In order to figure it out who the bohs player is, look at this weeks lineup and see if anyone who plays in midfield or defence is missing who would normally play, I have a slight idea already who it is but im not guna say!
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In order to figure it out who the bohs player is, look at this weeks lineup and see if anyone who plays in midfield or defence is missing who would normally play, I have a slight idea already who it is but im not guna say!
Really, thats how you'd define racism?Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator
No, that wasn't a definitive description. It was simply an example of something which I'd consider to be racism -including physical exclusion among others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
All I'm saying is that people over-react to 'racist comments' when it involves a supposed minority, but, as one poster said, he wouldn't consider calling an Irish man a 'Paddy' a racist slur. If the player in question has maliciously targeted Boco with real venom and disgust, then yes, I suppose it can be considered racist, but since we don't know exactly what was said, it could possibly only be harmless name-calling in the midst of the game.
Harmless name-calling? Will you ever go and ****e. Any racist remark is not even slightly harmless. Stop being a bloody apologist.
think we all know who it is at this stage!! just seen the team there and a name stands out that isnt there alrite!Quote:
Originally Posted by Black and White
Centre Half?Quote:
Originally Posted by Weatherman
thats the one!
A certain centre half was sitting in Block B tonight, didn't manage to make the bench strangely enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by City till I Die
no mention of him being injured or suspended for the match either so i presume its him involved?
Point is, you don't know until the facts are out. I'm not advocating racism here!Quote:
Originally Posted by LeixlipRed
McGuinness???Quote:
Originally Posted by Weatherman
A pr!ck that uses race to attack another person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
The worst you've heard my arse.
I saw we nuke Dalymount from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
But what if we get, ahem, you know, one of them?Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
if you where to do that you could ruin there chances of bohs making a killing on the sale of dalymount, which could make them the richist club in the land, bloody hell what a great idea sell the ground make a fortune and move out to the sticks and build a new cheap ground ,why have they not thought of this beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by John83
Whatever you're opinions on the punishment from the FAI surely if proven Bohs cannot keep this player in the squad? Ffs what message would that send out to Ndo, or any other player for that matter.
When he's named he should be roundly booed by all fans in every game. show these *****s that it not acceptable
I don't agree. It needs to be open, let him explain himself to Boco, plead for an apology and just make it clear that he was acting the idiot.
It depends on the context, if he was hammering him with abuse all match then a different approach would need to be taken but if its just a comment it should be out in the open.
Agree, let McGuiness apologise, let the FAI fine him, whatever. Im sure he regrets it, so let it be and let it go. Im sure Rommy has forgotten about it by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishultra
these comments were nothing more than ignorance and without knowing the player am sure he regrets his stupity ,he should be punished but its important that we keep a perspective on this.
Indeed. Hang him I say ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
Absolutely the worst I've heard in person. Nothing even comes close tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
Well its as simple as this, I don't believe you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
First point is, if you say its the worst you've heard then it suggests you've heard other incidents of it. Of all my years watching playing I've never heard a player giving another player racist abuse, nor would I ever expect to.
Also, around the period in question I recall a match between Dundalk and St Pats when I was in the shed and I didn't hear a single racist comment during the whole match. Now, obviously I can't rule out the possibility of somebody said something. However, after the match St Pats fans were tripping over themselves to catalog a list of racist abuse with some claiming that a particular player got racist abuse 'every single time he touched the ball', which I can absolutely say was a load of b@llix. However, your claim that you heard a player giving racist abuse is a new one.
Did you make this accusation at the time of the incident or did you make it up since?
Fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
I've heard rascist abuse, just one the football field.Quote:
First point is, if you say its the worst you've heard then it suggests you've heard other incidents of it. Of all my years watching playing I've never heard a player giving another player racist abuse, nor would I ever expect to.
Ask over on www.saintsforum.net whether anyone else has memories of the incident? I guarantee you others willQuote:
Also, around the period in question I recall a match between Dundalk and St Pats when I was in the shed and I didn't hear a single racist comment during the whole match. Now, obviously I can't rule out the possibility of somebody said something. However, after the match St Pats fans were tripping over themselves to catalog a list of racist abuse with some claiming that a particular player got racist abuse 'every single time he touched the ball', which I can absolutely say was a load of b@llix. However, your claim that you heard a player giving racist abuse is a new one.
You didn't hear, fair enough. But don't ****ing patronise meQuote:
Did you make this accusation at the time of the incident or did you make it up since?
I have to say in the most part that racist abuse is non exsistent in the Loi and its along time since I heard anything in the Showgrounds. The Bohs lad probably reacted after Boco made a fool of him for most of the game, well played Boco for winding him up....
I think you'll find that it's spelled patronise or even patronize.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
He hee he.Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Don't patonise him! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Any idea of what sanctions Bohs imposed?
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...w-1720612.htmlQuote:
Bohs are said to have hit the player in question with a heavy fine and Fenlon believes that the requisite action has been taken.
I see the player in question was named during lunch. Reading Fenlon's comments don't come across well. It's bloody very serious matter.
Fenlon fined him & dropped him from the squad for last Friday. He also made him apologise to the player & Cook after the game. I think you'll find Fenlon is taking it serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafa B
Also I can't believe I'm typing this, but Roddy was right last night on MNS. Ringing up Curtis Fleming in Middlesborough for f**ks sake. Whole segment devoted to something where nobody even knows what the player said.
Why don't they ring Joey Ndo see how he treats him in training and the dressing room.
I'd imagine nearly everyone knows what was said at this stage in fairness. Obviously we can't talk about it here but its pretty much common knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by wexfordned
it's a disgrace the player should'nt be allowed play in this league again
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Bohs confirm disciplinary action
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The club has made written submissions to the FAI Disciplinary Committee in relation to the Sligo incident. The committee will hold a hearing on the case on 6th May. The board of Bohemian FC states that this is the proper forum for adjudication of the evidence on this incident.
Bohs are dealing with it well IMO. Internal discipline and then hand the case over to the league. Its up to them if they further sanction is neccesary.
BURN HIM!!!!!
Burn him with FIRE!!!!!!
:rolleyes:
Read an interview with Clarence Seedorf in World Soccer once which was pretty much spot on with regards to racism in football.
Still, you'll always find enough people looking for a direction in which to wring their hands, furrow their brows and have a good long tut......
OK, the man misconducted himself in the heat of the moment, he aplogised directly after the game to the individual on the receiving end of the unacceptable comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by southside hoop
Now if you can take off your anti-Bohs goggles for a minute , do you truly believe that he should be deprived of his livelhood against that background? We have had habitual cocaine users in the league who have not faced the type of sanction proposed by you.
By all means use the general issue as a stick to beat Bohs with, but continuing to ratchet up a campaign for an individual player to be put on the scrap heap and branded a "racist" is grossly unfair.
Interesting question. Is a rascist worse than a cokehead?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower