Israel (Away) Sat 26th Mar 05

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Originally Posted by Junior

whats the craic with getting yer passport stamped. Have heard it can cause you problems when trying to get in to other countries, anyone got any more info on this?? :confused:

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You certainly would not have got into Iran with an Israeli stamp.

I believe Saudi and a few others won't let you in either. The Israelis used to just stick a page in which can be removed but I'm not sure if that is still the case. I intend to check it out

I met 2 Dutch guys who were travelling in the Middle East, Israelis did not stamp the passport but their youth hosteling card showed they had visited Israel, were driven to the border at 2am by Syrian secret police and dumped out.

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Originally Posted by gspain

You certainly would not have got into Iran with an Israeli stamp.

I believe Saudi and a few others won't let you in either. The Israelis used to just stick a page in which can be removed but I'm not sure if that is still the case. I intend to check it out

I met 2 Dutch guys who were travelling in the Middle East, Israelis did not stamp the passport but their youth hosteling card showed they had visited Israel, were driven to the border at 2am by Syrian secret police and dumped out.

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a guy I know had to go to Tel aviv for work purposes and he asked them not to stamp his passport as he had to travel around alot for his work. He said they were ok about this. Its always nice to get a stamp in the passport, but it prob won't be worth the aggro on this one...........

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Originally Posted by Junior

Its always nice to get a stamp in the passport, but it prob won't be worth the aggro on this one...........

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I got a load of hassle going to the US because I had Egypt and Cyprus stamps on my passport. Had loads of great stamps from other countries and a cool visa for India. Had to replace my passport at Christmas so all I've got now is Switzerland. Guess I wont be getting a complete set of away game stamps so then :)

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Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

Hey lads, just curious . . . BA ballsed up on my trip home from the Olympics and they've given me two tickets to anywhere they fly to in Europe as compo.

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Israel isn't in Europe. :)

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Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

Don't know much about Israel really.

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Here's your first lesson on Israel.
1. It's Not In Europe!

Erm...Israel isn't in...Europe. :D

lesson two: its a murderous organisation which specialises in genocide, murder of innocents (children a speciality), and doing whatever it wnats in the name of "national security."

Oh yeah, and its not really their country, they stole it by blowing the palestinians out of their homes with american help. quite a nasty shower really

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Originally Posted by gspain

I hope the Israel home game does not become a target for protestors.

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I would certainly hope it does. Any right thinking person has a duty to show the representatives of that state how they feel about their genocide against the palestinians.

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Originally Posted by Éanna

Oh yeah, and its not really their country, they stole it by blowing the palestinians out of their homes with american help. quite a nasty shower really

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Well, to be honest it was the Brits again in 1948 but supported by the yanks since.

We have to protest at the home match. Palestinian flags throughout. Killing Palestinian children day in day out is wrong. What message do we send if we allow them over without any protests? The right of the minority (and the tiny minority) is more important than the less priviliged majority.

And we shouldn't travel away.

Tiocfaidh arab la!

But enough politics....Paris here we come.

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Originally Posted by Éanna

lesson two: its a murderous organisation which specialises in genocide, murder of innocents (children a speciality), and doing whatever it wnats in the name of "national security."

Oh yeah, and its not really their country, they stole it by blowing the palestinians out of their homes with american help. quite a nasty shower really

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Lesson three. The proper title of the country is 'Zionist Occupied Palestine.' Please forgive me for using the I word before. Yes, I'm certainly up for some Palestinian flags at this game. It's the only one at home I'm aiming to get a ticket for, although I'm sure there'll be enough 'it's only sport, lads, FFS' a*seholes trying to put a dampener on things.

BTW, not that I'm an Ameriphile, but the Russians and Czechs were probably more keen on the setting up of this faux state. Probably the Germans too as it finished off what they started by getting rid of most Jews from W. Europe. Yes they 'stole' it alright...well perhaps received stolen property off the UN and the British. They should have been given a large chunk of Bavaria or Kazahkstan instead.

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Originally Posted by lopez

Lesson three. The proper title of the country is 'Zionist Occupied Palestine.' Please forgive me for using the I word before. Yes, I'm certainly up for some Palestinian flags at this game. It's the only one at home I'm aiming to get a ticket for, although I'm sure there'll be enough 'it's only sport, lads, FFS' a*seholes trying to put a dampener on things.

BTW, not that I'm an Ameriphile, but the Russians and Czechs were probably more keen on the setting up of this faux state. Probably the Germans too as it finished off what they started by getting rid of most Jews from W. Europe. Yes they 'stole' it alright...well perhaps received stolen property off the UN and the British. They should have been given a large chunk of Bavaria or Kazahkstan instead.

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Mental Notes

1) Don't get on a bus in Israel - particularly if Lopez or Eanna are on it. :D

2) Glad the away game is first - if the planned protests do come off at the home game.

BTW I rang the embassy earlier this week - ther eis no problem getting into Israel with an Iranian visa on your passport however you may well be asked to explain it. The Israelis will stamp your passport and this means it is unlikely you'll be allowed to enter an Arab country again using that passport.

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Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

their cities are listed on BA's European network. .

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You're laughing so.
I didn't think BA would list them as a European destination and that's what I was trying to point out. I'll probably get the flights I posted earlier on this thread. Let me know how you get on with BA.

bargain............just booked it


£201.40 http://www.alitalia.co.uk/ no booking fee

depart LHR 25/3/05 6am
arr Tel Aviv 3.20pm

return 4.30am 27/3/05
arrive LHR 11.25am

both flights via Milan with a 1 hour change

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Originally Posted by slow2anger

bargain............just booked it
£201.40 no booking fee

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I might splash out and pay the extra £12 for the afternoon flight on the Sunday.

BTW interestingly Israel got 38,000 on Saturday for the Swiss game. The stadium holds 42,000 which means we will only get 4,200 tickets.

I don't think the Israelis will be as keen as the French to post tickets to Ireland even if they do a public sale.

With Israel right in the shakeup now this game is sure to sellout.

Hard to know if we will bring 4,200 fans though. I think we will unless the Travel Agents get free access again to explain how dangerous the place is and it is only safe to go on organised trips.

BTW the €375 + tax flight was still available yesterday it is Czech Airlines

OK671 24/3 Dub - Pra 12.30-4pm
OK286 24/3 Pra Tel aviv 11.59-6am

OK287 27/3 Tel aviv - Pra 7.05am-09.15am
OK674 27/3 Pra Dub 10.10-11.45am

Only 33 went from switzerland

Everyone going should bring a Palistinian flags keep them covered untill the match starts....

Might **** 'em off

in most "democratic" countries you could be arrested for incitement to riot for that. In Israel they'd probably shoot you or stick you in jail for several years without trial. good idea though :)

http://www.swiss.com/web/IE6/tg-to-so-ie-october-fares?


This is an example of fares direct from Dublin to Israel. March dates not up yet but will be after xmas.

330 euro direct to Israel unreal i think

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Originally Posted by gspain

With Israel right in the shakeup now this game is sure to sellout.

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Wouldn't have thought so considering there were only 2,000 in Switzerland.This being far futher from home and seen as having possible risk involved I can't imagine more than 1k.Although on the other hand Paris may have wetted the appetite for many away trip debutants...

Been on ebay looking for a second hand flak jacket, no joy.

If you went to the match in Theran, and youve still got the same passport (ie the visa etc is still in it)... well I'd try and get a new one before you go to Israel.

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Originally Posted by Beavis

Wouldn't have thought so considering there were only 2,000 in Switzerland.This being far futher from home and seen as having possible risk involved I can't imagine more than 1k.Although on the other hand Paris may have wetted the appetite for many away trip debutants...

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No way Israel will make 1K. These p*ss ups near home on a weekend will always get the part-timers over. Anyway, for all the talk of the fans in Paris what about the 500 Faroes supporters! I think I heard on Sky that they have a population of 50K. That means one per cent of the population were in Ireland on Wednesday night. :eek:

true and 10% of that would have been made up of players, manager-trainers, etc.

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Originally Posted by Beavis

...This being far futher from home and seen as having possible risk involved I can't imagine more than 1k....

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Plus the fact it is Easter weekend!

Not sure if it is true but heard recently that FAIrleand have indicated to Israelis that they are only likely to require 600 tickets.

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Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo

If you went to the match in Theran, and youve still got the same passport (ie the visa etc is still in it)... well I'd try and get a new one before you go to Israel.

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No problem with having Iran visa getting into Israel. The problem is getting into some Arab countries with an Israeli stamp on passport (which is why Israelis will provide stamp on a separate sheet so it is not permanently on your Passport).

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Originally Posted by petef

Been on ebay looking for a second hand flak jacket, no joy.

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Second hand, as in "used"?
Wonder if it had worked and the bullets are still in it!?
Hope they cleaned it if it didn't work.... :eek: :D

Not sure if mentioned previously but Czech Airlines fly from Glasgow via Prague for 300 quid to Tel Aviv.

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Originally Posted by Éanna

in most "democratic" countries you could be arrested for incitement to riot for that. In Israel they'd probably shoot you or stick you in jail for several years without trial. good idea though :)

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Too true, their humor might not stretch that far.

Ah the return leg in Ireland will be the time....

Hi friends,

I just discovered this fantastic forum & I realy love it :)
My name is Eldad and I'm an Irish citizen who live in Tel-Aviv (I was born here, but my dad has immigrated from Dublin)... So ask me whatever you want to know about Israel, or specificly about Tel-Aviv.

I promise I'll be in the green stands in Ramat-Gan stadium at March!
I just started my "research" about how to purchase tickets for the Irish stands in Tel-Aviv (because here I can't do that)... So if you know how to help me, I'll would be grateful!

See you on March !!!

Shalom El Echem, Eldad (Hopefully that's right :o ).

Welcome to this board. Always interesting to find more far-sprung members of the Irish diaspora here. If you're after a ticket for the Irish end, try the FAI at info@fai.ie for tickets for this game (passport number should secure a ticket). Won't be going myself but was in the Bloomfield Stadium 20 years ago when Ireland first played in Tel Aviv. Great country: Shame about your prime minister there ;) (sorry if any offence, but I was born in England and you're welcome to diss the present PM here to your heart's content :D ).

Thank you Lopez,

We are more than 10 people that plan to join the green fans, some of them don't hold an Irish passport...

BTW, about cheap flight:
If someone of you would like to arrive from London or Manchester, just be informed that Turkish Airlines operate very frequent flight between Istanbul and Tel-Aviv, and that's a very good airlines (I flow with them to Singapore). They have flight between Istanbul to London and Manchester.

If need more help about flight to Israel, I know all airlines that fly to here because I work in the Airport!

BTW, any of your friends descended from Cork people? Conchita (the quare one/ball and chain/love of my life/air that I breath/wife :D ) comes from an area in the city where there used to a large Jewish Community but they all either went to Israel or the States when she grew up there.

More important information:
The game will be at Saturday evening.
Be aware of there is no public transportation (apart of taxis) from Friday (at about 4:00pm) to Saturday (at about 6:00pm), because of the importance of the rest day (Saturday) for the Israeli people. Sunday is a regular day in Israel.

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Originally Posted by lopez

BTW, any of your friends descended from Cork people? Conchita (the quare one/ball and chain/love of my life/air that I breath/wife :D ) comes from an area in the city where there used to a large Jewish Community but they all either went to Israel or the States when she grew up there.

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I'm sorry... I don't know anyone from Cork :(

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Originally Posted by Eldad

I'm sorry... I don't know anyone from Cork :(

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Some people on here would say you're lucky. :D Not me though! :eek:

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Originally Posted by Eldad

More important information:
The game will be at Saturday evening.
Be aware of there is no public transportation (apart of taxis) from Friday (at about 4:00pm) to Saturday (at about 6:00pm), because of the importance of the rest day (Saturday) for the Israeli people. Sunday is a regular day in Israel.

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Eldad, any information is useful but I am sure you will appreciate there is not likely to be any great demand for using buses around Tel Aviv. At times, we paddies can be thick, but not that stupid!

We had 4,000-5,000 in Basle - On 2nd thoughts 4,000 is optimistic all right to bring to Tel Aviv.

Eldad can you let us know when/where the U21 game is likely to be? If it is the Friday (assume it has to be) then will it kickoff befo0re sundown on the Sabbath.

Even the kickoff time for the Swiss U21 game and venue would be a help.

Had an idea that the Shabbat (lived in Hendon briefly; worked for three years in Golders Green) would be a prob re shops but didn't know the whole country shut down. I avoided Saturday on my visit there so had no experience. :eek: That means no bars from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday. :eek: :eek: Next you'll be saying that you can't pick up a Galty style Pig-fest breakfast for love nor money! :eek:

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Originally Posted by gspain

We had 4,000-5,000 in Basle - On 2nd thoughts 4,000 is optimistic all right to bring to Tel Aviv.

Eldad can you let us know when/where the U21 game is likely to be? If it is the Friday (assume it has to be) then will it kickoff befo0re sundown on the Sabbath.

Even the kickoff time for the Swiss U21 game and venue would be a help.

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Well, we have to wait till March for knowing the final desicion for the u-21 teams match... But Israel u-21 usually play in the stadium of Herzliyya, which is about 10 minutes drive north of Tel-Aviv.

You don't need to be worry about Shabbat. All restrants, places of entertainment & some shops at city centre are open in Shabbat!
Tel-Aviv is called "a non-stop city" because the city centre is active 24 hours a day. Friday night is the night when when young Israel used to be drunken in pubs. Ben-Yehuda St' is a street of pubs, there you can find some Irish pubs.