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Originally Posted by SMorgan
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Neither do Drogheda....Quote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
We still play in Turners Cross though, the best ground in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
You're a funny guy :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
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Originally Posted by micls
Yes we do .we just have it wrapped up in legal nonsense so it cant be sold from under us to pay our debts ;)
Sure you do...keep telling yourselves that if it makes you feel better.Quote:
Originally Posted by ndrog
how do we not ? who owns our staduim then ?
That would be the FAI...or did you miss that deal where you sold it to them?Quote:
Originally Posted by ndrog
You're wrong Micls. It can only be sold if the proceeds are used to build a new stadium for the club, proceeds that the club get (less €50k owed to the FAI).
The FAI cannot sell it or give to anyone else. Theoretically the MFA could kick Cork City out and give the ground to another Cork team. That cannot happen to United Park.
exactly - deal was done in early 80's. Funny how some on this site seem to make out it was a recent deal of some sorts. Lucky it was done or else I am sure since then Utd park would have gone down the Milltown route.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
Irrelevant. The FAI own the ground, even though there are conditions attachedQuote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
Only if there were another team playing league football, Cobh for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
However it has no relevance. Im not claiming we own the ground, or that the situations are the same.
Im simply saying you dont own United Park. This is a fact. If you did, you could use it to ensure you didnt go to the wall on thursday. If you do go to the wall on Thursday then Im sure the FAI will let some other team use it
:confused: Where?Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanDrog
did you hear the one about the only club refused a prem licence 2008 due to its playing surface and then had to replace same surface to obtain a licence for the 2009 season who came on to this thread complaining about other grounds pitches. stones and glasshouses my sonQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lilywhites
Giller to take over Drogs managerial role?!!??
Exactly - just as the bank own everyone's home.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
If the same tests that were applied to our pitch were applied to Monaghan's cabbage patch i'm sure it would have failed to. Your pitch is an absolute disgrace. Bumpy and overgrown is an understatement.Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
Em no.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
Im sure you know full well the difference but in just in case.
In a mortgage, a bank loans you money. You use the money yo buy a house. You owe the bank money. Of course if you don't pay, the bank can go after your assets i.e. the house.
In your situation, you sold your ground to the FAI. Yes there were conditions, the fact that it would only be sold to help you buy a new stadium.
Its quite simple, if you owned United Park you probably wouldnt be in examinership. You'd have it as an asset that can keep you alive.
Your club might go to the wall on Thursday because you dont own United Park.
But if you wanna believe differently work away
Has it struck anyone as kindof odd that the government has had no input into this at all.Here we have an industry that employs people who pay their taxes,or are supposed to anyway,in difficulty.If jobs go the taxes will be lost and labour will have to be paid out.Why are they not involved in some supportive manour as they would in any other industry.Ironic that it is they who are the major threatening debtors in the Drogs case.
I havent even mentioned the fact that if the league was finacially supported the anual leaue winners might be able to compete in Europe and would maybe fill the empty hotel rooms when the visiting teams come to play in the champions league.In other countries its called tourism income?
Buit I suppose we dont need the money that other countries relish.Ours has to be bringing Americans to castles.Money is Money no matter what the scvource??
The government has much bigger problems than the league right now.
Exactly, they are prepared to let SMEs go belly up even when they are trying to keep up with a thriving demand, not having ring fenced any money to help support them.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
That and they might bankrupt the country with whole the banking thing. Y'know, trivial stuff like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Keep believing Micls - why don't you ask Paul Doolin - he knowsQuote:
Originally Posted by micls
Keep believing what? It doesnt make a tap of difference to me either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
Im simply looking at the facts. You cant sell the ground to save your club because you dont own it. If you owned it you could.
Simple really....
Maybe its you who needs to keep believing Celdrog, heres a little song to help you ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
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Originally Posted by shelbourne1904
Even if the government had the slightest interest in helping the league out - which they don't - there wouldn't be an ounce of public sympathy for bailing out a league that most of the country at best ignore, and at worse look down on, that has got into trouble not through any change in market conditions or due to the credit crunch - but purely and solely because it can't run itself anything close to sensibly.
I wouldn't even support a government bail out for an industry like that.
Clubs are trying to keep up with thriving demand? Come on. Even for you, that's ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
You're doing that thing again ... twisting the words. It works most of the time for ya Stu ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
No, I quoted you word for word. There's no club in this league beating customers away with a stick. There's no club in this league "trying to keep up with a thriving demand".
I agree with Pineapple Stu, youre talking DUNG "AFACE"....
And as for your Celdrog, I am right behind you kid as every genuine fan is also that the Drogs come out and I for one "BELIEVE" they will as well as keep their Premier Division status!
Stu, i didn't mean to imply that any club was in that position. I was commenting on the inaction of the government to assist SMEs in the business community (not football clubs).Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
To which i said .... Exactly and then supporting the notion that they couldn't give a toss about the leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by John83
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Originally Posted by A face
I would be too, but i hope your not confusing the debate of Drogs owning or not owning their ground (how many posts was there on it?) with me wishing Drogs well in court/examinership/licensing/etc. .... especially since what our club has gone through recently. Dont even try and presume that i wouldn't wish them well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey Cow
Fair enough. Putting it in a thread about football clubs kind of implies that the SMEs you were talking about were football clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
I don't think any business in the country is struggling to meet thriving demand either, mind.
I know, i should have read over it before posting, i'll always doing it though :oQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I would have thought so as well but we're wrong apparently. A few businesses that need to expand with demand cant because the cant secure funds from banks or government.Quote:
I don't think any business in the country is struggling to meet thriving demand either, mind.
You've lost me...the discussion was about if they own United park or not :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey Cow
What is an SME?
Small to Medium Enterprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrufil
Kinda like Finn Harps so:p
I agree, because the government and the public have, historically, every right to pour nothing but bottomless scorn on the LoI. How about LoI clubs deciding to run themselves efficiently and then looking for financial support in order to progress once they have realistic and attainable development plans? Surely that's not too much to ask?Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
It's at least a more dignified form of begging.
Untrue to say that no one complained about Monaghans pitch in the past, Gareth Cronin certainly did last season. Back on topic though Oriel would be the obvious place for DUFC to rent, how their fans would take to playing in a "bouncy castle" would be interesting. Would Morton Stadium not be more accessible to DUFC? Possibly closer as well than Oriel.
I think you'll find the closest ground for us to play in next season is United Park. All will revealed in the next few days ............
If Drogs get to play premier division football in that kip next season & with the same board of directors we might as well put Borat in charge of FAI licencingQuote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog