That was CSKA Sofia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin Red
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That was CSKA Sofia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin Red
Tough one for us.
The Israelis thought they had trouble with the Palestinians wait til that lot show up
Cheers, i wasn't sure. Levski were the third highest ranked team in the draw which included team like Olyimpiacos and the likes. Says it all really - not much hope of further progression there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boo_Boy
Our hopes lie with Bohs and Shams. :)
Yes,Both at home first.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
I look at euro games 3 ways; likelihood of winning it, what sort of jolly is it, will the club make some money on it.
I think Rovers have been screw on all 3 fronts. I’d expect the Israelis to get through, as that league is fairly strong. The fans would only have a week to organise a trip there, and obviously a fair bit of expense. Now, they’ll probably get a decent home crowd (by far more than the other Irish clubs), its stil going to cost them a fortune to get there. Add in hiked up security costs (in flotilla protest way) and it’s a logistical nightmare.
Fingal may have the hardest task but they have the nicest trip. Probably won’t be a crowd puller but flghts to Portual are cheap and plentiful.
Dundalk should win the first tie, meaning they’r ein bonus time in Europe. Anything else they get is gravy.
Champions League
2nd Round Qualifying
Bohs v TNS
Europa League
1st Round Qualifying
Dundalk v Grevenmacher
2nd Round Qualifying
Rovers v FC Ulysses/Bnei Yehuda
Maritimo v Sporting Fungus
Levski Sofia v Dundalk/Grevenmacher
If Dundalk and Bohs don't get through a round then there'll be a few happy Longford fans.
Think will take some very good performances in the second round for anyone to progress. Probably Fingal best shot at progression from there.
3rd round CL draw is after 1st fixture in second round?
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Originally Posted by Dodge
Are Maretimo on the island of Madeira - rather than the mainland - somewhere north west of the Canaries?
Nice spot - but flights less frequent and much more expensive?
I went on holiday out there last year and it was pretty cheap. You can fly direct from UK airports or via Lisbon.
Could someone please be able to put up the draws in full? Cheers.
Now its to time to do some research on all the teams we are playing :)
Good spot. Got my portuguesee teams mixed up there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buile Shuibhne
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Originally Posted by Dodge
Bnei Yehuda may be down as favoourites for both matches and they have a small bit of European experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buile Shuibhne
But I think Bnei Yehuda will be vunerable if they play in both rounds.
FC Ulysses ( takes them four or five attempts before fans get to finish reading a match report).
Armenia FF
http://www.ffa.am/en/
(don't know if the contact details within are useful).
They seem to be from Yerevan, which is always helpful.
As Shamrock Rovers are at home they have two weeks to arrange transport and accomodation. Which gives fans hoping to travel time to get the 7 day Saturday night stay options. Using a Travel Agent, as the FC will do, may allow time to hold two differentr itineraries and drop one when the destination is confirmed.
It would be awful if there was controversy during the 1st rd. game and Shamrocjk Rovers fans had to wait an extra day or two until appeals were exausted.
Madeira is down in the middle of the Atlantic (why does UEFA allow these teams off Africa to compete in Europe?).
But there should be flights from Mainland Europe (outside of Portugal) almost everyday.
Seven night package would be a good trip too. (what harm to the miss the other leg).
What sort of controversy do you mean that would lead to appeals?Quote:
Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce
Awful draw for us, finally back in European competition and we end up with two non-European potential opponents.
The third qualifying round will be split into two separate sections: one for champions and one for non-champions. The losing teams in both sections will enter the play-off round of the 2010–11 UEFA Europa League.
So if Bohs beat TNS then lose in the 3rd round they will be in the playoff round of the Europa. Sounds good. I'm confident they'll beat TNS without any problems.
UEFA Champions League 2010/2011
First qualifying round
The first legs will be played on 29 June and 30 June, and the second legs will be played on 6 July and 7 July 2010.
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Match 1: Tre Fiori vs. Rudar Pljevlja
Match 2: FC Santa Coloma vs. Birkirkara
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Second qualifying round
The first legs will be played on 13 July and 14 July, and the second legs will be played on 20 July and 21 July 2010.
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Liepājas Metalurgs vs. Sparta Prague
Aktobe vs. Olimpi Rustavi
Levadia vs.Debrecen
Partizan vs. Pyunik
Inter Baku vs. Lech Poznań
Dinamo Zagreb vs. Koper
Litex Lovech vs. Winners of Match 1
Winners of Match 2 vs. Žilina
Sheriff Tiraspol vs. Dinamo Tirana
Hapoel Tel Aviv vs. Željezničar
Omonia vs. Renova
Red Bull Salzburg vs. HB Tórshavn
Bohemians vs. The New Saints
BATE vs. FH
AIK vs. Jeunesse Esch
Linfield vs. Rosenborg
Ekranas vs. HJK Helsinki
By controversy I mean when more than party have has a problem and puts in a protest against another party regarding the result of a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jicked
I don't agree with your view on geography.
The Armenian U21's played in tallaght recently and I hope an Armenian club side gets to play there too this season.
I'm sure there's some fans from Cork who travelled to the Soviet Union to watch Ararat Yerevan that might be able to help Rovers fans with Hotels and Airlines.
In other trampelled grass news Bohs fans should enjoy their trip to Wales/England.
Good luck to all the eight clubs and everyone travelling.
harpo, the 7 night packages aren't really a runner if fans wish to see their teams' league games. After Rovers would be playing a league on the Sunday after their home leg (and away leg) (unless the league changes things from the previous three years)
Dodge,
I meant 7 night package to Madiera and a 7 day advance purchase of tickets for medium-haul flights.
If costs are an issue, this reduces those issues. You keep throwing in more issues though.
Your post does remind me that Shamrock Rvs v. UCD is down for the weekend after they return from their 2nd leg on the other side of the Continient. UCD may play a game against Sligo Rovers in The Showgrounds. So UCD will be travelling for nearly the same length of time as Shamrock Rovers.
Bray Wanderers came back from there trip on the Black Sea against Trabzonspor and beat us at Belfield Park in the League Cup the day after.
Another time Roddy Collins stated UCD were "trying to pull a fast one" because we held firm on playing a league game on a Sunday, moving it back from the Friday, and not Monday as Collins wanted.
TNS will look at the tie against Bohemians as a chance to go through but will consider themselves underdogs. Their record in Europe is not very impressive but in the last few years all their ties have been close. (4-4 away goals defeat, 0-2 agg. defeat, 2-4 agg. defeat) Bohemians were probably one of the easier teams they could have got and they will be pleased to have avoided Rosenborg and others.
They actually have some decent players including Steve Evans who has 7 caps for Wales and played in the Euro 2008 qualifier between Wales and Ireland at Croke Park which we lost 1-0. Defensively they have a lot of experience and they are full-time professionals, so I don't think they will embarrass themselves. However, don't expect a huge crowd for the second leg at Park Hall. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more Bohemians fans than TNS at that.
Incidentally, they have a plastic pitch at their home ground. Could be a factor.
Don't think there many people will agree with your view on geography.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce
Or did Cork fans actually go to the wrong country?
Did rovers not go to Yerevan for the futsal?
Dundalks tie reversed....we are away on 1st July and 2nd leg now in oriel 8th July...works out better i think
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Ryanair to Frankfurt Hahn would be far cheaper, coach transfers every couple of hours. (Luxembourg is closer to the Airport than Frankfurt itself).....
You can`t miss it ... just past the Duchy on the left hand side.
Lots of advice on travel, hotels, pubs etc. on Yerevan in the Ireland forum in advance of the upcoming Euro 2012 qualifier this September.
As a summary, it'll be hot as hell (47 degrees for an evening kick off when Derry played there), expensive to get to, but worth visiting IMO.
Just booked my flight to Frankfurt-Hahn. €130 return. Out on the Wednesday, back on the Friday. Very excited.
Don't know if it's been asked already but how are TNS automatically in the 2nd round? Fantastic draw for Bohs, not too confident for the rest- very tough opposition. Travel to Armenia/Isreal for us will cost a fortune too....
both ties to be played on the Tuesdays.
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MEDIA RELEASE BOHEMIAN FC 21 JUNE 2010
Following today's draw for the qualifying rounds of the Champions League, Bohemian FC announces that it will play Welsh champions TNS (The New Saints) in Dalymount Park on Tuesday, 13th July, and away on Tuesday, 20th July.
Bohs manager Pat Fenlon described the draw as good from a travel point of view, and looked forward to a good turn-out from the Bohemian fans.
"It's important that we have the first round at home. It will not be an easy tie. They are a decent side," Fenlon said.
"We'll watch them in their friendly against Glentoran. We'll have our homework done on them by the time we meet."
I assume Glentorans friendly against TNS is in Belfast I assume..Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Only 4 teams in the first roundQuote:
Originally Posted by Buller
yes, this Saturday in the Oval.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
maritimo in action. Last home game http://www.zerozero.pt/video.php?id=63860
They are an OK team, they have a good keeper in Peçanha. I think Fingal have a chance in the Home Leg, but away from as always is a problem for LOI teams, and that maybe the factor yet again.
Maritimo fans in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9woy8k3_3kI&NR=1
TNS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmHKFyEGOjQ
looks like a plastic pitch
CS Grevanmacher - in case anyone thinks that Luxembourg teams are a walkover (bearing in mind that team have 2/3 internationals)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2nXi...eature=related
Looking at the TNS videos, they look like a big side which a good balance of pacey and powerful players. Maybe not the easy tie Bohs thought it might be. Although would still expect progression.
It`s probably the easiest tie we could have got and we`re the easiest tie they could have got. Not much between the teams I would have thought on current form. Plastic pitch looks woeful.Quote:
Originally Posted by **FrOsTy**
Looks like they're playing in a car park.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
One tiny little problem with TNS's ground - it doesn't meet UEFA Requirements.
From the 2010 UEFA Stadium Regulations:
Park Hall only has 1,000 permanent seats.Quote:
Article 16 – Stands and spectator facilities
1 Seats for spectators must be individual, fixed (e.g. to the floor), separated from one another, shaped, numbered, made of an unbreakable and non-fl ammable material and have a backrest of a minimum height of 30 cm when measured from the seat.
2 The use of temporary stands is prohibited. (Temporary stands: seating which, by virtue of its material, design and construction, is clearly intended for use for a very limited period and is not fixed to a suitable load-bearing foundation.)
3 The stadium must be equipped with refreshment and catering facilities for all spectators in every sector of the stadium.
Article 20 – Spectator capacity
In terms of spectator capacity, a stadium must meet the following requirement:
Category 1: Provide a grandstand with at least 200 seats.
Category 2: The stadium must have a capacity of at least 1,500 seats.
Category 3: The stadium must have a capacity of at least 4,500 seats.
Category 4: The stadium must have a capacity of at least 8,000 seats.
Elite: Provide at least 30,000 seats, including a minimum of 22,500 covered ones.
Just been studying details of Welsh Premier Grounds - only one of them meets the 1,500 seat minimum - and that's Rhyl...
Therefore they'll HAVE to move the game to Rhyl or Wrexham - as they can't put temporary seating in - and they're the only North Walian grounds that meets requirements.
Latham Park in Newtown (where Carmarthen dismantled Longford) just falls short - it has 1,250 permanent seats.
If they're allowed to get away with either temp seating or playing the game with only the 1,000 then it'll be a kick in the teeth for clubs like Dundalk who have spent money and time bringing their stadia up to the correct capacity
Fingal fan(s) in actionQuote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Watch out Portugal, the lads are on their way!