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12/01/2010, 2:16 PM
eL Bettor

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Originally Posted by shep

Sorry to be pernickity mate but 1/5 odds at 150s is only 30/1!!!

And due to it being each way rather than place betting, you'll have the losing "win" part of the bet so assuming they dont win the league you're only getting 15/1 on them coming 2nd or 3rd.
12/01/2010, 4:22 PM
KUFCMan

Boyles Latest Betting

7-5 Bohs
13-8 Shams
7 Fingal
11 Pats
11 Cork
16 Sligo
25 Dundalk
50 Drogs
100 Galway
100 UCD

E/W 1/5 1.2 AND 3
12/01/2010, 5:10 PM
Raheny Red

With UCD at 200/1 I'd love to see what they are at in the handicap markey.
12/01/2010, 9:04 PM
Weatherman

Fingal are an absolute steal for the title!!!!
12/01/2010, 9:19 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I'd not put us that far adrift like. I'd have us up more level with Galway and Drogs. Plenty of others around 12s and 16s who aren't that far ahead of us either at the moment (Pat's being an obvious example).

YOur odds don't represent your chances of winning. They represent the odds that PP (or JC_gufc) think will earn them the most money, with the least amount of risk.

If 50 Pats fans stick a tenner on Pats @ 12/1 and you're the only bloke sticking a tenner on UCD @ 200/1, the odds on Pats will go down. Regardless of who they sign
12/01/2010, 10:13 PM
Acornvilla

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Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

Eh when they couldn't win the first division with the squad they had last year, they'll hardly win the Premier.

well did you see rovers being as good or pats being as bad last year? stranger things have happened sir
12/01/2010, 10:38 PM
Acornvilla

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Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

Yes actually.

Rovers being bouyed by Tallaght and home support were always tipped for success, even when there were doubts over O'Neill at the time.

Pats had their budget slashed, and I never liked Kenna so..

fair enough:o
still as i said further down the threat they have experienced and tallented well capable for this level and also have the ability to improve the squad damiticly if needs be and you never know what king of spport they could drum up if the get on a good start and the european games will raise their profile also
13/01/2010, 8:49 AM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

Eh when they couldn't win the first division with the squad they had last year, they'll hardly win the Premier.

But didn't they win the cup?
13/01/2010, 8:52 AM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Dodge

YOur odds don't represent your chances of winning. They represent the odds that PP (or JC_gufc) think will earn them the most money, with the least amount of risk.

If 50 Pats fans stick a tenner on Pats @ 12/1 and you're the only bloke sticking a tenner on UCD @ 200/1, the odds on Pats will go down. Regardless of who they sign

True, I suppose.

So what the odds really show is that we've the fewest fans, and by extension the fewest fans who have an over-inflated view of our club. I can live with that. :)
13/01/2010, 9:48 AM
JC_GUFC

At this stage of the close season the odds are really a reflection on the expected squads each team will have.

Cork may be in a shambles at the minute but the fact is that very few of their players have signed for any other clubs so chances are they could have a majority of the squad that came 3rd last season.

UCD on the other hand have lost their best player and have virtually no buying power compared to the other Dublin clubs.

Even the situation at Bohs is a bit unclear and there's a chance that by the time the league starts Rovers will actually be favourites - or even Fingal!!!
13/01/2010, 10:06 AM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by JC_GUFC

UCD [...] have virtually no buying power compared to the other Dublin clubs.

On the contrary - our relative buying power is actually increasing compared to Pat's, Shels and Bray. And of course, learning is free. So if we appeared like we could be competitive last year...
13/01/2010, 11:35 AM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by Dodge

YOur odds don't represent your chances of winning.

This is something more people need to realise.
13/01/2010, 1:28 PM
Weatherman

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Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

Eh when they couldn't win the first division with the squad they had last year, they'll hardly win the Premier.

They have added to there squad already with top notch signings like Brendan Clarke (St Pat's Ath) , well he'll be 2nd choice , Ronan Finn (UCD) Ger O'Brien (Derry City) and Kenny Browne (Waterford Utd) and will sign more before the start of the season! They will get ahead of sligo anyway!!!
13/01/2010, 4:05 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by JC_GUFC

Cork may be in a shambles at the minute but the fact is that very few of their players have signed for any other clubs so chances are they could have a majority of the squad that came 3rd last season.

Unlikely.

Out of the squad/team last year we've definitely lost
-Kevin Long
-Joe Gamble
-Colin Healy
-Neal Horgan
-Denis Behan
-Gareth Cambridge
-Guntars(thank god)
-Mezeckis(didnt play much)

Out of contract and known to be looking for other clubs
-Faz
-Shane Duggan
-Billy Dennehy

Out of contract
-McNulty
-Davin O Neill

In contract and looking for other clubs
-Dan Connor

In contract and rumoured to be wanted by other clubs
-Dan Murray
-Danny Murphy

In contract with no rumours
-Stevie Sideways
-Paul Deasy(young fella)
-Stephen Mulcahy(young fella)

I really dont see how anyone could think we'l have anywhere near the same squad/team as last year and we definitely have a much reduced budget.
13/01/2010, 10:10 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by Raheny Red

With UCD at 200/1 I'd love to see what they are at in the handicap markey.

Don't remember there been one last season.
14/01/2010, 12:09 PM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

Every dog has its day.

We don't :(
14/01/2010, 12:53 PM
corkboy360

Quote:

Originally Posted by KUFCMan

Boyles Latest Betting

7-5 Bohs
13-8 Shams
7 Fingal
11 Pats
11 Cork
16 Sligo
25 Dundalk
50 Drogs
100 Galway
100 UCD

E/W 1/5 1.2 AND 3

Junkies good shot @ 11/1
But they will prob just bottle it again half way throught the season
14/01/2010, 6:59 PM
Dodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by corkboy360

Junkies good shot @ 11/1
But they will prob just bottle it again half way throught the season

Bottle it? We were in a relegation fight last year ffs
14/01/2010, 8:04 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Bottle it? We were in a relegation fight last year ffs

And you bottled relegation and stayed up.
14/01/2010, 8:15 PM
Cuyahoga

I would'nt bet on any club yet.It's seven weeks before kick off.There could be a lot of
changes yet.Wait till the pre season matches start.
15/01/2010, 11:53 AM
redobit

Pity there is no Handicap Betting on the league. Now that could be an interesting bet.
15/01/2010, 12:30 PM
MariborKev

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Originally Posted by redobit

Pity there is no Handicap Betting on the league. Now that could be an interesting bet.

Has there been any since Ladbrokes were wiped out on Derry a few years back?
15/01/2010, 10:37 PM
corkboy360

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Bottle it? We were in a relegation fight last year ffs

Where did I mention last year ? ;)
I am on bout two previous seasons when ye had great chances of winning the league ran the show for the season but still did not win the title.
16/01/2010, 12:48 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by corkboy360

Where did I mention last year ? ;)
I am on bout two previous seasons when ye had great chances of winning the league ran the show for the season but still did not win the title.

YOu mean the season we were 20/1 to win it, behind Drogheda for the last 6 months of the season and finished in our best position in nearly a decade?

Or the season where we trailed favourites Bohs all season and repeated that runners up spot?
16/01/2010, 12:26 PM
Dodge

As I've said previously

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge

YOur odds don't represent your chances of winning. They represent the odds that PP (or JC_gufc) think will earn them the most money, with the least amount of risk.

If you think Pats are underpriced, don't back them. If you think Sligo represent good value, then back them...
16/01/2010, 3:24 PM
Dodge

You can talk about it all you like. You couldn't see why pats were shorter than SLigo, so I told you.
18/01/2010, 1:03 PM
The Betting Man

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Originally Posted by Rovers fan

Call me biased

biased
18/01/2010, 2:33 PM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by Rovers fan

Call me biased but I can't see how pats are shorter odds than us?.. We were the third best side in the country after we signed new players after the transfer window last season (taking into account our league form and two cup runs). Think we have gotten most of the dead wood from last season (e.g cash who has signed for pats). Ok, so we have lost raf and probably boco (the former not being as big a loss as some might think) but we have held onto our most important player in Peers, and have signed some decent young players in Davoren, Foran, McCabe and Amond, with Turner being a quality signing. Think Drogheda should be shorter than galway too and both dundalk (with PP) and Cork are too short as well. J.

I personally think Sligo look the best value for money at this stage (cue collapse of season for them :D) but an awful lot will depend on injuries, which in my opinion ruining their season last year.
Yet to see who shams sign and very early to be calling the League. Bohs have pretty much signed all they expect to sign (and a good lot it is too) but expect a massive scramble (with so many free agents) between now and March with one or two players picked up on the cheap having a great season.
18/01/2010, 3:49 PM
KUFCMan

I like the look of St Pats
18/01/2010, 3:56 PM
KUFCMan

I like the look of St Pats at 12/1 in Pp.I think theyve signed well

Ins

Brian Cash from Sligo - cracking little player on his day
David Mcallister from Shels-midfielder with eye for goals
Alex Williams from Dundalk-will get the goals
Conor Sinnott from Wexford-probably the best player in Div 1 the last 2 seasons
Paul Byrne from Bray-decent forward when with UCD
Derek Pender from Bray-resolute defender
Ian Bermingham from Rovers-left sided defender badly needed

These are just my opinions so Im having a few quid at 12s

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