well when the alternative in the squad at the moment is Miller Id be very scaredQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
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well when the alternative in the squad at the moment is Miller Id be very scaredQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
ireland 1-0....either dunne or keane to score,who else sure!!
Believe it or not I considered that before posting my comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Id have a lad that has played consistantly in the Premiership this season and last ahead of a lad that took 4 months to find a club... although admitidly his form does seem to be good by all accounts since he has found one.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Still though, I think Whelan was excellent against Italy last time and he deserves his place in the team at the moment
Don't rate him at all so far, for club or country. That Italy match was a midfielders dream* the way they retreated and didn't pressure the ball, but credit where it's due, it was his best match for us. I'm not saying I'd have Miller ahead of him, I just wouldn't care if he was suspended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
*PS: When I say a midfielders dream, I mean a midfielder like Whelan or Gibson who look scared to get a hold of the ball, obviously it would be a more creative midfielders nightmare. Gibson also looked useful when he came on that night I thought.
3-0 Italy, with 11 men.
Ah but we had Paul McShane... which was effectively playing with 10 men too.Quote:
Originally Posted by weldoninhio
when is the last time we lost a compeditive home game by that score?Quote:
Originally Posted by weldoninhio
Australia, but a friendly... I reckon this will be another game of chess, I expect Trap to play very direct if Italy go ahead, like last time.. Thats why I was very surprised that Andy Reid wasn't included in the squad. A last ten minute bombardment of their box supplied by Reid might be necessary! Instead of hoofed balls by Dunne.
put their 22 by our 22 (?) and it should be 3-0, easy.
Football is a funny ol game and if Italy come here not properly focussed they might be in for a rude awakening....
all that said, ill go with 1-1 (a safe bet for an Irish game - :D )
Expected Italy line up according to this arcticle:
Buffon
Zambrotta Legrottaglie Chiellini Grosso
De Rossi Palombo
Camoranesi Pirlo Iaquinta
Gilardino
De Rossi. Oy. Bombs away.
4-0 Italy. I think we're due for a hiding. I still see us getting into the play off no problem after a win at home to Montenegro.
all this optimism is a joy to behold....
I reckon bulgaria to beat cyprus, Italy then to beat us 1-0,
nerves get the better of us and we go and lose at home too monty on wednesday, thereby finishing 3rd in the group and left with nothing but a horrible taste in our mouths!!
Worst case scenario I know but someone had to bring this thread down to earth ;)
Italy to coast home 2 nil.
Claudio Marchisio is out injured.
Anyone know if you can pay at the gates going in? I want to see this one but cant go to the game the following wednesday, can you buy tickets seperate?
not a chance of them taking cash at the gate but there would probably be a few tickets floating around up thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Splurge
I fear a situation like that, where we play well against Italy and are unlucky to lose, with us getting a goal against montenegro early enough and then sitting back deeper and deeper and maybe conceding, maybe not..... God I hope I'm not right.... I just want Cyprus to do us a favour on Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by hunt4the
Do yellows carry over into the play offs or are they scrubbed after the group stages? ....... as I fully expect us to be there.Quote:
Can someone please remind me who's on a yellow going into the Monty game?
I think they are scrubbed, not 100% sure though
As far as I'm aware, cards carry over into the playoffs, but once qualification is secured, everybody is given clean slates for the tournament (unless they have been suspended in advance).Quote:
Originally Posted by punkrocket
Is there anyway to get a ticket for just the Italy game then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
there are always people with spare ones around the pubsQuote:
Originally Posted by Splurge
IT looks lke Lawerence might get the nod instead of Hunt as that was the setup in both training session's wed' and Thursday?
Trap seems to prefer starting Hunt in the away games, for his work-rate. He will certainly get the crowd going if he does come off the bench in Croker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
1-1 & I'm so glad I'm able to make it after a bout of illness.
We'll score early and then not go outside our own half for the rest of the game before conceding a deflected shot in injury time. I don't think you can play both Hunt and McGeady in the same team. Both inconsistent and liable to lose the ball at any moment. If the team concentrate (Kilbane needs a big game), don't concede silly fouls in danger areas and frustrate then a draw is feasible. If we concede early and look sloppy from the get go then we're in trouble.
shaker come down to kates, be good to put a name to the face, plus the CDs are great that babysis has made :D
I might pop in tonight and have a look around! Get in at 8.30pm and will test the body to see if it is able to drink some guinness before the big day tomorrow. Somebody was telling me there is some Germany beer festival on at the moment with maids serving beer?! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
reading around the reports, the management seem to favour Lawrence over McGeady because of his physicality against Grosso. To be honest, you'd have to agree with them, Grosso is 6"3 and a tank, McGeady is 5"10, and slight.
As someone mentioned earlier can you imagine going into the Montenegro game needing a win with a midfield of Miller and Rowlands if Whelan and Andrews pick up bookings against Italy (quite likely the way Whelan tackles). I wouldn't be able to watch.
Yes it's Lawerence, i for one think it's long overdue, although in such a big game and to leave out Hunt not sure, maybe if it doesn't work then no better player than Hunt to come on and to really have a go at the Italian's, maybe it does make since
Here is the team
Shay Given, John O'Shea, Richard Dunne, Sean St Ledger, Kevin Kilbane, Liam Lawrence, Glenn Whelan, Keith Andrews, Aidan McGeady, Kevin Doyle, Robbie Keane.
Hunt can be brought on as in Bari. Lawrence to score from a free kick or header.
Apart from Kilbane starting and Andy Reids exclusion Im happy with that team. I like the thinking of Lawrence ahead of Hunt and I always prefer Hunt coming on as a sub to inject a bit of energy if we need itQuote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Thats a really attacking team from trap, its been a while since ive been this excited about a starting line up. The set piece delivery from lawrence will add so much to our game and make us much more of a threat throughout, he also holds onto the ball much better than hunt, great decision from trap
It's weird that a team can look decent enough under a good manager and the same team can look shaky with a poor manager in charge.
Happy enough with that selection - the team almost picks itself now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Duff a big loss through injury but I'm happy to see Lawrence get the nod.
Duff has an understanding with Keane that can't be matched - eg, home goal against Cyprus, 2nd goal away to Cyprus.
I'd like to see Best introduced at some stage - he's got an urgency but a level of composure with it, that could unsettle the Italians.
and hes in great goalscoring form at the momentQuote:
Originally Posted by Wolfie
I'm happy with Lawrence as well. It's a big occasion for him though, bigger than anything he's done before I'd imagine.It gives the side a better balance too with McGeady certainly doing his best work cutting in from the left. Like somebody else said it should also help us retain possession a bit better and Hunt is a super option from the bench, should we need him.
I can see this match being a real boring one. The way the both teams play is painfully boring. Probably a 0-0. Hope I'm wrong.