There is a severe lack of official information coming out of Limerick FC regarding this story and their proposed money-spinning friendlies.
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There is a severe lack of official information coming out of Limerick FC regarding this story and their proposed money-spinning friendlies.
its so crazy it might just happen..... 0-0...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
sorry Limerick fans... :oQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
It hardly needs to be said that LOI clubs are skint, with little hope of steady income streams. Athlone Town "filled" Lisseywoolen witha Sunderland game, helped them out for a little while, but my idea is this::::
Instead of allowing a single club to host a glamour tie that make a few bob that'll last a season (i say few due to stadium capacity limitations) could FAI have a LOI representative side play the likes of Real/Barce/Liverpool and divide proceeds to league?
Real V Munster LOI selection raising money for Limerick, Cork City, improving regional facilities, and play it in Thomond, not turners cross, and get 3 times the gate??
Barca visit dublin and play a Leinster selection, you'd fill aviva with it!! make it an annual thing with different high profile clubs Inter/Juve/Bayern...
Just an idea....
FAI need to something before we lose more clubs... Dublin City/Kilkenny/Cobh:rolleyes:
I think this is a good idea and the money split between clubs would be very valuable to those struggling.Quote:
Originally Posted by olegunnar
and a Sligo/ Derry/ Finn harps/ Mons selection play AC Milan in windsor park.
;)
The FAI doesn't care if more clubs go out of business as long as they're the "right" clubs e.g Us, Monaghan, Kildare, UCD, Cobh etc. They'd be quite happy with about 10 "successful" ideally full time teams with the rest all amateurs and feeding into the nearest big club from the more heavily populated areas. There's less of a drain on their resources then. See the number of times Padraig Smith has said he feels some clubs should consider if they belong in senior soccer and how he feels more clubs will do a Kilkenny City.
So Derry v AC Milan at Windsor then.Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Ah now shnake.Quote:
Originally Posted by pól-dcfc
I'm the Viper ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Mine is named the Octagon.Quote:
Originally Posted by pól-dcfc
Top show. Perfectly captures the reality of culchie life.Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Fixed that for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by pól-dcfc
aahhhh the wit!:oQuote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
The only shnakes you know are shnakes and ladders!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Lazy Journalism I think.
Limerick will be grand. Don't ye worry :)
Like the Irish Times saying Barrett and Tierney wouldnt be playing against Pats (and they did) and forgetting about Purcell, Lyons, and Cummins before making a snide remark about a 'stand'. 300 covered seats not a stand then?Quote:
Originally Posted by L37Ultra
However, make no mistake, we're in the **** big time.
and how do the FAI get Real/Barce/Liverpool, or Inter/Juve/Bayern to come to Ireland to play these matches? Those clubs have to get some of that money too... there won't be much left after for one club, nevermind if its divided up between the clubs in the region. If there is alot of money after everyone has ben paid, out of the Leinster region match for example the Dublin Clubs will want more money (except UCD) because they are Premier Division clubs and have to pay more money to their players, managers, and backroom staff. The FAI will oblige becuse they are stones', and the First Division clubs will get even less, widening the gap between the two divisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by olegunnar
Good points...
Real are over this summer, and are hardly being paid for the match they will play. So FAI takes a lead in marketing Ireland as a pre-season training destination, maybe with Bord Failte/Ministry of Sport?
If you can get 4k-5k to watch Sunderland, surely you could multiply that by 5 if you got a top club? With clubs looking to keep costs down, Ireland would be a good destination for Sporting/Benfica/Valencia/Ajax etc
In order to reduce disputes between clubs over money, a business plan is set up to organise dividing the profits. Everyone knows how much they get in advance, like progressing through Setanta cup. Stage 2 BIG matches a year, put them on RTE??
Think outside the box people!!! sorry, people in FAI!!! as they need to do SOMETHING
Sorry to continue the derail, but...
How about organising a pre-season tournament, like Ajax's Amsterdam tournament, with decent-sized European clubs, like Lyon, PSV, Atletico Madrid, Everton, Aston Villa etc., and a LOI select playing. Play the matches either at Lansdowne, or split between Lansdowne and Thomond. Split the profits between the league clubs.
If there was an average attendance of 25000, at €20 a ticket, that's half a million a game, so with 8 teams, 2 groups, semis and a final, that's 9 games, or 4.5 million, less expenses, to split among the clubs, or just over 200 000 a club.
That's just conjecture at figures, but I don't think there'd be a club in the league who'd turn their noses up at 20 000 even, so it could be well worth a shot.
Market it to the event junkies as a massive event with top European sides and I don't see any reason why there couldn't be those sorts of attendance figures at that sort of price.
Mind you, clubs would probably just juggle their budgets so they were still going bust with the extra money!
I couldn't see the barstoolers getting out for PSV and Everton. Sorry, but thats just my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by peadar1987
It was done a few years back. LoI champions v three invited clubs; semi finals and final/third placed play off all in Lansdowne. Pat's played Liverpool and the loser of Leeds and Lazio. Derry beat Celtic and played Newcastle, who beat Ajax in the other semi? Dunno how it worked exactly, but it was a good idea. Although obviously summer soccer will make it harder to organise now, as it was a pre-season tournament for all the sides.
what year was that?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Around 97/98. Derry and Pat's were league champions the previous seasons.
RTÉ showed all the games live too, I think.
I was just thinking about that yesterday, it was called the Umbro Cup or something wasn't it?. The games were on TV alright but I think it may have been Sky rather than RTE or maybe they both showed them I don't know.
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Some info about it. Can't find anything about the Newcastle game online although I know there's footage of both games out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Derry City 3-2 Celtic, 15th July 1997
PSV Eindhoven 2-2 Celtic, 16th July 1997
Different competition but a couple of days later:
St. Pats 1-1 Celtic, 18th July 1997
As a Newcastle supporter I remember the tournament alright!!! Its the only thing we've won in years and we're still celebrating it!!!!
I'm nearly sure it was called the Carlsberg Cup but not 100% sure on that!!! Kenny Dalglish was in charge of Newcastle at the time.
Newcastle beat Derry 2-0 in the Final.
Coverage was on Sky because I remember looking for it on RTE but they didn't show it live only the highlights.
Yeah, it was the Carlsberg Cup. The following year featured Liverpool, Lazio, Leeds, and St.Patrick's Athletic. Leeds won I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Town Legend
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LIVERPOOL were given a searching work-out by Premier Division Champions, St Patrick's Athletic, in the opening game of last night's Carlsberg Cup Tournament before 20,000 fans at Landsdowne Road.
http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer...8/01/phead.htmQuote:
LEEDS UNITED are through to met old rivals Liverpool in today's final of the Carlsberg Cup at Lansdowne Road after seeing off Italian Serie A side Lazio in a penalty shoot-out, last night.
Simple, use the contacts that Brady,Trapp & Tardelli have, i'm sure it might open their eyes to what is happening in the league. don't we have a dutch guy in charge of the under age section, and Pakie Bonner works for the FAI. The simple fact is that clubs are very close to being wound up and something should be done sooner rather than later. On the flip side who would get what, or would it be split evenly? should Bohs get the same amount as Kildare ... why not use the money from the opening game in the Aviva for the league teams or will the FAi say that they are giving out enough money to clubs allready????Quote:
Originally Posted by L.T.F.C.
what? Do you seriously think first of all that Brady,Trapp & Tardelli give a fvck whats happening in the LOI? Second of all do you think that a phone call from Brady,Trapp & Tardelli will entice European opposition to come to Ireland. Do you not think that that the big boys in within these clubs will even pass much heed when neither Brady,Trapp nor Tardelli even look at the LOI for players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Tardelli stomped around Flancare.....
unfortuneatly not for the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonnieB
It's not "investors" that Limerick is in need of. That suggests a group of people with either an expectation of a financial return for any money they put in (zero chance) or happy to bank-roll the club themselves (completely unsustainable).Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC-Zulu
What Limerick needs is to operate within its financial limits, and to only increase spending when income increases. The same for every other club.
FFS everyone - what's with the mad cap plans as a pipe-dream for making Irish football work ?Quote:
Originally Posted by olegunnar
Here's a crazy idea - how about clubs just don't spend any more money than they have ? It's a bit leftfield, I know - but it just might work.
And it certainly makes more sense than hoping glamour friendlies can bail us out once a year. The key word is 'sustainable'. Relying on anyone outside of our league to keep us afloat is simply not sustainable. We need to be masters of our own destiny.
And what's this idea about the FAI being responsible for bailing clubs out who keep making stupid fcuking decisions ? Club and fans have to grow up and accept that those responsible for keeping a club afloat are first and foremost the Board and the supporters.
I'm not deliberately having a go at you OG, but your suggestions aren't at all feasible.Quote:
Originally Posted by olegunnar
Firstly- how are we going to attract more than one or two clubs to Ireland at any one time without better facilities ? Sports facilities in the country are poor.
Secondly - our weather is unreliable.
Thirdly - overseas pre-season taining camps are used not just to start off preparation for a season, but also as a bit of a treat for the team. That's why clubs go to nice, warm destinations like Spain, Portugal, Florida etc.
We'd be kidding ourselves if we think more than the occasional big club would want to come to Ireland with our poor facilities, shaky weather and distinct lack of glamour/attraction as a destination. We get lower Championship or First Division level clubs (e.g. Milwall) on tours as Ireland is about as high as they can aim.
And again - what's with the 'FAI must do SOMETHING bullsh!t ?!? They tried tournaments like Carlsberg before, and the Irish public had very little interest.
Aww, but when you do follow that model, and spend your money on developing the game for the future, you are not "ambitious" apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Personally I think every club's main "ambition" should be to stay in football.
I remember going to that Carlsberg tournament as a kid, and the ignorance of the barstoolers, not just about the game, but towards LOI fans, was shocking. Liverpool beat us 4-3 in the end, but we gave them a good game of it. I think we were 3 or 4-1 down at one stage, but fought back, and Eddie Gormley scored the third some time late in the second half, at which a lot of barstoolers got up and left in disgust because "we should be battering them". I was about ten or eleven and couldn't believe the inherent stupidity of people over twice my age... Conversion? I don't think so.
Liverpool beat Leeds 2-0 in the final for what it's worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by thischarmingman
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What Limerick needs is to operate within its financial limits, and to only increase spending when income increases. The same for every other club.[/quote]
Its a mystery to all in Limerick how we're all of a sudden in financial difficulties.Limerick pay the players very little and it costs around 500euro per game to rent Jackman Park while averaging about 650/700 per home game along with draws and other events run by the supporters,its hard to fathom how our out goings could be dragging down the club to the possibility of being wound up.
http://www.limerickleader.ie/sport/L...-to.5365978.jp
Piece in local paper today. club haven't released a statement because there is nothing to report.