I heard Sean Kelly being interviewed on the radio the other day and he stated very clearly that the dimensions for a GAA pitch had been taken into consideration in relation to the redevelopment of Lansdowne.
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I heard Sean Kelly being interviewed on the radio the other day and he stated very clearly that the dimensions for a GAA pitch had been taken into consideration in relation to the redevelopment of Lansdowne.
Crazy decision. Not only does it mess up a football/rugby stadium but also gives some ammo for local residents to object to more matches at Lansdowne. I don't think anyone thinks the GAA will ever use Landsdowne.Quote:
Originally posted by Robinski
I heard Sean Kelly being interviewed on the radio the other day and he stated very clearly that the dimensions for a GAA pitch had been taken into consideration in relation to the redevelopment of Lansdowne.
:rolleyes:
no chance of there being a retractable lower tier over the excess ground as with the covered running track in Paris i suppose?
Surely this can't be the case. Gaelic games have to be considered in the Lansdowne redevelopment to the detriment of soccer and rugby yet the GAA still get to refuse the playing of Garrison games in Croker? Only on our ridiculous little island. Shambolic.
It's doubtful,in the event of the GAA rejecting the proposal on Rule 42( which bans foreign sports from Croker),that they will be admitted to the new Lansdowne.I think that Gaelic Games haven't been ruled out because the government and FAI are hoping to give them further incentive to alter Rule 42 before Easter's vote.Quote:
Originally posted by Bowsy
Surely this can't be the case. Gaelic games have to be considered in the Lansdowne redevelopment to the detriment of soccer and rugby yet the GAA still get to refuse the playing of Garrison games in Croker? Only on our ridiculous little island. Shambolic.
After all it's likely we'll need another venue after 2006.
Taken from BreakingNews.ie
The Official Website is here...Quote:
Lansdowne Stadium contracts move forward
25/04/2005 - 14:19:37
Development plans for the new Lansdowne Road Stadium moved to a new phase today with the awarding of the design and project management contracts for the stadium.
Minister for Sport John O'Donoghue confirmed the timetable for lodging a planning application is on course for December 2005.
The design contract has been awarded to a consortium led by HOK Sports, one of the world's largest sport architectural practices. The winning consortium includes Irish architects Scott Tallon Walker.
The contract for project management services has been awarded to a consortium led by Project Management Ltd. Recent PM projects include work at Pfizer, UCC, Abbott in Cootehill, Co Cavan and Dublin Bus.
Thanks for the link...It will be interesting to find out how they are gonna tackle all the different problems of which there are many. Its exciting all the same though.!!! :D :ball:
I see the designers appointed are the same ones involved with Wembly and Emirates Stadium. I actually had a look around both Wembly and Emirates stadium sites yesterday afternoon and if Lansdowne is anywhere near as impressive as these two new structures we really are in for a treat in the future - those two in particular are just enourmous and beatutiful pieces of design. :)
Well here are some pictures of the new Wembley stadium
http://www.wembleystadium.com/pressb...es/default.htm
Which may give you some idea of what to expect?
(Click on the pics for a bigger pic).
50,000 is the figure. I don't think it would be possible to make it any bigger where it is. If it was I'm sure JP McManus wouldn't have a problem handing out €65m for the extra 15,000 seats. ;)
It will be 50k.
Stands behind the goals will only be single tier which means smallish capacity.
Here is that companies web site!!!! I paticularly line their ''Gaylord Entertainment Center'' in Tenesse...
http://www.hoksve.com/sport/
I take it that they are gonna turn the stadium 90 degrees and develop the rugby ground at the back?
That HOK crowd have a pretty decent looking portfolio
At least were heading in some direction now.
http://www.lrsdc.ie/home/article.asp?NID=177&NCID=1
For all the latest news...
I live beside Lansdowne Road and can't wait for the disruption to start! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by blobbyblob
Anyway, just to say that the pitch will continue to run on it's current alignment but the whole stadium will be moved in (towards the river) to take advantage of the space/pitch behind the east stand and away from the DART line, to allow for easier access to/from the stadium... the train line will have to be closed for a period during demolition but I haven't heard how long that will be.
Good on ya. I think they need to be very careful with the local residents and do everything they can to ease the pain, any objevtions could seriously delay the project.Quote:
Originally Posted by roboyle
Luckily, the residents in Bath avenue are nothing like those in the Croke Park area. :)
Only residents that moved to the area before there was a stadium should have the right to object.
Well if they are to close rail line it will only be at weekends. There is no way it can be closed during the week.
Well there was that objection to the U 2 concert but I'm guessing that came from the landsdowne road residentsQuote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Judging by the comments of a woman living in the shadow of Landsdowne on TV3 last week, there's going to be huge objections. No disrespect to the residents of Croke Park but the southsiders around Landsdowne will have a lot more financial clout and in this country money talks.
There aren't many houses on Lansdowne Road anyway. I'm trying to picture them in my head but I don't think there's more than 10. Is there? There's a load of offices at the Berkeley Court end and when you go down past the turnstiles there's a few houses. Nothing much though. If anyone from Shelbourne Road are complaining they have no right imo. Its too far away.
Jesus, a 4 story building (apartments) has just been built at the back of my house. They spent over a year doing them and the tradesmen are in there atm. There was no way you'd get a lie-on in the morning with the noise of them. There is no sunshine in my back garden any more. I could go on forever but I (and about 10 residents) appealed against the planning permission and absolutely nothing was done about it.
What exactly would the residents be complaining about in this case? Maybe if its residents in the Havlock square end I could understand but surely not Lansdowne road?
The woman interviewed was in her back garden in Havlock Square. She sounded very determined.
The woman interviewed was in her back garden in Havlock Square. She sounded very determined but having I agree planning permission seems to be obtained a lot easier now that say 5 years ago.
Try living beside the Balally/Shopping shopping centre when that was being built :eek: . At least the Lansdowne locals will only get disturbance on match days when its built. We have thousands going to shopping centre every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by roboyle
If I see another artist's impression of a proposed stadium in this country I'll go mad. Between beautiful drawings of Eircom Park, the Bertie Bowl and now Lansdowne the graphic artists in this country must be making a fortune.
Why, by the way, did the Croker people go for a standing area in Hill 16 ? Couldn't afford a stand, planning problems or something else ? Takes away from the overall effect of the stadium I think. :confused:
Brendan Mullen lives on Lansdowne Road I think & his missus wrote to the paper a few years ago complaining about redeveloping Lansdowne. Like she could afford to live there if hubby hadn't made his name playing there...
Apologies to Mrs. Mullen if I'm mistaken!
OK, so if its Havlock Square residents its obviously over noise of construction. If I can't get anything done about a 4 story building in front of my back garden, builders causing disruption for a year and the dust going all over my house. I don't see how anyone can do anything about this. All we wanted was the building to be reduced in size. This person just wants compensation, without a doubt.
The houses on lansdowne road will have little excuse for an objection as theres a road & their front garden between them & the stadium. Stadium will be more or the same size as previously. Complaining about match day activities isn't valid either as there won't be any change to that & the IRFU already have a licence for so many concerts per year.
Apparently the GAA own a lot of the houses surrounding Croke Park so hard for tenants to complain.
Tell me about it, it's only one third built still and loads of construction ongoing. Car is caked in dust everytime i come out to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I reckon the push for a green field site may have been better pushed as planning will be hard to get in Lansdowne even if granting is inevitable. Also, seating will defo be limited to less than 50k
As far as I know (and I'd like to think I've kept an eye on the situation :cool: ) it was always the intention of the GAA to reconstruct the Hill as a standing area. The possibility of a second tier along the lines of the preium level on the other three sides of the pitch was shot down pretty early as this would have been difficult to do with the train line immediately behind the Hill (more in the way that at the other end of the stadium) and the additional expense/work which would ahve been needed because of it. I know the GAA tried to buy a load of houses behind the train line but some people weren't willing to sell... I was on the Hill on Sunday and it's a fine construction - think it was built for €6 million LESS than the GAA budgeted for but it has all the room needed underneath the stand to cope with a capacity crowd.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Also it was left as a Terrace probably for the Dublin supporters to sing etc. Lots of supporters in England are pretty ****ed off about the loss of safe terraces.
I heard the Minister for Arts, Sport & Tourism, John O'Donoghue, talking about the redevelopment of Lansdowne Road on the radio a few days ago. He said that by the end of this year, early next year, they will be in a position to submit their planning application. They will expect a decision on this by early 2007. The estimated building time is two and a half years which brings us to late 2009. So, this means that if the application is made on time, if there are no objections to the application and the building process is also completed within the estimated timeframe that we will have our redeveloped stadium in approximately four and a half years. With our recent record when it comes to such matters I won't believe this is going to happen at all until I'm sitting in my brand spanking new seat cheering us on.
We're not the worst though.
In Zambia the national football stadium was named after some prominent Swedish diplomat who was held in high esteem locally.
The Zambians thought it'd be a good idea to redevelop the stadium so they knocked it down and then went to the Swedish government for money. The Swedes declined for some odd reason like "why the **** should we?" and the Zambians were left with a nice pile of rubble.
Not sure on the exact specifics but this is by-and-large what happened I think.
Plans on schedule for Lansdowne Road Stadium development
The appointment of a company that helped produce the masterplan for the re-development of Croke Park and other major stadiums such as the new Wembley, the Emirates Stadium for Arsenal, Wimbledon Centre Court and the Ascot Racecourse, marked a major leap forward in the planning process of the new €292m stadium at Lansdowne Road.
The new Stadium’s Design Team will be headed by HOK sport architecture, the world’s leading sports architecture practice, based in London, Kansas City and Brisbane. Through its three offices across the world, HOK sport architecture offers a uniquely fertile environment for innovative design.
Read more at www.fai.ie
Could we get this added as a sticky so that we reduce the number of Lansdowne Road threads?
What kind of corporate mumbo jumbo PR wankology is that? !Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Unison.ie
P!ss up. Brewery.Quote:
Delaney's report, which was due to be circulated to the 61 National Council members by email last night, emerged in somewhat bizarre circumstances as it was also inadvertently sent to all addresses on the FAI's extensive media list.
Bertie taking no chances after the Eircom Park fiasco...
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Originally Posted by joeSoap
a fiasco in which he was the main player?
He's right too. Have to be cautious when dealing with the FAIlureQuote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap