sorry for my writingQuote:
Originally Posted by Redshanks
but didnt know it was an english lesson
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sorry for my writingQuote:
Originally Posted by Redshanks
but didnt know it was an english lesson
Is that all you learnt?
Lads - todays (Thursday)Irish Times states cobh are only expected to be given an A League license
did you expect any thing less if you have not organised your club to pay your debts, or spent the months leading up to the granting of the licence in fighting you get what you deserve.
I was informed they did not want to air their dirty linen to everyone, but even the dogs in the street knew what was going on.
You cannot blame infighting, why like all other clubs in the LOI who had the same problem did you organise a new supporters group and start fundrasing to sort out the clubs finance.
Cork City, Athlone, Drogheda to name a few.
With all the meetings you had over the last 5 or so months did the commette ever think of organising funrasing nights ect or did they think if the buried their heads in the sand all would be ok.
You spent all the time on this forum making comments on each other, you blaming the FOCER'S and they blaming you and in the middle you had the Chairman saying that Cobh was not in trouble and if you play in AChampionship its a step back but next year you will be back up playing 1st Div.
Well you will have to win the A league to get back up, no one can say you have a god given right to do that.
You still have the debts to clear how is that going to happen if supporters are not going to support A LEAGUE football.
This is my two pence... as a club inc the supportors you all sat on the fence thinking someone was going to sort out the problems and now they have not.
I agree and disagree with your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sub
Yes, us members and supporters should have done a lot more then what was done instead of getting caught up with all the in-fighting that was going on in the club.
But when ideas were put to the members by the chairman there was alot of opposition to them by individuals with-in the club, and this has held the club back in trying to move forward.
So maybe we are getting what we deserve for our lack of action over the last few months/years, but we will be back, bigger and stronger then ever.
what do we do now do you think? i personally think the A league would be a disaster we would still have to travel around the country but with no real income coming in to the club in terms of bums on seats.
I know the true fan will be at the games supporting the team.
I know I'll be there as often as possible, and I'll travel to as many away games as possible (better get thinking of some new excuses to get time off work for the new season)
So regardless of what division we're in this coming season let us get behind the club and support it what ever way we can.
I agree 100% but its trying to attract people to the games will be the problem, but lets be positive at least we are still open it could have been a lot worse
Marketing Marketing Marketing for both the Team and the Clubhouse. . Our current circumstance is not unrecoverable. It just needs alot of working on to return it to normal.
Munster Senior League-The only option in my opinion.I for one will not be attending "A" league games not a hope in hell but I would relish the chance of supporting a local team against the likes of Avondale,Douglas Hall etc.Under the current crop mistakes have been made but dropping into this joke of a division would be a disaster it just wont work theres no posatives at all to be taken from it.
well were trying to get a group together in the clubhouse sunday evening, to see if we can brainstorm any good ideas for fundraising, as soon as a time is set, all will know, and all will be welcome
8.30pm
We are where we are so lets adjust and work hard to make a success of it going forward.
1. When Dan and John prepared the budget that was put before us a couple of meetings back, they did so based on a model designed for the 1st Division, but as accountants, they worked it on very conservative gate figures. I still feel, although those figures will be down, as we are in the A League, they wont be that far down.
2. Since many of the expected players that might have hung around for the 1st Division (wont play for no pay) it will be mainly local lads who will line out for us this year. It wont be MSL (as they will get some form of payback at end of season, as was pointed out by john at last weeks meeting) but it will for all intents and purposes be a local team. That will mean more local families and friends will come in the gate to see them play.
3. As Sniffer already mentioned, off-field fundraising and clubhouse entertainment will also need to be stepped up bigtime, and current boycotts will have to be suspended by those who claim to be 'Real' club-people.
We may not win any titles or silverware in year one of this new direction, but we will certainly make big inroads into clearing club debts, paying off creditors, saving and building credit off-field, building a team on field, and allowing our pitch and facilities to other under age teams who are in fact, the future of this club!
Who said the future looks bad?
Is there anything official on which league we are in?
:rolleyes: Go out and support your club - they need you now more than ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by marty
I think this is a mature and measured approach to the situation. Building organically is the only way to go. The glory days are over, but if you continue to build on this model, you'll soon be one of the most stable teams in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redshanks
Licenses are to be granted on the 16th February, with Fixtures released on the 20th. That's what I was told on another thread.
Are you for real... you are going backward in a club if that was the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by marty
At least if you stay in the A League you have a good chance of getting back in to LOI.
Its not a joke league from what I have seen, the players will have an opporunity to play against better player.
The A League was set up to ensure all senior player coming back from injury plus player on the verge of making the 1st team will get experance.
The under 20's league is a stepping stone for player just out of Youth teams to gain the experance to step up to the A league and then into the 1st team.
This is where a club will keep the best players and bring in the best player from out side the club who want to move into LOI or get spotted playing and move yo uk.
Over the last few week LOI clubs have made money,with un 20's and A League players moving to English clubs as they were spotted by scouts watching them play in higher standered leagues.
If they played AUL or MSL ,I do not think they would have been seen as scouts are not looking at these games and would be lost to the sport.
Can we wait for the official announcement before we all jump to conclusions on which league we are in. There is enough infighting without starting over something that isnt official.
Don Ramo that sounds like the most constructive thing I have seen on here in a long while well done.
Unfortuanatly I wont be able to make it but have one or two suggestions.
A 2 euro mile might be a good idea also this is just a suggestion keep the amount of money required small so that people will be more likely to give say 1 or 2 euro then give 5-10 now.
its great to hear something constructive instead of bitching i think we need to get the schools involved in some way like if some pupils in the schools who already go to the rams matches try to get their friends to buy tickets for the games and then reward them by saying for example if you sell 5 or 10 tickets to a home game you get in free yourself with a free programme. These kids are our clubs future then we could also look at some family packages which include a reseved area in the stand programmes and maybe a burger and chips from the van and a drink in the bar for the parents at halftime or at the end of the game for a certain price. Lets make colmans park an attractive place to go on friday or saturday night while not breaking the bank for people.
If were A League our matchs will be played in the afternoons!
No you won't. Mervue didn't win it this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sub
Why? The standard in the MSL is fairly terrible. It's just junior football under a different name to be frank.Quote:
Originally Posted by marty
Mervue did win the A League and beat Kildare in a play-off to gain 1st Division status!:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid
Until you've seen MSL football please don't right it off as IMO at least 3 MSL teams would blitz the 1st Division. Avondale, Rockmount and Douglas Hall. It's at the same standard if not higher than 1st Division football.
UCD won the A League. Mervue were the highest placed non-league team so they went into the play-off.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
Ramblers have a massive history in the MSL and there are teams like Avondale,Douglas Hall,Rockmount who would easily dispose of 1st division teams on their day.Theres no spice to the "A" league,no attendences,no coverage and nothing worth winning-I dont even know who won it last year,the MSL on the other hand has a local pedigree with some good players.Its just my opinion on things and I know for sure there will be a lot more like me who wont pay into that s#ite,Im alse fed up with the way the club is been run so another factor there...
What day is that, the 32nd of July?Quote:
Originally Posted by marty
if you go to MSL youll have to come back up through the A league, and anyway wanderers are the local MSL team, MSL is 25 years ago, and it can stay there, i dont want to drop a divison but it has to be it has to be, we should easily win that, last year there was only merview and salthill, thi year theres is it 3 new teams plus kildare and us, and most likely kildare will stay up if we go down,
and anyway, id prefer to wait to see what the story is before i jump to conclusions,
and BTW lads how many MSL games have ye seen, not all the teams are ****e, and like us years ago, should really be playing at a higher level,
If we go back to M.S.L we can kiss goodbye to the club.
If we're in that league we don't stand a chance in getting out of the sh!te we're in.
At least in the in the A league, we will have a good chance of getting back to the 1st division in a couple of seasons, we can get our house in order and start aiming to get back to premier league football.
Blitz is a bit of an overstatement isn't it? Have you heard what Fingal's team is gonna be? Do you really think Rockmount would comfortably finish ahead of Shelbourne? We played Douglas Hall in the cup two years ago, and whilst they gave us a good game we were still clearly the better side.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
As for yout current woes guys, I've made this suggestion on the Limerick forum and I think it could serve Cobh well too. Create a Junior Supporter's Clubs, and get 1 or 2 players to do the rounds of the local Primary schools and hand out membership cards after a short training session. We started the idea last year cause I was taken by surprise one day when the ex's little brother came running up to me to show me his Limerick 37 supporters card that himself and his classmates had been given for free by one of the players. He then started to bug his dad into bringing him to a game, such was his pride at being apart of a football team's supporters. Start targetting the new generation of fans, because the vast majority of the current crop are lost to watching Sky down the pub forever
As mentioned Mervue did not win the A league, they came forth and were winners of the play off but will they enter the first divison is another question. Douglas hall got wallopped by a mid prem Limerick league team in the FAI the other day. Couple of years ago Pike Rovers, to prove they were good went into the MSL. After winning it seven times running they withdrew as the Limerick Premier league is seen as a higher standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
That was Douglas Hall's second team who played in the FAI junior Cup
[QUOTE=gael353;1102385 but will they(Mervue) enter the first divison is another question.[/QUOTE]
There is no question. They will be playing in the First Division this year. Are playing in Terryland until they hope to get stand erected in Fahy's Field.
Are heading off on 4-day training camp to Spain in mid-February. Whether they will be competitive or not is another question.
That is one of the best ways to get people in.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Get the players to make themselves more popular with kids, kids want to go
to games to see the lads who trained them in school, parents have to pay in to
bring the kids, kids buy stuff in the shop, Dads get to head out and meet their mates
for 2 hours under the guise of looking after the kids, everyones a winner! :D
Not wanting to stick the boot into a very good side, but we beat Douglas Hall 5-0 in the Cup in 2006 I think, when we were absolute sh!te (though Prem at the time, we were a far, far worse side than now, it was pretty much the only game we won all year)Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
Ah stop! Your seeing things through rose tinted glasses. Saying the Limerick Junior premier league is superior to the MSL is just nonsense!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
You registered just to say that? :D The MSL is Senior in name only. It's hardly representative of the whole province either. The top teams in Limerick's junior set up would be of comparable standard to the MSL's best. I'm not going to dismiss the MSL en masse but there are 'junior' sides in Limerick (and Tipperary, Kerry and Waterford for that matter) who are just as good as the likes of Douglas Hall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ordinary Joe
Of course there are good sides in other leagues, that's not in dispute. But saying that Pike had to leave the MSL to get a better standard of football was plain nonsense. It's a pity that the top sides in Munster are not keen in joining the A league or in competing in some form of regional league. Wouldn't it be great to see Rockmount v Fairview, Douglas Hall v Pike or Avondale V Carrick. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid
it was a big decision by rams also to join the league, not every club can just join the league, we were dominateing MSL, so our only challenge was LOI football, and overall the goods outweighted the bads,
and of course thats my opinion, there has been more good than bad
I would personally much prefer to see that. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ordinary Joe
If the Limerick league is so hot how come they were beaten this year by the Cork AUL in the Oscar Traynor Cup and we all know that the AUL wouldn't ever beat the MSL. However, Pike, Carrick, Clonmel and Lisselton (Kerry) should all lobby to form a Munster League with the best of the MSL. That would be a great league to play in.Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid