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29/07/2009, 1:06 PM
Dodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by John83

For a print encyclopedia there must be a notability limit. For wikipedia, the limit could extend as far as "could anyone possibly want to look this up?" It's fallen well short of that, and now a subject which could have hundreds of interested readers is 'not notable'.

Also, it's not about notability for most of the editors doing the bulk of the deleting. It tends to be either an egotistical thrill of destruction or a anal ruleboundness about the criteria.

Spot on. I used to edit it quite regularly, but stopped due to ridiculous over moderation.

If I see something wrong I'll still change it but don't bother looking to fill gaps...
30/07/2009, 2:07 PM
Umberside

I just completely re-did the Gary Rogers page. I put in external links, put correct info into the infobox and wrote his biography.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Rogers
04/08/2009, 9:37 PM
sligobhoy67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umberside

I just completely re-did the Gary Rogers page. I put in external links, put correct info into the infobox and wrote his biography.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Rogers

well done mate! really good article.

An article I did was the featured article on wikipedia yesterday.

It was one I did on Manchester based Irish boxer called Michael Gomez - not a bad honour considering there are over 3 miliion articles on wikipedia.
08/08/2009, 11:35 PM
R�iteoir

Looking at the numerous debates on there - that Number57 sure has a pole up his arse about this
09/08/2009, 12:52 AM
Dodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umberside

I just completely re-did the Gary Rogers page. I put in external links, put correct info into the infobox and wrote his biography.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Rogers

His league appearances for Pats are wrong. He nly joined this year...
09/08/2009, 12:58 AM
Dunny

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge

His league appearances for Pats are wrong. He nly joined this year...

How many appearances has he made for Pat's this season then? Is it 22 or has Clarke started?
09/08/2009, 1:02 AM
Dodge

Yep, all 22 games
09/08/2009, 1:03 AM
Dunny

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge

Yep, all 22 games

Done.
09/08/2009, 12:24 PM
Predator

Forgive me if I'm wrong or if this has been said before, but I'm almost sure this exact same fiasco happened a few years ago and it actually resulted in the Wikiproject Irish Football being created by Danny Invincible. Doesn't that outline that there should be Wikipedia articles on all notable Irish footballers, including those who have played in the LoI?

WikiProject Irish Football
19/08/2009, 3:01 PM
sligobhoy67

maybe if anyone has any further information on the Stephen Roche (the UCD one) they could add it to it to help improve it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Roche_(football)
21/08/2009, 3:29 PM
sligobhoy67

Quote:

Originally Posted by sligobhoy67

maybe if anyone has any further information on the Stephen Roche (the UCD one) they could add it to it to help improve it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Roche_(football)

that link is incorrect.

here is the correct one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...che_(football)

it really needs some input within the next 24 hours.
21/08/2009, 3:41 PM
passinginterest

Things really took off today after I left that comment about a lack of understanding of the league of Ireland. I didn't think it'd have that much impact. My argument is that the League of Ireland is a fully professional league, regardless of wheter all the teams or players are full time professionals.
21/08/2009, 7:52 PM
Fribbler

If anyone wants copies of articles which have been deleted (in order to make them delete-proof by referencing or for setting up an LOI "Wikia" wiki), message me here or at Wikipedia (same username) and I can give you the deleted text.
21/08/2009, 8:07 PM
sligobhoy67

What I would urge is that everyone registers and account. We may not all have the same opinions and that his healthy but we need more Irish football fans registered.

It only takes seconds and if free.
22/08/2009, 12:18 PM
Umberside

We lost Stephen Roche by a mere 8-7. Incidentally it had been 7-1 so thanks to those who voted. New users are needed immediately though, we just lost our most valuable member:(
22/08/2009, 7:10 PM
Fribbler

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umberside

We lost Stephen Roche by a mere 8-7. Incidentally it had been 7-1 so thanks to those who voted. New users are needed immediately though, we just lost our most valuable member:(

You can attempt to overturn a deletion here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Drv

Hmmmm; seems my colon+capital D has become a smiley, still works though.
22/08/2009, 7:54 PM
Umberside

I think I'll leave it go, I'd only request for a reversal of the decision if sligobhoy67 was still operating on it.

I'll focus on improving the existing articles instead in the hope the AfDs will become a thing of the past.
22/08/2009, 11:23 PM
TheBoss

If Wikipedia nerds want to go around looking to delete League of Ireland players, than let them, we should setup are own site to cover it, its the only way for it to be solved.
21/09/2009, 7:08 PM
Dunny

Anyone seen Sean Prunty's page....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Prunty
21/09/2009, 10:53 PM
R�iteoir

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunny

Anyone seen Sean Prunty's page....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Prunty

I've managed to revert those idiotic edits so the page is as it should be
21/09/2009, 10:56 PM
Acornvilla

good man! theres such ****s out there
21/09/2009, 10:57 PM
Longfordian

Except he was born in Dublin and only moved to Longford at 8 or 9 I think but that's a minor enough point.
20/04/2010, 10:38 PM
Acornvilla

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

I've managed to revert those idiotic edits so the page is as it should be

i finally found out what your location ment!!
20/04/2010, 11:11 PM
R�iteoir

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Originally Posted by Acornvilla

i finally found out what your location ment!!

It's a great little story behind it involving several SMS Messages, an ex-Premiership footballer and that phrase
21/04/2010, 7:47 AM
Gareth

One thing that might help is we (Extratime) interview players and we will be increasing the number of them we will be doing. These links could help in providing references on the wiki page and increasing the players keepability on the site?
21/12/2011, 3:34 PM
TheBoss

Since the site lost the post the last time, here was the link to a site we can update the LOI on, each user votes on each edit to verify that the add or edit is a correct one, a bit slow to update as a result of user votes:

http://en.soccerwiki.org/wiki.php
01/01/2012, 1:57 AM
gufcfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBoss

Since the site lost the post the last time, here was the link to a site we can update the LOI on, each user votes on each edit to verify that the add or edit is a correct one, a bit slow to update as a result of user votes:

http://en.soccerwiki.org/wiki.php

Dunno about that site. Doesn't seem great.

Soccerway will have somebody doing the LOI from this season onwards apparently. http://development.soccerway.com/nat...egular-season/

Doesn't look up to date at the moment, although the fixtures for 2012 seem to be in.
07/01/2012, 12:14 PM
culloty82

Whoever's started the 2012 League of Ireland page on Wikipedia seems to be a regular here - all the info's bang up to date.
07/01/2012, 12:25 PM
adamd164

Tallaght doesn't have a capacity of 8513 - unless they made that extra stand permanent?
07/01/2012, 2:38 PM
horton

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Originally Posted by culloty82

Whoever's started the 2012 League of Ireland page on Wikipedia seems to be a regular here - all the info's bang up to date.

You've made some changes to that page yourself:p
07/01/2012, 3:03 PM
freewheel30

Noticed a few weeks ago that the Alan Murphy page had been removed as he had never played in a fully professional league. Surprised the guy didn't just go ahead and delete the entire category in that case.

Them deletionists be crazy. I guess though that the more articles the site has means the more donation appeal banners that get put up from Jimmy Wales and his pals.
07/01/2012, 4:32 PM
born2bwild

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Originally Posted by culloty82

Whoever's started the 2012 League of Ireland page on Wikipedia seems to be a regular here - all the info's bang up to date.

According to this Mervue play at Terryland Park.
Anyone else not get that memo?
07/01/2012, 7:39 PM
culloty82

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Originally Posted by horton

You've made some changes to that page yourself:p

Ah no, I just stuck the links up here, so it was up to the guy to check them out, did fix some of the things mentioned here though.
08/01/2012, 10:28 PM
nigel-harps1954

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Originally Posted by adamd164

Tallaght doesn't have a capacity of 8513 - unless they made that extra stand permanent?

I think quite a lot of those capacity stats are a bit off..

Brandywell holds a lot more than 3,000. The day anyone sees 5,620 crammed in Gortakeegan is a day to behold. Lissywollen wouldn't hold 5,000 yet would it? RSC must hold more than 3,000. I'm confused by whoever made those stats.
09/01/2012, 4:46 PM
stann

RSC seats a smidge under 3000, we got 4,500-odd in to the Liverpool friendly in July, and the record crowd was 8,500 for the Cup semi against Shels in '97. None of those numbers will be troubled again for the foreseeable though. :laugh:
Quite a few fairly odd-looking figures alright! :bulgy:
10/01/2012, 12:07 AM
Lim till i die

Tolka 9600?? :bulgy:

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24/01/2013, 11:40 AM
culloty82

Didn't Dundalk get taken over by a Supporters' Trust mid-season - either way this might need updating.
24/01/2013, 12:25 PM
GCdfc

Quote:

Originally Posted by culloty82

Didn't Dundalk get taken over by a Supporters' Trust mid-season - either way this might need updating.

No, it was and still is in private ownership albeit by different owners.
24/01/2013, 12:45 PM
BonnieShels

Quote:

Originally Posted by R�iteoir

It's a great little story behind it involving several SMS Messages, an ex-Premiership footballer and that phrase

It has always bugged me. Unless Google Translate is telling the truth.
11/09/2016, 11:20 PM
davidatrb

I have restarted the argument over notability of League of Ireland players especially those from the times where many/most/(all?) clubs had gone fully professional.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipe...sional_leagues

I added Ireland Premier Division as fully pro and they removed it citing that a general consensus should be found on the Talk Page first. So I have gone and removed Ireland from the list of "not fully professional top divisions" because I don't see any consensus on that either.

I noticed I've been fighting this fight for 7 years now - so don't hold your breathe. League of Ireland player articles continue to get deleted left right and centre even though there are BBC articles describing the league as fully pro and lots of sources quoting wages of 100,000 per year for a number of players. FIFA laws rule that professional contract is anyone that has signed a written contract and is paid above expenses incurred. PFAI have 200 and some professionals on their membership and by their rules a professional player seems to be any player earning > €100 per week. But GiantF****Snowman's definition of a professional wage is vague and undefined and although he hasnt a clue what constitutes a professional footballer he knows that League of Ireland doesn't cut it and he knows this without refuting any of the evidence put in front of him or without having a a clue what the average wage is.. While a throw away comment at the last paragraph of local newspaper in some foreign language that you know nobody has verified is enough to have the Polish 3rd tier accepted as a fully pro league.

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