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Originally Posted by punkrocket
They are Dead?
Your actually an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reality Bites
Using WW2 to attack the French over being spineless?
You do realise Ireland was neutral?
I wouldnt worry about it. Most of this "French" football team arent French anyway. African B team. A crunching tackle for his troubles awaits that tool for his remarks.
Diarra was probably upset after playing a terrible game.
Andrews to score from a Diarra mistake anyone?
Alas you are probably right not the right forum for such talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Da Real Rover
But in my Defence the French wartime leadership was abundantly weaker than Churchills and the puppet Vichy government proves this. some historian believe the French never really recovered from 1815.
Again what relevance this has to Wednesday night I am not sure and the fact that Diarra is a product of french imperalism makes the issue even greyer... keep this up and I might get David Kellys job in the Indo.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/nov/16/france
Or maybe it is relevant after all.
and you do realise France was invaded by the Germans and Ireland was not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Da Real Rover
When the Gemrans rolled in the French rolled over.....FACT.
In fairness Churchill was a c*nt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reality Bites
From an Irish perspective yes.. but in the grand scheme of things Hitler was a far bigger **** and it needed a bully to stand up to a Bully.. wait a minute we are getting closer to an analogy with the Andrews Diarra issue the only difference being Diarra is a **** and Andrews isn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
We haven't given the French a good hammering since the Peninsular War. It's long overdue.
cheese eating surrender monkeys....we'll see who's laughing wednesday!!
Why are people talking about WWII? I just hope Andrews crunches into Diarra. If it's the 91st minute and France are ahead Andrews has nothing to lose. Upend the little pr**k and make sure he doesnt get up!
I remember watching Celtic playing Porto in the Uefa cup final a few years ago and hoping someone (Neil Lennon) would absolutely destroy the keeper towards the end as he had cheated Celtic out of the game....
sure we live in hope and pray :)
If Diarra really did say this then surely the FAI have a duty to report it as racism? Some members of the French squad have been open in support of kicking racism out of football and I'd be quite happy to see Diarra kicked out of football on a 5 game ban which would see him miss the group stages of the finals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
what's racist about it?
If he called him an Irish p rick, then it's hardly racism is it?
calling someone an Irish ***** is deemed racist these days even though it doesnt refer to anyones skin colour. Eric Cantana was on a anti racism advert some years back recalling how he was abused for being French.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
well if trap says he "insulted a country" then that would suggest racism, normally i wouldnt care about reporting it but hopefully the little git will get a ban for the first few world cup games if we cant beat them in paris
I'm a froggy.
I hate some of my compatriot (especially tourists). I find us very pretentious, never happy and we know everything on every subject. We never wrong. Never.
In the other part, I like my country for different reason: F*****ng great food (cheese, wine), the women, the culture and for many other clichés...
For information, during the WW2 my grandfather has spent a "little time" on nazi's prisonner camp. He escaped from it to London, (at his return his weight was 70 pound). So not all the french are "surrenders monkeys" but a huge part is cheese eater!
I like ireland and irish. I have always spent wonderful moments on your country. Never meet nasty people (except on the roads). Always warm welcoming, always helpful. For me it is probably the best place on earth. (except dublin).
And I know too that your country is not a "paradise" for other reasons.
So I go back to football.
If Diarra says something bad about Irish people Irish staff must denounce that to the FIFA authorities and that's all.
I wish you "bonne chance" for wenesday and don't forget it's only football.
Allez les bleus!!!!
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Originally Posted by LeBleu
Merci Beaucoup LeBleu. Allez les vertes!
I don't think calling someone an Irish pr**k is racist nor would I consider someone being called a French pr*ck racist.
For me it becomes racist if a French fella called an Irish guy a potato-eating car-bombing Mick or something along those lines....an ignorant stereotype. or an Irish guy calling a French fella an onion-wielding, stripy-jumpered, garlic-munching frog etc etc
Calling someone an Irish pr*ck is merely stating their nationality and then that person's feelings about him....
So i hope Andrews annihalates him :)
Diarra said today that Andrews knows where he can meet him if he wants. I expect complete fireworks in the first five minutes. Let us give Diarra a good welcome from Ireland.
There will be blood!
No surrender! Which is ironic coming from a FrenchmanQuote:
Originally Posted by Pauro 76
Solid wall of boos's but it is the last thing I want the players to be thinking about. Fair enough if they wind him up in to acting but we have to hope that any action from our guys is done with the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by carloz
These incidents can be used to aid focus, kind of an inward targetted anger.
I would remember it for the rest of my life if we can put one over them on Wednesday.
Very difficult tactical one fro both managers. expect a very cautious start from both sides no matter what is said pre-match. Trap will not want to give away anything and France will want to hold on to what they have.
Expect a 4-5-1 from France?
There were two Diarras playing for France.
The one I believe has caused all the trouble is the smaller one.
The one that looks like he's wearing a bicycle helmut!
As good as it is, I don't see how a film about oil is going to help us. Unless it's a metaphor for oiling our gears to up the pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by noddy102
You're probably technically correct, but there's certainly some underlying racial tension in a phrase like that. Otherwise, why not just call your theoretical French and Irish men the pejorative and dispense with the nationalities?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Ah come off it John.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
It might be some other things but it's definitely not racist.
LeBleu, we feel the same about DUblin :D
If a friend of mine from the US spontaneously gave me a present, would I call him or her "a generous American"? A phrase like "Irish *****" uses "Irish" in a pejorative sense. That you consider it normal enough that you're incredulous I consider using someone's nationality as a negative racist says more about the casual racism you've been exposed to than any oversensitivity on my part. I'm not saying that it's the worst thing in the world, or that it should result in a footballer being banned, but it's racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
I hope Andrews breaks that ****ing ****e's legs on Wednesday.
If I call someone a "Cork langer" or a "Tipp ******" at a GAA match am I being racist against people from Cork and Tipperary?Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Anyway, people often put someone's nationality in front of a positive descriptive word. Italian stallion and so forth.
http://www.mingeford365.co.uk/forum/.../icon_uhoh.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by galwayjames
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Originally Posted by galwayjames
Excellent idea. Red card for Andrew.
Advantage France.
Le Bleu, I love the French...but I hope Andrews does hurt Diarra.He is a disgrace, and there has been no apology from the French camp as far as I knowQuote:
Originally Posted by LeBleu
Because they're a bunch of Tan wannabes on here. Never hear much about the 'honourable retreat' out of Dunkirk for three years waiting behind 23 miles of water for Uncle Sam to turn up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
It obviously isn't the same as 'White' pr*ck, but any insulting term that uses nationality, religion, or sexuality as a pejorative IMO would be deemed in the same category as calling someone a black or white so and so, by FIFA. Examples: Cantona, Zidane and Sol Campbell.Quote:
Originally Posted by twoenz
If Mary O'Rourke had claimed that her campaign staff had worked like Kerrymen, would she have gotten the attention she did?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
That example is simple rhyme, which makes it memorable. I'm struggling to think of another which isn't.Quote:
Anyway, people often put someone's nationality in front of a positive descriptive word. Italian stallion and so forth.
My god but people are very precious
Yes but what he say ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Den Perry
Sure he must be punished if he say racist thing but I don't think it's the better way to break is leg.
It will be so stupid like a Zidane headbutt.