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7 mins added in Cork.
:eek: just to keep it tight at the bottom (as we try to crawl up the table) come on cork .....Quote:
Originally Posted by thischarmingman
We should definitely be looking over our shoulder now....
all over in Cork. Good result for Derry and Bohs and good wins for Derry and Bohs too,
League Table
Bohs - 35
Derry - 34
Cork - 30
Shams - 27*
Dundalk - 20
Pats - 20
Galway - 19*
Sligo - 17
Drogs - 15
Bray - 15
*game in hand. Rovers will go ahead on GD if they can beat Galway.
I saw the end of the Cork game in Maileys after the match. What happened to justify the 7 mins added on? Nothing seemed to have been mentioned in the analysis.
Bloody Dublin bia- sorry, force of habit.Quote:
Originally Posted by pól-dcfc
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Originally Posted by thischarmingman
From the (admittedly brief) highlights I saw, I just assumed the ref was trying to give the Corkies a way back into the points.
To be fair-it was probably deserved. Duggan is a good player but he can be a bit tapped at times. He'd remind you of a young Joey in all honesty.Quote:
Originally Posted by centre mid
Dundalk were awful in our game-with ten men for most of the game we pushed them back into their own half and the only tactic from them was to launch it in the air for Flash to try and run onto it. I missed the penalty (was selling tickets) but the second goal was a mistake by Connor, who decided to sprint out of his goal for no real reason and got lobbed. Our first half performance was on a par with Derek Mountfield's last game in charge (for anyone who doesn't remember that one-we lost 4-0 and Mounty got sacked at half time), but the second half (when Doolin decided to bring on O'Donnel, Behan and Faz-why they all were on the bench anyway is a mystery.....) was much improved. Denis took his goal very well. We still didn't create any clear-cut chances really mind you. Dundalk were awful but considering how truly bad we were in the first half, they probably deserved something from the game.
Liam Burns went off on a stretcher after Pat Sul (I think) fell on him....didn't know Pat Sul could do that much damage-looks a light fella!:D Chris Turner had earlier recieved treatment before being subbed off. Hopefully only two knocks but I fear Burns might be out for awhile, didn't look so good.Quote:
I saw the end of the Cork game in Maileys after the match. What happened to justify the 7 mins added on? Nothing seemed to have been mentioned in the analysis.
Yeah, it was a great finish. Real power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph McSweene
It's always interesting to hear the viewpoint of opposition fans for a match you have both watched. Both teams took it in turns to be poor - Cork in the first half and Dundalk in the second half. With a numerical advantage and two goals up at half time, there was no excuse for Dundalk surrendering territory and so much of the ball in the second period. Behan, Faz and to a lessor extent O'Donnell certainly made a difference when introduced and it is to Corks credit that they forced the game in the second half, even if no clear cut chances were created, Behans excellent goal aside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph McSweene
But the game was won and lost in the first half, with Dan Connor being culpable for both goals. Shane Duggan should also hold his hand up in the Cork dressing room for getting himself foolishly sent off (ref had no option). Dundalk were far from awful in this key period and I thought totally dominated the exchanges, irrespective of the two goals.
I think most neutrel observers would agree that Dundalk deserved their win, and seem to be turning a corner with 3 wins on the spin.
Greatly looking forward to the candystripes visit to Oriel in a fortnight
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Sweet relief. Too close for comfort.
I was indeedy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
I didnt want to lug my laptop into Fibber Magees afterwards. 2 Cocktails for a €5, pity they were fairly dilluted but still, Black Russians, NICE!Quote:
Originally Posted by hoop4life
Cork where absolute muck last night, we controlled the first half without really testing Connor too much, Cork playing at home and I dont recall them having one shot on target in the first half! Our midfield ran the show until Turner went off injured. We sat back too mcuh but still Cork didnt create anything clear cut in the second half, I think 8 Cork players got cards last night thats including Duggans 2, is that a fine then cause I think we only got 1(O'Brien)!
Absolutley delighted with that win. It was a shocking match really. Very few clear cut chances.
Does anybody no why Limerick had a player sent off?
Im dissappointed to lose Doherty for a couple of matches. Were short on numbers as it is. The penalty that resulted in Dohertys red card was awful. Straight down the middle. Deano had even dived the wrong way and still got a foot to it.
As for the winner, shocking defending, poor goalkeeping, probably a hand ball in there too but it was a great finish and of all the teams to score a late winner against.:D
Overall we probably deserved a draw at best but not too many teams will pick up wins in Limerick this season so it was never going to be easy.
Sligoman says it's still 0-0 in Longford and Tallaght
I was at Dayler last night. We came for a 0-0, that was obvious after a few minutes. Paul Curry made his debut up front as a lone striker, with Morrison in support. However, we showed no ambition going forward whatsoever. Saying that, we deserved the 0-0 at ht as Bohs didn't play well enough to score. They were only in 2nd gear, but shifting up to 3rd gear after the break was enough to get the job done. Once they scored, we were never going to get back in it.
I guess Cook was thinking that we were never going to get a result even with a full team, and he's probably right. Still though, playing for a scoreless draw just doesn't sit well with me.
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Originally Posted by brianw82
Yeah, was disappointed in Sligo for that: just a question (because we were trying to remember during the longeurs of the first half, not any kind of dig) - have you beaten us since you came back up?
The 2-1 in Connor's first visit back to the Showgrounds in '07 is one, for sure. I don't think we beat ye in '06, although I'm open to correction on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofstan
2-1 at Showgrounds the year Cook took over and atleast once the year we came up as I remember Adam Hughes scoring the only goal in a fixture with ye.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofstan
We had too many injuries, Bohs were shockingly bad considering the team they have and the team we had out.Yes, Adam Hughes scored a late winner against you in the Showgies in I'd guess 2006 and Connor's first game back in Sligo also.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofstan
Thanks....now that you mention it, i think I was there for that 2-1, but one nice thing about growing old is that you forget stuff really easily :)
I think we beat ye in 2006 under Connor in Dalymount too.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofstan
23rd June 06. 2-0 to Rovers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovers1
Good win for wexford
Shams 1 up.
it was a poor game and wasnt a patch on the cup matches. youths scored from their only shot on target liam lynch should have scored from ours. I rather the league win than the cup win thanks very much. roll on the transfer window :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth
I do think ye were terrible though-the midfield looked poor and I thought the defence lacks movement (well heary and burns I guess are not getting any younger:D)-however, your team has goals in it and that'll see ye through to a safe mid-table position by the end of the year I would guess. Connor hasn't put together a great squad for ye but it'll be enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
I didn't think ye played well though, just in the first half-we were so bad-it would have been criminal if ye weren't two up!!! I can't begrudge Dundalk the win at all-I honesty thought we were in for a heavy-sack beating come half-time. Nice to see Doolin take off Greg and bring on the Beast-as well as o'Donnel later on who was superb.
Hancock was also very poor last night-he gave a rake of cards out and had clearly lost control on occasion. The peno and sending off were completely correct decisions though!
Thank God the summer break has come for Galway United ! Hopefully we can get our injury crisis sorted by the time we come back.
I can understand your disappointment, particularly with the recent poor run of results for Cork.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph McSweene
But either you are used to a very high standard of football or else were seeing the match in a one-eyed way. Dundalk totally dominated in the crucial first half and I think were far from "awfull" - you are right about Heary and Burns lacking mobility, but were not exposed on the night (Heary was Setanta MOTM). The Dundalk midfield is unbalanced out wide, but in Michael Daly and Chris Turner have two of the best midfielders in the country.
Hancock is a standing joke, and all decisions were a lottery, but he was right in the two crucial decisions (penalty and sending off). The number of yellows was a farce in a game that was not dirty (par for the course in LOI this year), but the level of dissent from Cork players meant that they were the authors of their own misfortune
We can be disappointed in our own performance and still evaluate the quality of the opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
The first half the other night was the worst half of football Ive ever seen a City team play apart from the shame that was Finland.
Yes Dundalk dominated, but the way City were playing, my college ladies soccer team would have dominated. Dundalk are a poor side, we were even worse.
We were shocking for most of the second half too and with 10 men still managed to come within inches of getting a draw :eek:
We were an absolute disgrace. We started players who wouldnt get their games for decent 5 a side teams and Dundalk deserved the win.
But that doesnt mean that ye arent a poor side, it just means ye werent as bad as us.
I could not agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
I understand the exaggeration to make your point that.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
Have you an opinion as to why Faz, Behan and O'Donnell did not start?Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
Cork certainly missed Joe Gamble and Billy Dennehy (he was excellent against us in Oriel Park earlier in the year)
In many ways I agree with you that Dundalk have been poor overall this season. But I disagree that they were "awful" or "poor" on Friday, particularly in the crucial first half. However I can't understand the mentality that allows a 10 man team so much posession and territory as they did in the 2nd half. If Dundalk had played as they did in the 1st half throughout the season they would be competing for Europe rather then 5 points off the bottom.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
Dundalk have the nucleus of a good team, with 3 wins on the bounce to boost confidence, and particularly if the July signings gel, will be facing the 2nd half of the season with some optimism.
Because Paul Doolin is an idiot would be my guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
We'l just have to disagree on it. For example Sligo the week before were a far stronger team than Dundalk, and they're no great shakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
What is it with him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Blowing the whistle as loud as he possibly can and then running threateningly towards the player who commited the foul (or not in most cases), waving the card in the most theatrical way possible.
The mans more than a joke, he is now a verb. (and not a nice one)
Also I don't think I have ever seen a team waste as much time in that 2nd half (and my God we've seen it all over the years)
The crying wolf was such that when a player was seriously injured it was almost overlooked.
It should have been 10 minutes minimum at the end (not that we'd have scored but just to annoy Dundalk)
Mansaram commited at least 5 or 6 cynical fouls with no card.
And to finish no one bar Healy is fit to wear the City shirt.
Bit harsh on Danny no? He was basically the only defence we needed in the second half-the Beast also came on and did his best to change the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
Flash did get away with murder in the game as well but I just wasn't surprised given it was Hancock. I was down in the bottom corner of the Shed and I swear he had a big grin on his face when he booked Pat Sul. What's wrong with him?
Seemed like an act of desperation from Doolin, changing up our entire strike force because we've not been scoring. I have no idea why O'Donnel wasn't starting, although I can kind of understand his loyalty to playing Killer and Duggan. They've played well over the past few months to be fair to them.Quote:
Have you an opinion as to why Faz, Behan and O'Donnell did not start?
Cork certainly missed Joe Gamble and Billy Dennehy (he was excellent against us in Oriel Park earlier in the year)
Oh ye do have the core of a good side-the centre-backs, though not the most mobile as I've said, are both former league winners for a reason. Chris Turner is an outstanding midfield prospect-and one of the better midfielders outside of City's team in my book. I've not seen a lot of Daly yet so I can nay comment on him. I think ye lack a bit of drive from the position though-something Mental Micky would have added to be fair to Connor.Quote:
In many ways I agree with you that Dundalk have been poor overall this season. But I disagree that they were "awful" or "poor" on Friday, particularly in the crucial first half. However I can't understand the mentality that allows a 10 man team so much posession and territory as they did in the 2nd half. If Dundalk had played as they did in the 1st half throughout the season they would be competing for Europe rather then 5 points off the bottom.
Dundalk have the nucleus of a good team, with 3 wins on the bounce to boost confidence, and particularly if the July signings gel, will be facing the 2nd half of the season with some optimism.
Out wide and at full-back ye are a bit weak though, and that Strikeforce can be very on again/off again. Although if ye get someone like Ger Rowe playing well, it would be a big help. Definitely survive this season but there's a need to push on for next season. I agree though with Micls that Sligo were a better side, and I think Galway are as well. I reckon only Drogs and Bray are worse at the moment. (and us if we keep playing like we did in that first half:o)