John Delaney

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Originally Posted by A face

It was a stupid comment to make, and no one can disagree with that.

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I disagree.

Lots of others on this thread, many of them LOI supporters, also disagree.

Yeah, he did say. But i would tend to go along with JC_GUFC's post.

What John Delaney said is 100 per cent true, this was much bigger than an LOI game, there were millions watching all over the world, and a place at the world cup was at stake. This was bigger than any league game, in any country, where the losing side could at least try make up for it in their next match.

So, he's says that Fingal or Sligo can't claim a replay on a wrong referee decision tomorrow? What's the profile of the game got to do with justice being served!

This man has belittled the league - his own league.

Like many others, I would also have used my own League as an example.

He was merely pointing out that each and every game that has such an incident doesn't fall into the same category as losing a place at most important football tournament there is.

There is plenty of other ammo out there to have a go at him for instead of this non-story.

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Originally Posted by MariborKev

If I had been in his position I would have used a LOI example as well. Why? Because I spend most of my time thinking about the LOI.

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So as A Derry City fan do you think games that your club play in are unimportant ? Delaney, as someone else here has pointed out, deliberately used the example of a game between two LOI sides as something that wasn't important. The problem is that this illustrates exactly where the LOI stands in his estimation. And as for the point that if he used two english teams we would complain, well I couldn't give a toss if he had. The point is, he would never have used two English teams as an example of a trivial, unimportant game, particularly not his beloved ManU.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

This is simple. In making his point, he was trying to establish a clear contrast between something that is vitally important, on one side, and, on the other, something that everyone would recognise as deeply unimportant. .

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How does anyone get that? The only contrast is between something which is much more important than something else - there's no indication he considers the league 'deeply unimportant.'

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Originally Posted by TonyD

So as A Derry City fan do you think games that your club play in are unimportant ?

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Exactly where did I say that?

do we know maybe he was talking about local club waterford bohemianss v waterford united, in waterford? :D

so it wasnt the manner in which henry cheated thats the problem its what was at stake. very well then.

but

Pointless thread imo.

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Originally Posted by Riddickcule

Pointless thread imo.

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...and so the close season begins....

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Originally Posted by baoithe

I've been reading this forum for a number of years primarily to keep an eye on the Sligo Rovers forum but also the Ireland forum.

Prior to this I have not been moved to post a reply to a thread but this thread, for me, typifies the idiotic [MOD EDIT - NOT ON FOOT.IE] that is spouted by alot of League of Ireland fans, of which I am one.

Let's make this clear, Delaneys point was a simple one: this was not a case of cheating in a League of Ireland game where the exposure to such cheating would be confined at most to supporters of both of the clubs. On the contrary, Henry's act of cheating (if you wish to call it that) was carried out on the world stage and therefore the damaging effect to football as a whole was maximised.

And he's 100% correct. Its a valid point - there isn't a soccer fan in the world that hasn't seen the handball incident in the match the other night and it is incredibly damaging to the sport to be seen to allow such things to happen without reprimand or sanction.

Just on Delaney, I've been supporting the League of Ireland since the first Sligo Rovers game I attended in the 1985-86 season against Longford. I was smitten and the League won me over over the following two weeks when we played Bohs and Derry. The latter brought an incredible crowd with them that, to a young fella, seemed to fill the showgrounds. Anyway, the league and the FAI as I've been growing up has been run like a circus. Since Delaney took over I've seen a marked improvement in the administrative structures of the association and he has overseen the implementation of a regulatory structure over the League of Ireland. Sure there have been some fudges but that is inevitable when you are trying to effect change in a political organisation such as the FAI and League of Ireland. But it is my view that if Delaney gets to finish the job he started the league will be a better place. The League this year was fantastic and the most interesting it has been in years.

Delaney has proven commercial experience which I must stress is of paramount importance if you want to run a large organisation such as the FAI. Prior to his appointment we had, for example, sales reps running the show. No offence to all who may get offended but that is a recipe for disaster and it is the reason we had the circus we had for so many years.

So give him a break. He is doing a fairly good job and to be honest lads, he's one of the few people within the game in thsi country with the intellect and desire to run the FAI.
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good post!
there is alot Delaney has done that I disagree with, but on the whole I think he has done a good job and seems to be doing better and better. I heard the interview on Matt Cooper and my initial reaction was the fact that he mentioned our league and not the epl means that it is at the forefront of his mind. In order to think that he did our league a disservice, you would have to take his comments out of context and complaining about it here just adds to the paranoia among an element of LoI supporters.

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Originally Posted by Riddickcule

Pointless thread imo.

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As opposed to 15 threads under 5/6 usernames on the same subject?

As head of the FAI wonder was Delaney at the FAI cup game, his name wasn't read out anyway. Disgraceful if he wasn't there IMHO:mad:

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

As head of the FAI wonder was Delaney at the FAI cup game, his name wasn't read out anyway. Disgraceful if he wasn't there IMHO:mad:

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Yes he was at the game but why would his name be called out?

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Originally Posted by el punter

He is NOT right on the button. He could have said - and maybe even meant to say - ''this is not a 5-a-side kickabout after work were talking about, its a world cup playoff..."

but no, without being prompted, the man with ultimate responsibility for stopping this league being a laughing stock further undermines it with a stupid throwaway remark.

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Quite right. As an 'example' of an unimportant, meaningless game he chose a fixture from the league he's supposed to be promoting! I agree that the World Cup game was huge, and, obviously, for the vast amount of people in this country of much more significance than Bohs Waterford. But the point is: he could have contrasted it with more or less ANYTHING to illustrate it's importance. The fact that he chose Bohs Waterford (twice apparently!) is very, very telling indeed. It absolutely diminishes the league. It was just a stupid thing to do. People are quite right to be angry.

It was a stupid comment to make/ example to use, and the whole "replay" nonsense is going to create a rod for the FAI's back - their too short sighted and busy playing the populist card to see it. Long term it's going to be football in this country that suffers as we won't be too long waiting for a club to call for replay citing the FAI calls as justification.

Delaney only has the interests of one stakeholder in mind when he does anything...

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

As head of the FAI wonder was Delaney at the FAI cup game, his name wasn't read out anyway. Disgraceful if he wasn't there IMHO:mad:

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He was there, RTE showed him txtin on his phone.

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Originally Posted by prince20

Yes he was at the game but why would his name be called out?

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God I dunno - maybe as CEO of the Football Association of Ireland:eek:

or maybe more likely he didnt want his name to be booed

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Originally Posted by Straightstory

Quite right. As an 'example' of an unimportant, meaningless game he chose a fixture from the league he's supposed to be promoting! I agree that the World Cup game was huge, and, obviously, for the vast amount of people in this country of much more significance than Bohs Waterford. But the point is: he could have contrasted it with more or less ANYTHING to illustrate it's importance. The fact that he chose Bohs Waterford (twice apparently!) is very, very telling indeed. It absolutely diminishes the league. It was just a stupid thing to do. People are quite right to be angry.

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On the money. if this were an isolated incident then it could be ignored as an off the cuff remark (silly but no insult intended) but it is yet another derogatory remark about the League (remember Trapps comment) he is supposed to be promoting. I fail to see how saying a match in LOI is not important in any way reflects well on the League.
Calling for different rules for "big" games is so stupid and anti football as to be derisery. I was in Paris and while gutted by the unfairness of the result accept it as part and parcel of the (sometimes not so) beautiful game.

The only complaint I would have relates to FIFA changing the rules on the playoff games (introduction of seeding). This, of course, is directly related to the "hierarcy of football" concept, different teams - different rules. Sound familar Mr Delaney ??????

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

God I dunno - maybe as CEO of the Football Association of Ireland:eek:

or maybe more likely he didnt want his name to be booed

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First of all you said it was a disgrace if he wasnt there, i confirmed that he was, now his name called out? We are all aware that he is CEO but dont see why his name should have been called out. Yesterdays match was about Sligo and Fingal. To highlight who was at the game would detract from that.

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Originally Posted by prince20

First of all you said it was a disgrace if he wasnt there, i confirmed that he was, now his name called out? We are all aware that he is CEO but dont see why his name should have been called out. Yesterdays match was about Sligo and Fingal. To highlight who was at the game would detract from that.

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Well i didn't know he was at the game, but i would have thought of all the guys called out at the start his name would have been number 1 - as head of the FAI? So why not then?

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

Well i didn't know he was at the game, but i would have thought of all the guys called out at the start his name would have been number 1 - as head of the FAI? So why not then?

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Im sure if you get on to his PA she will give you his future intended appointments just to make sure its ok with you:rolleyes: And for your second point plaese read my previous response;)

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Originally Posted by prince20

Im sure if you get on to his PA she will give you his future intended appointments just to make sure its ok with you:rolleyes: And for your second point plaese read my previous response;)

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You dont get my point - as head of FAI why was his name not read out - they even read some fellas name from Castelbar - head of Connaught assoc?

Maybe it wasn't read to avoid the inevitable moronic booing. Give the guy a break, he makes mistakes but he's an intelligent guy and could do well for this league if given the chance. He's not a man I want to see chased out.

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

Well i didn't know he was at the game, but i would have thought of all the guys called out at the start his name would have been number 1 - as head of the FAI? So why not then?

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Delaney is NOT the the "head of the FAI." The FAI President (currently David Blood) is the head of the Association. Delaney is a paid employee of the FAI, he is not elected to any position within the FAI.

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Originally Posted by harps1954

Delaney is the the "head of the FAI." The FAI President (currently David Blood) is the head of the Association. Delaney is a paid employee of the FAI, he is not elected to any position within the FAI.

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exactly, thanks:)

But why would his attendance be announced? "And at the game today is FAI CEO, John Delaney!" WTF?

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Originally Posted by Schumi

But why would his attendance be announced? "And at the game today is FAI CEO, John Delaney!" WTF?

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but surely he would have been the head honcho

like having the prez in attendance and ignoring her and introducing the head of the local county council instead:rolleyes:

im not talking about just randomly introducing to crowd - im talking at the start of game when meeting the players etc! everybody else was mentioned, about 5/6 differing people

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

im not talking about just randomly introducing to crowd - im talking at the start of game when meeting the players etc! everybody else was mentioned, about 5/6 differing people

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Oh I see, sorry. It was to avoid the inevitable booing I'd say. Mr Delaney doesn't like being booed!

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

but surely he would have been the head honcho

like having the prez in attendance and ignoring her and introducing the head of the local county council instead:rolleyes:

im not talking about just randomly introducing to crowd - im talking at the start of game when meeting the players etc! everybody else was mentioned, about 5/6 differing people

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Now i have you. He wasnt brought out onto the pitch to meet the players prior to the game and please dont ask why not!!:D

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

im not talking about just randomly introducing to crowd - im talking at the start of game when meeting the players etc! everybody else was mentioned, about 5/6 differing people

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But Delaney didn't go out onto the pitch to meet the players. He never has in any game.

Finally:)
Anyway lucky I didn't bump into him :cool:

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

Finally:)
Anyway lucky I didn't bump into him :cool:

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Perhaps if you asked was he on the pitch in your opening post we could have answered earlier;)why was he lucky you didnt bump into him?

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Originally Posted by prince20

Perhaps if you asked was he on the pitch in your opening post we could have answered earlier;)why was he lucky you didnt bump into him?

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sorry just took it for granted that this was shown on tv or you looked at the pre-game shakey hands of players stuff that goes on in football

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Originally Posted by harps1954

Delaney is NOT the the "head of the FAI." The FAI President (currently David Blood) is the head of the Association. Delaney is a paid employee of the FAI, he is not elected to any position within the FAI.

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As a matter of curiousity was David Blood at the game

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...318259016.html

Good article on Delaney.
While I don't think the man can be blamed for our miserable showing at the euros he has been running the organisation for nearly a decade now and I really can't see what he has achieved in that time apart from a big salary.
He can hardly take any credit for the redevelopment of Lansdowne road and qualifying for a first tournament in 10 years is more down to other people suggesting Trap and picking up the bill.

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Originally Posted by Uncle_Joe

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...318259016.html

Good article on Delaney.
While I don't think the man can be blamed for our miserable showing at the euros he has been running the organisation for nearly a decade now and I really can't see what he has achieved in that time apart from a big salary.
He can hardly take any credit for the redevelopment of Lansdowne road and qualifying for a first tournament in 10 years is more down to other people suggesting Trap and picking up the bill.

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Excellent article and hopefully will encourage the sychophants around Delaney to actually look at his tenure. Be it the Limerick /Barcelona debacle (surely the only assosiation in the world to turn away Barcalona ?) to the wreckage that is our national league.

While it is unfair (however enjoyable) to hold him responsible for all our woes there is little doubt the image is that managing Irish football is about organising a **** up and sing song with the fans after yet another "glorious effort" (translates as LOSS). The fact only this week that he (and the clowns around him) were caught unawares of the demise of Monaghan as a LOI team show an administration completley out of touch. The appointment of Trap was down to Denis O'Briens largesse (Trap had been ruled out prior to O'Brien intervention. And who can forget his appointment of his pal Steve "the gaffer" Staunton ?

The new Lansdowne happened as much despite the FAI as because of them (remember the ticketing farce ? It really does become difficult to see any achievement due to Delaney and the FAI.

By all means pay what people are worth but I think you would have difficulty finding anyone (except himself) to agree that is curerently the case.

What if the CEO of another competing European association had carried on in the same fashion as he did in Sopot? He'd have been sacked long since. But hey this is Ireland where unaccountability is something we're tuly world class at. IMO he has to go but I have no doubt he has surrounded himself with yes men who will stick up for him or else.