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30/07/2009, 11:01 AM
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Republic of Ireland manager, Giovanni Trapattoni, has today (Thursday, July 30th) named a 24 man squad to face Australia in Thomond Park on Wednesday, August 12th.

Included in the squad are Wolves duo, Kevin Foley and Kevin Doyle, while local born players, Eddie Nolan (Waterford), Liam Miller (Cork), Shane Long (Tipperary), Stephen Hunt (Waterford) and John O’Shea (Waterford) are also named.

Trapattoni also announced that three players have been placed on stand-by for the visit of Australia: Alex Bruce, Damien Delaney and Steven Reid.

Speaking at the announcement, Giovanni Trapattoni said, “This upcoming friendly against Australia in Thomond Park in Limerick is of utmost importance to our side as it acts as our final game ahead of our World Cup qualifier against Cyprus in Nicosia in September. Australia, who have already qualified for the World Cup, will provide a stern test for the team as Pim Verbeek and his team have advanced through the Asian World Cup qualifiers undefeated in the final qualification phase.

“I am looking forward to playing an international friendly of this stature at the magnificent Thomond Park in Limerick. I am aware of the proud sporting culture in Limerick and I am sure that the people of Munster will get behind the team for this game.”

Tickets for the Republic of Ireland friendly against Australia on August 12th are now on sale. Tickets are available through Ticketmaster and are on sale in outlets throughout Munster and Connaught.

Tickets for this match are available for €25 (South terrace), €35 (East and West terrace) and €55 (East and West stands).

Republic of Ireland Squad
Goalkeepers
Shay Given Manchester City
Kieren Westwood Coventry City
Joe Murphy Scunthorpe United

Defenders
John O'Shea Manchester United
Kevin Foley Wolves
Richard Dunne Manchester City
Stephen Kelly Fullham
Kevin Kilbane Hull City
Eddie Nolan Preston North End
Sean St. Ledger Preston North End

Midfielders
Aiden McGeady Celtic
Damien Duff Newcastle United
Darron Gibson Manchester United
Glenn Whelan Stoke City
Keith Andrews Blackburn Rovers
Liam Miller Unattached
Stephen Hunt Reading
Andy Keogh Wolves
Liam Lawrence Stoke City

Forwards
Caleb Folan Hull City
Kevin Doyle Wolves
Robbie Keane Tottenham Hotspur
Shane Long Reading
Leon Best Coventry City
30/07/2009, 11:02 AM
tetsujin1979

beaten to it

no great shocks, apart from Miller's inclusion despite being "unattached"
30/07/2009, 11:09 AM
MeathDrog

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

beaten to it

no great shocks, apart from Miller's inclusion despite being "unattached"

Why the feck was he called up?
30/07/2009, 11:12 AM
Crosby87

Liam Miller? :rolleyes:
Why would you not include James McCarthy in a friendly squad like this, let him come along and get some experience in it, hang with the guys.....
30/07/2009, 11:31 AM
paul_oshea

stephen reid and steve finnan not included , understandable i spose given injuries they have had, however i see reid getting in for cyprus but not finnan.

Makes you think if we did have finnan, reid and ireland though.....

He is keeping things consistent and keeping the main core together, thats a good idea i believe, no point in bringing mccarthy in yet because he isn't going to make an impact and he could be keeping someone out that has been there from the off, upsetting the atmosphere a little. Trap isn't just building a football team he is building a happy family. Good idea in the case of a play-off where lads will give everything for the team, fans themselves, but most importantly their team-mates. Nothing more important than willing to die for your team mates in a play-off game.
30/07/2009, 11:31 AM
Thommo

Agree can't believe McCarthy hasn't been called in it's not the same rubbish again as Reid too creative to be included.
Miller he's not even with a club what a joke, thought Stephen Ward might get a call up considering he had an outstanding season at Wolves primarily as a left back and there now in premiership so surely the lads confidence would be sky high, would be a good utility man to have in the squad alo.
30/07/2009, 11:35 AM
eirebhoy

No changes from the last squad.
30/07/2009, 11:41 AM
wexfordned

Brian Murphy despite being outstanding for Bohs this season again including both champions league games has been left out again. It's clear now he will have to wait until he moves to England, plays half a dozen or so games & suddenly becomes good enough
30/07/2009, 11:44 AM
jbyrne

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

Brian Murphy despite being outstanding for Bohs this season again including both champions league games has been left out again. It's clear now he will have to wait until he moves to England, plays half a dozen or so games & suddenly becomes good enough

yaawn
30/07/2009, 11:47 AM
Stuttgart88

Nolan ahead of O'Dea surprises me. I think O'Dea is better.

I don't like Miller but he was good at Craven Cottage.

I don't see the rush with McCarthy, I really don't. I like Garvan but Gibson is similar and I like McCann but Andrews is very similar.

The immediate priority is to win a huge game in September and this is what the friendly should be about. We then play big games in October and November.

The future can wait until after that as far as I'm concerned.
30/07/2009, 11:49 AM
youngirish

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

Brian Murphy despite being outstanding for Bohs this season again including both champions league games has been left out again. It's clear now he will have to wait until he moves to England, plays half a dozen or so games & suddenly becomes good enough

Personally I'm more upset that McCarthy, McCann or Fahey have not been included at the expense of Miller and Keogh (who is not a midfielder) than to be particularly worried about who is occupying our third choice keeper position and never realistically going to get on the pitch anyway.
30/07/2009, 12:13 PM
rambler14

Any player who is "unattached" shouldn't be in the squad.
30/07/2009, 12:15 PM
MeathDrog

Fahey should be in ahead of Miller, or anyone at this rate. He's cack.
30/07/2009, 12:19 PM
centre mid

I honselty cant see where Miller fits into the squad, He is not going to start any qualifiers and frankly the way Trap sets up his team doesnt allow for a player like Miller i.e. a flair player who has no flair and no club. I can understand Finnan not being included but would asume that there was communication and that if fit he will be in the squad for the qualifiers.
30/07/2009, 12:22 PM
endabob1

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Originally Posted by rambler14

Any player who is "unattached" shouldn't be in the squad.

The last time we were at a world cup one of our first choice centre backs & goalscorer extrordanaire Garry Breen was unattached
30/07/2009, 12:23 PM
centre mid

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Originally Posted by youngirish

Personally I'm more upset that McCarthy, McCann or Fahey have not been included at the expense of Miller and Keogh (who is not a midfielder) than to be particularly worried about who is occupying our third choice keeper position and never realistically going to get on the pitch anyway.

Again its a missed opportunity to doff the cap at the league, if Murphy is included then people who wouldnt normally take a blind bit of notice about the league may take a second look. In the same way tha Rovers v Madrid was a postive force for the league. I doubt anyone thinks that Murphy is good enough to start for Ireland but is Westwood that good that an opportunity like this should be missed, not that Trap will lose any sleep, I doubt he knows where Dalymount is.
30/07/2009, 12:31 PM
Thommo

Wasn't McAteer as well(unattached) when he scored that cracker against Holland in the '02 WC campaign.
Didn't it lead to Mick McCarthy's great quote post match "If he's not at a club by Monday I'll stick my bottom in Burton's front window".
Still I think a player(McCarthy) specifically who plays in a midfield role where we are weak who has just signed for a premier club deserves a crack isn't that what friendlies are all about, experimenting!
30/07/2009, 12:36 PM
Hibernian

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Originally Posted by Crosby87

Liam Miller? :rolleyes:
Why would you not include James McCarthy in a friendly squad like this, let him come along and get some experience in it, hang with the guys.....

agree totally..

why the hell is Liam miller on this squad sweet jesus christ the man will be in the squad when he 50 years old at this rate..

he is useless (could use million times worse then that) simple as that
30/07/2009, 12:36 PM
lionelhutz

I'm a bit surprised Stephen Reid isn't included. Even if he's not quite fit enough to play yet, just to have him training with the squad and part of the set up again would be a major plus to both the player and squad before the Cyprus game.
30/07/2009, 12:39 PM
elroy

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Originally Posted by lionelhutz

I'm a bit surprised Stephen Reid isn't included. Even if he's not quite fit enough to play yet, just to have him training with the squad and part of the set up again would be a major plus to both the player and squad before the Cyprus game.

"Trapattoni also announced that three players have been placed on stand-by for the visit of Australia: Alex Bruce, Damien Delaney and Steven Reid."

I know Stevie Reid is back training but Im not sure if he has actually played in any pre season friendlies yet. So rather than pi**ing B'burn off by calling him up when he is still on the road to recovery, I think it might have been decided that it would be best to give the lad more time with his club.
30/07/2009, 12:40 PM
centre mid

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Originally Posted by lionelhutz

I'm a bit surprised Stephen Reid isn't included. Even if he's not quite fit enough to play yet, just to have him training with the squad and part of the set up again would be a major plus to both the player and squad before the Cyprus game.

he is probably best served by staying with his club to get a full pre-season in, hes a definite starter if fit.
30/07/2009, 12:40 PM
kingdomkerry

So team should be. Please god dont start kilbane, he has already cost us 4 points against bulgaria

.............Given
Foley Dunne St Ledger O'Shea
.......Andrews Whelan
McGeady/Hunt..............Duff
..............Keane
..............Doyle
30/07/2009, 12:49 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by MeathDrog

Why the feck was he called up?

probably because of his performance against Nigeria, thought that was his best game for Ireland in an age. I said at the time that it wouldn't get him into the first choice starting XI, but it would keep his place in the squad. For now.

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Originally Posted by Thommo

Wasn't McAteer as well(unattached) when he scored that cracker against Holland in the '02 WC campaign.
Didn't it lead to Mick McCarthy's great quote post match "If he's not at a club by Monday I'll stick my bottom in Burton's front window".
Still I think a player(McCarthy) specifically who plays in a midfield role where we are weak who has just signed for a premier club deserves a crack isn't that what friendlies are all about, experimenting!

He wasn't unattached, but he couldn't get near the Blackburn first team. I think a week after that he was on the bench for a League Cup game. Not long after that he moved to Sunderland

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Originally Posted by kingdomkerry

So team should be. Please god dont start kilbane, he has already cost us 4 points against bulgaria

.............Given
Foley Dunne St Ledger O'Shea
.......Andrews Whelan
McGeady/Hunt..............Duff
..............Keane
..............Doyle

Yeah, I'd agree with that. Maybe give Nolan another chance at left full.
30/07/2009, 12:51 PM
elroy

Update re Stevie Reid, he hasnt featured in any of B'burn's pre season games to date, so its only right that he isnt in this squad.
30/07/2009, 12:54 PM
irishultra

Liam Miller? Dear oh dear. Chris McCann, Keith Fahey, James McCarthy and he calls up Liam Miller.
30/07/2009, 1:01 PM
rambler14

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Originally Posted by kingdomkerry

So team should be. Please god dont start kilbane, he has already cost us 4 points against bulgaria

.............Given
Foley Dunne St Ledger O'Shea
.......Andrews Whelan
McGeady/Hunt..............Duff
..............Keane
..............Doyle

You can't drop Kilbane he's like a little puppy!

We don't have to play Bulgaria again anyway.
30/07/2009, 1:32 PM
Claret Murph

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Originally Posted by irishultra

Liam Miller? Dear oh dear. Chris McCann, Keith Fahey, James McCarthy and he calls up Liam Miller.

You are so right ....................................
30/07/2009, 1:39 PM
Duggie

glad to see steven reid is back in our thought regarding selection but prob best not to rush him back for this friendly. would have like to maybe see him include james mccarthy, looking forward to seeing how he gets on this season. havent seen much of this chris mccann but have been hearing loads about him but hes not picked either.

i feel so much for Andy Reid though. The guy has been so dignified with this situation and all he wants to do is play in the green jersey. hasnt mouthed of atal only to say he wants to play for Ireland. Pity his talent is been wasted.
30/07/2009, 1:41 PM
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Paul McShane:(:(:(, not even on standby
30/07/2009, 1:47 PM
Supreme feet

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Paul McShane:(:(:(, not even on standby

Injured for next 3 months.
30/07/2009, 1:52 PM
joema

Very conservative squad. Hardly surprising though.

It seems Trap had a few players in mind but didn't have the bottle to include them.

Miller's inclusion is ridiculous, tbh.
30/07/2009, 2:03 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

beaten to it

no great shocks, apart from Miller's inclusion despite being "unattached"

Has he been training with anybody?

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

Brian Murphy despite being outstanding for Bohs this season again including both champions league games has been left out again. It's clear now he will have to wait until he moves to England, plays half a dozen or so games & suddenly becomes good enough

Maybe if he didn't make basics errors for both of Salzburg's when under the spotlight he would have been given a chance to show what he can do.

I still would have given him a chance in this friendly though, even just name him in the squad so the management can get a closer look at him, but it's perfectly sensible that Given, Westwood, J Murphy and Henderson (Kiely too) are ahead of him in the pecking order.

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Originally Posted by centre mid

I honselty cant see where Miller fits into the squad, He is not going to start any qualifiers

Why not just name 11 players in the squad then?

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and frankly the way Trap sets up his team doesnt allow for a player like Miller i.e. a flair player who has no flair and no club.

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Originally Posted by joema

Miller's inclusion is ridiculous, tbh.

Must have imagined him playing in the last game then...

Miller is named in the squad again because he played well the last time we played. Simple as that but as usual people on here fail to grasp that a player's performances can actually improve, eg the length of time it took for O'Shea to get praise for his consistent solid displays.

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Originally Posted by centre mid

Again its a missed opportunity to doff the cap at the league, if Murphy is included then people who wouldnt normally take a blind bit of notice about the league may take a second look. In the same way tha Rovers v Madrid was a postive force for the league. I doubt anyone thinks that Murphy is good enough to start for Ireland but is Westwood that good that an opportunity like this should be missed, not that Trap will lose any sleep, I doubt he knows where Dalymount is.

Westwood is miles better than Murphy. It's not even debatable.
30/07/2009, 2:13 PM
centre mid

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Why not just name 11 players in the squad then?

silly comment

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the length of time it took for O'Shea to get praise for his consistent solid displays.

O Shea was playing consistently wel for Utd for a long time, his form for Ireland improved when he switched to CH besdie Dunne. You cant compare this to Miller.

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Westwood is miles better than Murphy. It's not even debatable.

That wasnt the point I was making.
30/07/2009, 2:46 PM
Diarmo

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Miller is named in the squad again because he played well the last time we played. Simple as that but as usual people on here fail to grasp that a player's performances can actually improve, eg the length of time it took for O'Shea to get praise for his consistent solid displays.

John O'Shea's last competitive club match was the Champions League Final. Miller can't find a club at Championship level, and QPR fans thought he was useless. I find his inclusion ridiculous.
30/07/2009, 2:47 PM
kev mcq

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Originally Posted by joema

Keith Fahey will be included it seems!

Heard from a reliable source.

Or not....
30/07/2009, 2:52 PM
Razors left peg

Martinez said in the paper today that James McCarthy hasnt done enough aerobic work yet and needs to build up his fitness before he will involve him in any games, so no surprise that he hasnt been called up. He hasnt done enough to warrant a call up just yet anyway really.Lets see how he gets on in Premiership first
30/07/2009, 2:59 PM
dr_peepee

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

beaten to it

no great shocks, apart from Miller's inclusion despite being "unattached"

Must be his turn in the Barrel...
30/07/2009, 3:10 PM
the doc

St Ledger and Nolan

I wonder if St Ledger and Nolan, will be allowed to play by PNE?

St Ledger has been carrying a thigh strain in pre season and has missed all but one game.

Club v Country?
http://www.pnefc.net/page/NewsDetail...738055,00.html
30/07/2009, 3:11 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by centre mid

silly comment

That was the point.;) Wasn't anywhere near as silly as yours. He's very much in Trap's plans, he's certainly not in the squad just to fill the numbers. But my point still stands, if you are only going to pick players in the squad that are possibly going to start then you will have a very small squad.

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O Shea was playing consistently wel for Utd for a long time, his form for Ireland improved when he switched to CH besdie Dunne. You cant compare this to Miller.

That wasn't the point I was making. Even when O'Shea played well for Ireland he was still criticised by many, same with Miller here after performing well in his last game.

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That wasnt the point I was making.

Apologies, I misread it.

Westwood is not keeping Brian Murphy out of the squad so I don't think he comes into it. Henderson and Joe Murphy are the two keepers ahead of him (and rightly so). I'm slightly surprised that he didn't get named as third choice here purely because it's a friendly but Trap has four keepers to work with so he must be happy with that.

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Originally Posted by Diarmo

John O'Shea's last competitive club match was the Champions League Final. Miller can't find a club at Championship level, and QPR fans thought he was useless. I find his inclusion ridiculous.

See my point above.

Regarding the last competitive match Miller played: has it been any longer than anybody elses? I presume he has been training to keep up his fitness. If not it's a strange inclusion.
30/07/2009, 3:14 PM
Stuttgart88

Tets is spot on about Miller. His performance against Nigeria is what has kept him in the squad. I don't like Miller but I don't care about the marginal / fringe cases in this instance.

Do people not get that the imperative is to get 3 pioints in Cyprus in September? Stick with the players we know for now. We can all take a look at McCarthy, McCann and Fahey in their debut Premiership games and see how they fare.

I'm usually all on for looking at the potential newcomers but once fit Steven Reid will walk all over those 3 when the Cyprus squad is announced. If fit we'll have Whelan, Andrews, S. Reid and Gibson to choose from in CM and none of the above is going to change that unless they do something pretty impressive at club level.

It's not as if Trap has said he'll never pick them - he just hasn't picked them for the dress rehearsal for Cyprus. Fair enough by me.

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