Now that's a songQuote:
Originally Posted by Pauro 76
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Now that's a songQuote:
Originally Posted by Pauro 76
Now if we are talking about major d*cks he must go down as one of the worst offenders in Irish music history. Where is he now I ask. A bitter twisted sad git is Fearghal McKee. Whipping Boy were a decent band but I saw them about 2 years ago in the Olympia after a long lay off and they were rubbish. One of the worst gigs I have ever been at.
Brutal song but then their P.R and Hype machine will kick in and thus people will feel they have to say its a good song.:mad:
But you Eamo know better than these weak people who succomb to hype. If only we could be as strong as you.
Watch the video doing the rounds. It will premier on ITV tonight, it will also be on the Irish independent's website later on this afternoon as well. Watch it! - then see if it's still a "big pile of s*it." Oh ye of little faith!
HA! He is a bit off alright, met him in Whelans one night and he kept trying to come on to one of my friends' girlfriends! He wouldnt give up even when she asked him not to. He's defo not all there either, poor fella!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
The Fly, can you see this video now?
Rovers1 - yeah I downloaded earlier. It will be on ITV tonight, at 11.30 I think. The video is amazing!:D
It's like a psychedelic Bond video. Watch out for the funny bit at the end - Bono punching through a concrete block.
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Originally Posted by The Fly
The song will still be gank,no matter what the video is like..
^ I respectfully disagree.
Again, the video is f**king amazing. ZOO TV meets Salvador Dali.
according to a few websites, the video didnt get released in time.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fly
Where did you download it from The Fly??
Just fly will do.
Rovers1 - I got a link to it from the 'U2 Interference' website. The link was to Megaupload, but it's no longer working. *I believe this was because of copyright issues. In the video, at least the one I have, you can see the - gettyimages - sign in the background. It probably has to be removed first.
Anyway, there are supposed to be 2 videos for the song. The one I have, which everyone on the U2 Interference forum is going ape**** about, and another one which is the same performance from the band but with a popart/cartoon backdrop to it.
They would be mad not release the former, it's the best video they have ever made! Believe me - nobody will hate the song after seeing the video. The best part is the "let my in the sound" part of the song in the video, when Bono is smashing the glass. Great!
I have it on my computer but I don't how to provide a link to it, so you can see it. All that is virgin territory for me.
P.S. Bono has his top off in part of it near the end. :eek:
*edit - after looking at U2 interference it seems the reason was because of a woman's breast showing in the video. SEXY BOOBS!
I've seen Whipping Boy have very good and very bad nights. Last time they played Limerick on their re-union tour the venue was crammed with event junkie dicks there to hear one or two songs. Beyond that the crowd largely ignored whipping boy and were downright abusive to supports. I suspect this was the same tour you saw them on.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
...wow. Bloke gets drunk and cracks on to girls ...and in a nightclub too!! Jaysis he's an awful demon that one. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovers1
Fly, you're evidently a U2 fan and I respect that. But here in your own words you're relegating the song to the role of soundtrack for the video. Maybe that's just the way rock'n'roll has gone since the rise of MTV -but it is nonetheless sad in every sense of the word.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fly
Let's not forget that they're songwriters ...great ones supposedly -not movie makers or video directors. Even if the video is the best thing since sliced pan -I think it unlikely their actual creative input, expressed as a percentage, would make it out of single figures.
...is the correct answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by the 12 th man
He has a very valid point Neil and it's fair to make it. If Get On Your Boots (horrific grammar btw) was released by an even moderately famous band it'd quite likely die on it's hole. But because of their sheer popularity and the inertia of the media -especially those who draw up playlists - it'll be rammed down throats until consensus is arrived at that it's great sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
The same can be said, I think, of much of their output in the last two decades which says to me they're still to an extent riding a quite remarkable wave created primarily by The Joshua Tree. It is no co-incidence, to my mind, that the best thing they've released since then was originally a b-side of one of the singles from the Joshua Tree.
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Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
Rubbish why do you have the ability to assess their music and dislike it but anyone who has likes it are just given into the media hype. It is fair enough to not like the music which is grand as music is about taste but no you and eamo go further than that and say that anybody that does like it are not equipped with the full critical capabilties that you are possessed with and are in effect drones of the media. What gave you the super powers to sit back and critique modern culture while most or all of the U2 fans become drones to it.
Finally I agree that the video will have not bearing on how good the song is. The video is basically a TV ad for songs anyway. If someone likes the song fair enough but the video will not convince somebody who hates the song to like it.
Christ Ritchie you are one bitter person!
Just saw the video on youtube. It is brilliant! Really does not look like a U2 video at all!!
Do you have a link.
looked through my browser history, went to the page and alas Universal took it down, copyright etc. It reminds me of MGMT's Time To Pretend.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
You'll have to show me where I rated my critique skills above anyone elses. A re-read of my previous post shows I've qualified pretty much every opinion as being mine alone. I'm sure there are many people, and not just U2 fans, out there that might like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
My point I believe was that their rather ordinary, unremarkable new single will be given a very easy ride not on it's stand alone merit but on the basis of who released it.
I didn't use the term 'drone' but it's not a bad description. We're going beyond U2 and the subject at hand now but ...yeah -I think there is a fairly huge constituency within the record buying public who buy, like and listen to pretty much what they're told to buy, like and listen to. The majors couldn't have become the majors without them.
um ...I found this crystal in the snow and...Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
wtf? :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Rovers1
Please keep up. The thread is about a song -not a video.
...now that's a decent song.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovers1
The beauty of music is that you can argue and treatise the topic ad nauseum - which can sometimes be worthwhile and interesting in itself - but you will always arrive back to one simple fact:
You either like it.......... or you don't.
Indeed Wolfie. I think it was Frank Zappa who said that for the most part -talking about music is like dancing about architecture.
Just on the subject of U2 if I may give some credit where I feel it's due. I've never been a fan as such though I acknowledge they occasionally have a fine tune. But (the credit's coming now I promise) they are men in their late 40's who've been doing this since their teens and who are going out on tour to promote their brand new album.
There are bands out there I really like ...The Who for example and of particular relevance The Rolling Stones who, since they were younger men than U2 are now, have been going out on what were essentially lucrative greatest hits tours. Yeah an album would be released but, especially with the Stones, there was always the feeling the album came out to promote the tour rather than the other way round.
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Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
You have done it again. Not only do you not agree with peoples taste which is fine, that is totally acceptable and normal and what life is about and Frank Zappa is right. What I was pointing out with eamo's comment first and then you came into it is, you seem to think that your opinion is an independent opinion that is not constructed by the mass media or the majors however those that like U2 or other such bands do not have these critical abilities. What gives you the ability to not listen to the majors while other poor sods out there buy what they are told to buy.
Think Nothing ...I know it for a fact. :cool: It's not rocket science -I don't read the mags, don't watch the music channels, don't listen to music radio. I make magnanimous exceptions in all those but by and large that's the size of it. I do have a "default setting" of contrarian I suppose so I don't expect to like much pop music and am therefore not often pleasantly surprised. But how bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
...nnnnnow your putting words in my mouth. U2 have many, many fans. By and large it's safe to say most of them will be pre-disposed to liking new U2 product as ...well they're U2 fans. Many will like the record, enough to make it a big hit. Others within that rump of U2 fans may even buy it for other reasons instead or as well ...sentimental, loyalty, completeness. They're not invalid reasons ...I'm sure I've done so myself with a couple of my own personal favourites.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
But without reference to U2 fans at all I stand by my belief that there is a huge rump within the target market of the record buying public who consistently buy what they're told to buy. It's an established if imperfect science that involves an amount of product positioning bought with an inordinate amount of cash. X pretty much guarantees a top 30 placing, X+Y guarantees top 20, XX+YY guarantees top 10. These days only X-Factor guarantees No. 1 -and that's only for a week at Christmas. There is of course an error margin in all this as well ...which is why record companies will tell you they can only afford to pay bands 10% of their own money.
But more often than not ...if a bunch of the right suits sitting around a conference table decide their going to make you a famous pop-starlet -it's on.
I refer the honourable member to my previous answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
yawn....
The video is now on the Irish Independent's website. Watch it!
Not bad, but its still a video. Production of the song is great but melody is not great.
Y'see ...we might be at least in the same hymnbook if not quite on the same page after all. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Though I saw 20 seconds of the video and didn't think it was much cop at all in truth. A big moon motif that reminded me of Enyas Orinoco Flow and also of Echo & The Bunnymen. 30 years on and still pilfering ideas from the Bunnymen. Tut Tut. ;)
Check out Get On Your Boots live at the 2009 grammys
here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmDi_AsRbks
Brilliant!
The song is growing on me and i'm in severe danger of liking it.
Good God it's rubbish. And as someone mentioned earlier, the verse is the most blatant rip off of "Pump It Up" by Elvis Costello. (A far,far superior song btw) I hope he gets his lawyers on the case.
Same here. I'm U2 fan but I actually want to hate the song...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pauro 76
title track No Line On The Horizon:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/555044351bfaf19f
I'm nearly certain that this is a different version than the album track.
This is the version that you will find on the b-side to GOYB.
it reminds me of "Lady With The Spinning Head" whic is the b-side of "One"
oh right, its the version that was played on 2XM, yesterday morining, they said it was an exclusive off NLOTH:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Optimist
Agree with you does sound like 'Lady With TSH'. Reminds me of the tracks they left out of Atomic Bomb, Levetate and Flower Child. They all seem to sound the same unfortunately, great tracks though!:)
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Originally Posted by TonyD
isnt that just a rip off of subteranean homesick blues?
Subteranean Homesick Blues and Pump It Up use different time signatures. Frankly there's a stronger line of connection to Mambo No.5Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
Pump It Up and U2s new single however ...myih ...it's about as close to the wind as Bono usually sails -which is pretty close.
...and besides -it rips off We Didn't Start the Fire :p
Its really just an awful song, sounds like something that was written for Sesame Street to encourage kids to dress properly beforeheading out in snow
To anyone interested the album leaked about nearly 24 hours ago.
I have it.
It's their third masterpiece, definately their most complete album since Achtung Baby.
I highly recommend you buy it! :D
I got a copy yesterday and without been biased(cos i'm a fan)its a great album.There's some really big songs on it.Stand out tracks for me would be "I'll Go Crazy..","Unknown Caller","Stand Up Comedy" and "Moment Of Surrender"
Opening Song, No Line on the Horizon has a very Kings of Leon feel to it in my opinion.
I also get a big Daniel Lanois influence on this record too more so than any other album I suppose that is obvious as he shares writing credits with the rest of the band and Eno. Some songs sound like Lanois's album and bits of Million Dollar Hotel etc, esp Cedars of Lebanon.
Finally the single is not representative of the album at all and I don't think any song sounds like Boots at all.
where have ye heard this stuff lads?
There is a gentle and subtle Arabic influence on the album also.