Fenlon to exit next ?
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...y-1608935.html
Fenlon to exit next ?
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...y-1608935.html
That does not look good at all :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fintan Cassidy
I wonder in terms of the job that Roddy is heading to if he knows what he is doing. In regards to how things are done in the North I know for a fact that to help 'clean up' Belfast City centre they used the device of identifying the people who lived in troublesome areas (and this has nothing to do with their political beliefs) and then enticed them to live outside the city by offering better houses and flats with cheaper rates. The centre was then much safer but the trouble makers were just shifted to another town and are currently causing all sorts of rancour in places that were previously regarded as peaceful places to live and grow up in. It is like knocking down a house that is infested with rats and expecting the rats not to show up in the next available house. The regeneration part of any Northern area will not occur without the step above first happening. This is hardly a gallant job for anyone to aspire to, thus to me this shows how bad things must really be under the surface at Bohemians FC.
I await the next Bohs episode - I think this is where the script writers of Lost should research their next series! ;)
Is anyone really that suprised at this?... no money, no Fenlon!
No offence Srufil, yer talking through yer hoop.
You have no understanding of what the job he has taken is.
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Originally Posted by Scrufil
I'd be grateful if you could provide any form of source or reference to the claim that Belfast cleared up its city centre through some sort of Orwellian criminal cleansing drive.
If only for the fact that the centre of Belfast has been a ghost town for decades, as no-one really lives there.
I'm also intrigued that you think that the social problems of Northern towns, unrelated to politics, differ so significantly than they do elsewehre in Ireland or in Britain that such drastic measures need to be taken.
In summary - I think you're full of sh!t..... :D
Not getting involved in this one but some councils have been at that for a while now. Basically shuffling people around and causing more damage in the long run. There has been loads of noise made by local councillors about it (and said councillors have been attacked for making noise about it)Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
[off-topic]only flaw there is that our councils arent really that involved in social housing afaik. they empty the bins and thats about it. its the housing executive (NI-wide) and various housing associations that handle that[/off-topic]
personally think that this is another blow to bohs. no matter what the reason, to have a CEO leave so soon after appointment can only add to whatever other hassles the club is having. did youse ever get rid of that board?
Okay here is just one simple example. All during the Troubles, as that period is apt to be known as, the town of Bangor was a tourist town that was barely touched by any form of conflict. How do I know? I had 2 sisters living there. Then the powers that be decided to build, build and build and ship the riff raff of Belfast out there. Since then the rate of crime has risen dramatically.How do I know this? I have an aunt who worked as a solicitor and another aunt who worked as a social worker in Belfast. They saw in reality what was going on. One of the b*stards they let into the area killed one of my sisters after her living there peacefully for about 20 years. Also may I add it was after the Good Friday agreement so there was no political reason. She is now but a statistic but there have been a lot of others affected in the same place. I will not go on to list the names of other places that have been similiarly affected but don't you dare say that what I say is sh*t.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Scrufil,
No one is downgrading your story but it has absolutely no reference to the job Jim Roddy is taking on(can the mods please split off these threads).
The CCI works in a totally different sphere.
Fenlon is on Newstalk in a minute talking bout the situation.
http://www.setanta.com//uk/Articles/...wn/gnid-36312/
Jim Roddy has revealed to setanta.com the reasons why he resigned as CEO of Bohemians.
The shock decision comes on the back of him accepting the role of Chief Executive of the City Centre Initiative in his native Derry and barely been in the job at Dalymount Park for two months.
Having previously worked behind the scenes with Derry City, Roddy was brought to Bohemians with the goal of transforming them into a full-time outfit both on and off the pitch.
He recently revealed to setanta.com that he had big plans for the Dublin club and was working closely with manager Pat Fenlon ahead of the new Premier Division season, but the club will now have to find a replacement.
Roddy stated that he was sad to walk out on The Gypsies, yet he felt that he could not let the opportunity of working in such a vital position in Derry pass him by.
"It was a difficult decision to take, especially after only recently taking the job with Bohemians, but it is more of a personal issue," Roddy told setanta.com.
"There club were very understanding and I'm sure there will be a lot of disappointment felt by my departure, although taking this job really was a no-brainer for me.
"The job was advertised back in December and I applied for it, then I had an interview in January, and they got in touch to offer me the position. It is a great opportunity to represent the city of Derry.
"Of course it is sad to end my time with Bohemians before it really got going, but I do feel that I made some good progress in my time there. It is a huge club in League of Ireland terms and they gave me a job when I had been unemployed for 13 months, so I'm forever grateful to them."
The club's supporters may find themselves being slightly puzzled by Roddy's departure that comes so soon after Gerry Cuffe stepped down as Club President and the players rejected a reduction in wages.
However, Roddy doesn't think that last season's double winners are in any worse of a situation than other League of Ireland clubs and fully expects them to sort out their current issues.
"My decision to leave has no reflection on what is happening at Bohemians. It was a personal thing for me and I am leaving football altogether, so I don't want people to think that it was due to the club," explained Roddy.
"I've made it clear to the board that I'm available to take calls or offer advice if they need it. Obviously there are finanical constraints to take into account, not to mention the current recession, but the club is not on the verge of collapsing.
"They have some very committed people working behind the scenes as well as a superb manager in Pat Fenlon, who has been terrific at explaining to the players the need to work off a more realistic budget.
"Right now the club need to find the strength and character needed to drive them forward and sort out specific issues. I think they will get through it and I wish them all the best."
I have gone to the CCI website and read all the spin that it puts forth, but people do need to be made aware that muck goes on in the background. Most people cannot read between the lines of what is said there but I can. Roddy can go there if he likes but to me there is nothing great about what he is doing and there will always be a question mark over what he might or might not have done at Bohemians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maribor
A very brief response, as I don't want to dwell on this off-topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrufil
Basically what you've described is a process that happened in all big cities in this part of the world until recent times. It was called 'suburbanisation' : no-one wanted to live in the centre of cities any more, as they were seen as failing and unattractive, so homes were built near/on the edge of cities instead.
Your example of Bangor is no different than the example of Tallaght and other parts of the edge of North and West Dublin, for example ; or the growth of places on the edge of Derry like Culmore. People of all socio-economic classes moved to the edge of cities - not just the 'criminal classes' as you're claiming.
To suggest that this was driven primarily by a desire to 'clean-up' Belfast city centre is just wrong. It was just part of a process all Western cities went through. Hence I "dare to say" that what you're saying is sh!t.... :)
Now back to Seamus Roddy....
Although in Derry, there only really is the criminal classes....Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
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Originally Posted by Fintan Cassidy
Fintan ,theres as much chance of Fenlon leaving Bohs this season as there is of Finian Mc Grath resigning his Dail seat on a point of principle
Note my '?'
And I didn't write the article in the Indo.
And as with suburbanisation, they've long since moved to the fringes of the city - i.e. they're Donegal people now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Letterkenny - Ireland's largest open prison...