as you said above its a given managers congratulate & respect each others achievements so he did not have to be asked could have mentioned in his interview :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Denis The Red
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as you said above its a given managers congratulate & respect each others achievements so he did not have to be asked could have mentioned in his interview :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Denis The Red
He was quoted as saying that the only difference between Man Utd and Liverpool was that Man Utd can spend loads of money on each player that they buy. Obviously nothing to do with Fergie making better signings than him...Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
I didnt say that - I said that at their best, Liverpool are better than mdy could have lived with Liverpool at home against Real Madrid for example and for 10 minutes against arsenal they were awesomeQuote:
Originally Posted by Axe Man
But they are carrying some passengers and overall man U are better and more consistent
How come no one speaks of the elephant in the sitting room?
Remember refeering decisions in the Bolton and Spurs games . THAT'S where the league was won!
Benitez congratulated Man U on winning the league so what more can be said. Think the attack on him from Ferguson and Fat Sam might have something to do with him not congratulating Fergie by name. Just my guess.
I've said it before on another thread and I'll say it again.
Man City beat United twice last season but this does not make them a better team. Liverpool bottled it in January and Man Utd proved their credentials (once again) by winning x games on the bounce like champions.
Liverpool have the biggest squad in the Premiership. Fact. If he offloaded all this excess wastage then maybe he could afford to bring in new players on decent wages.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ue-huge-squads
62 players.
The best team wins the league over the season. Don't see the point in arguing over results during the season and squads.
And indeed it turned out to be a small matterQuote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
I agree. I had a lot of time for Benitez the person before this season. Never liked his style of play or choice of players but at least he seemed gracious in defeat (and victory). He's has come across bitter and jealous this season. The talk about money is just stupid. You don't hear Martin O'Neill saying the only difference between Villa and Liverpool is they have more money. Stupid talk and for the record there hasn't been much between the clubs spending really, both massive amounts since Benitez arrived-Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Facts in figures
£221.95m: Manchester United’s gross spend on transfers (£147.90 million net) since June 2004, when Rafael Benítez was appointed Liverpool manager, up to and including January 2009 transfer window
£212.60m: Liverpool’s spending (£111.39 million net) during same period
Yes because it's a fact that United would have drawn/lost both those matches and everybody knows that leagues are won over two matches, not 38. Also if you want to go down that road Bolton had a perfectly good goal disallowed against Liverpool (by the same referee) and Alonso scored from a free kick that never was against Hull. Pointless argument I admit.Quote:
Originally Posted by smasher
I know that wasn't easy for you Rafa so fair play!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafa B
People liked Benitez because he was too nice and he played the game. He was called arrogant, unfairly, by Ferguson. Why should he praise someone who insults him? What type of person would?
He has praised the club, end of story.
Maybe, because it's not an elephant in the corner at all....only to bitter people with a myopic view of things?Quote:
Originally Posted by smasher
Have to be honest at the end of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I dont know what the big issue is here, stop getting your knickers in a twist, the league table doesn't lie. The best team over the league season wins it and this season that was United. However, Liverpool have progressed in the league. Personally, I think it was a golden opportunity to win the league and it was wasted over the new year period. This summer is massive. Rafa messed up in the transfer market last season. I dont buy any of this Parry nonsense and Rafa doesnt fool me for one sec with his political games. Not one of his signings were good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I think united will be strong again next season with or without Tevez. I am very worried about Chelsea. I have to admit that I like Hiddink, the man. He has a certain dignity about him that I really like and IF Chelsea manage to keep hold of him for next season, I cant see anyone else beating them over a league season. I know he is going but I just have a sneaky suspicion that he may stay for another season. If he goes, Ancelotti will most likely come in. His style mirrors that of JM. Chelsea in that mold will be right up there in the title race.
Looking at Arsenal on Saturday, they are not as far off the pace as people think. With 1 or 2 good experienced defensive signings and an season free of widespread injuries, they will come right back into the picture.
As special note for Roy Hodgson and Fulham. From relegation to europe. A brilliant season by a club that I have always had a soft spot for. Lovely place to go and watch a game of football (when you dont have a restricted view seat). Hodgson is a true gent of the game. Well done, sir. Danny at the hub as well. SW6 is wonderful and all that.
Only stating a FACT, rendering what happened thereafter to be highly questionable. These wrong decisions were influential to the final league standings and must not be ignored.Quote:
Originally Posted by Armando
Do you care to offer an opinion on the decisions that went Liverpool's way that I mentioned above, seeing as you're intent on pursuing this avenue of injustification?Quote:
Originally Posted by smasher
Agree with most of your post but not sure where this line came from.Quote:
Originally Posted by reder
Should be anyway assuming Spurs don't win at Anfield coupling with them losing at home to Everton. Totally agree though Hodgson is a top man. His response to Redknapps opinion on foreign refs was great last week as well. Fulham are actually very good to watch as well despite their lack of goals and watertight defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by reder
Just feel people are making too much out of Rafa not thanking Alex F. Far more relevant things, which you have mentioned, to dicuss in relation to the top of the PL. Its a nothing side issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Hangeland and Paintsil are excellent defenders. Id say a few of the top clubs will be sniffing around them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
an even more recent decision on sunday against west brom with liverpool leading 1-0 lucas blatent foul on fortune as he was about to score no penalty says ref liverpool go onto win 2-0 and west brom get relegated how is that for injustice to west brom :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Saw in one of the newspapers today a journalist was picking the best United team of the Ferguson years - I thought it might be interesting to do that here. Mine would be;
Schmeichel
G Neville Vidic Ferdinand Irwin
Beckham Keane Scholes Giggs
Van Nistelrooy Cantona
Wouldn't fault that side. Suppose Pallister, Stam, Evra, Ronaldo and Rooney would also be in the running. Kanchelskis was class back in the day too. It's be some bench with VDS sub keeper as well!!
Edit: The bench would have to include Ole Gunnar though!!
I'd have Rooney in for Cantona but that's about itQuote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Ronaldo for Beckham in my opinion.
Its a league. Over the course of the season, decision go for you and against you. Liverpool got decision for them throughout the season. They did worse that Man Utd in the League, FA Cup, Champions League and Carling Cup and yet Benitez says that Liverpool are a better team and he refused to congratulate Ferguson, something that is done by all rival managers even Wenger and Ferguson when each one the league. As I said before this season I had a lot of time for Benitez as a person but he has become very bitter and myopic and I think the song the Man Utd fans sing seem to be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by smasher
How about the worst?
--------------------Taibi----------------
???????------Prunier-----Blanc-----Heinze
--------------Djemba-Djemba------------
---------Kleberson---------Veron--------
------Bellion-------------------Nani------
-------------------Forlan----------------
I know Heinze doesn't deserve to be there but that's what happens when you try to join the Pool !!! beware Carlos!! I'm also aware that Forlan doesn't deserve to be there as he came good in the end I just couldn't think of anyone else. It's hard to find crap full backs!!
David May was rubbish at full back when he played there Decent centre back though. What about Bardsley at right full
Up front you could have Nevland
Yes Nevland is far more appropriate than Forlan in fairness. He actually seems to be a decent enough finisher though just never got any games at United. It was at a time they had Cole/Yorke with Solskjaer/Sheringham in reserve. It'd be a bit harsh on May I think, there's surely someone more deserving that actually specialises in the full back role...not sure Bardsley is deserving of it either. Did ok the odd time he played I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
all the abu's would say gary neville :D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I would be as anti-united as possible but Neville was a top player for united for years. Guy who keeps out of the media spotlight, loyal as hell to his club, only ever played for one club over a whole PL career. A model professional in truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
I'm only guessing but I'd say theres worse players in those positions than Blanc and Veron :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
You youngsters clearly don't remember the halcyon days of crap Man U teams under SAF
1 Jim Leighton
2 Mal Donaghy
3 Lee Martin
4 Clayton Blackmore
5 Graeme Hogg
6 Neil Webb
7 Danny Wallace
8 Mike Phelan
9 Peter Davenport
10 Ralph Milne
11 Mark Robins
Sub Arthur Albiston
Paul Parker
For all that Veron failed to make an impact, he wasn't a bad player for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
Blanc was on his last legs though, and while there were touches of quality (I recall a striker racing towards goal, ball at his feet, and Blanc leisurely strolling up and poking the ball off his toe to one of the full backs; another had him beaten for pace, but was put off by a simple tap on the elbow just long enough for Blanc to catch him), he wasn't up to their usual standard of starting centre halves.
How many of those players did he buy? I don't doubt there was a lot of deadwood when he took over - they were in similar shape to Newcastle now as I understand it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angus
Anyway, I think it's more interesting to limit it to players involved in his successful teams.
Don't mock - if all goes well, that team will be coming to the Bowl next year. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Angus
Ya for some reason I was doing a Premier League yrs team. Probably assumed this from the original best team that was picked. It was all PL players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angus
Blanc was well passed it by the time he went to United and Veron was a major disappointment. At their best obviously both would be a million miles from this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
You slag the youngsters and then go and pick Albiston anywhere near a worst 11!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Angus
I wouldn't have Parker or Robins in there either, and it's very hard to put Lee Martin in there considering his contribution to sparking the whole thing off. And Sunbed come to think of it - the free's in the early rounds of the cup winners cup and clearing off the line in Rotterdam.
How about Terry Gibson and Mark Gibson? A few of Fergies Fledglings didn't turn out to be quite as hot as New Years Day 1989 would've suggested either, but for that day alone they are exempt!
would have gary birtles in at no 9... / les sealy in goalsQuote:
Originally Posted by Angus
robins a bit harsh probaly saved fergie from the sack :p scoring winning goal against notts forest and lee martin scored winner in a replayed f.a cup final also ..
Major disappointment or not I'd imagine his contribution was better than Liam Miller for oneQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
And many more besides no doubt, I didn't realise this little bit of fun was going to come before such scrutiny though, my bad:oQuote:
Originally Posted by gustavo