6 8
Knockainey 3 2 0 1 9 8 6
Caherconlish 3 1 1 1 4 4 4
Herbertstown 4 1 1 2 6 8 4
Bruff Utd 2 1 0 1 4 4 3
Pike Rvs B 2 1 0 1 2 2 3
Caledonians 4 1 0 3 6 11 3
Dromore Celtic 3 0 1 2 4 7 1
Murroe 3 0 0 3 2 5 0



Fixtures
Thur 02/09/10
Athlunkard Villa v Bruff Utd, R Hennessy
Hospital v Herbertstown, P O’Brien
Pike B v Dromore, R Peiper
Caherconlish v Murroe, O Hayes
Knockainey v Cappamore, M O’Halloran


Sun 05/09/10
Herbertstown v Athlunkard Villa, 10.30, B Kelly
Dromore v Bruff, 10.30, J Curran
Murroe v Pike B, 10.30, T Mannion
Cappamore v Caledonians, 10.30, J Clancy
Knockainey v Caherconlish, 10.30, T Meagher

Thur 09/09/10 @ 18.15
Athlunkard Villa v Dromore
Hospital v Cappamore
Pike B v Knockainey
Caledonians v Caherconlish

Some good points there Villain10. I think Mike Burke, Jim Clancy & young Hennessy are good refs. I've always liked Ollie Hayes. He's not the fittest, but he is a ref who will explain his decisions and I've NEVER seen him go out to do one side, give decisions against them etc.

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Fair point, but if a manager/player makes a mistake they are criticised. I agree the referees do a vital job but I also believe so much of refereeing is common sense. There are some who you know will not be for one side or the other and they will make their calls and get some right, some wrong. I think we can all accept that. But if a referee gives a decision & refuses to be questioned and books any player that questions him, I think that is out of order. A lot of the younger referees realise that and are willing to explain their decisions as long as they are not ranted at and are not abused. Not for one second would I condone abusing any official, that is out of order.

But I do believe no referee is above criticism & my criticism of Danger is not his decision making but his inability to let players enjoy the game. I have refereed at underage level myself, it is a thankless job and of course I got decisions wrong, but what I tried to do was let the players get on with the game. If you look at the best there has ever been in world football (Collina) players say he let the game flow & treated players like adults & was always willing to explain his decisions. Simple approach but it works.

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this is true and also referees in this league are too inconsistant they give a free and book a player then 5 mins later the exact same situation comes along and nothing happens no booking no free this happened alot in the bruff caherconlish game..if a ref makes a wrong call ok no one is perfect but atleast be consistant

any changes on the early predictions on who people think have a chance in winning this league this year?

Dont know about predicting the winners, but I am delighted to see an old team of mine start very Well. Athlunkard Villa had been in 2A so long its great to see them up there competing in 1B this year, have not seen them this season, watched quite a few last season and they have a nice style of football. hope to see thursdays game.

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any changes on the early predictions on who people think have a chance in winning this league this year?

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Is Danger the worst referee in the history of Limerick soccer?

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Yes, yes he is..

Trevor Hoare was the best ref this town ever saw, but enough on refs lads, back to the beautiful game.
I was delighted to see Hospital drop points the weekend and if we win our games in hand we will be just a point off the pace. We'll be going all out for 6 points by Sunday evening..