A perfect hook, line and sinker.Quote:
Originally Posted by peadar1987
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A perfect hook, line and sinker.Quote:
Originally Posted by peadar1987
Why thank you. I was quite proud of that one myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
The Norwegian League is mainly pants.
Unless it's Rosenborg, reckon even Millwall or most of the SPL would be a higher standard...
I though youngirish had the exclusive on the usage of 'pants'.
I just thought no one used that word anymore.
So, League of Ireland standard then ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Possibly, but probably higher than LOI.
;)
lol. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ardeebhoy
Lol or LOI?
;)
Both mayhaps.
'Newcastle United goalkeeper Rob Elliot remains coy on international future': http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/...remains-coy-on
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The English-born goalkeeper represented Ireland at youth level but is unwilling to commit to either national team just yet and is intent on establishing himself at club level
Newcastle United goalkeeper Rob Elliot has insisted that it is 'far too early' for him to consider an international career but admitted that an international call-up would be 'an amazing achievement'.
The 26-year-old shot-stopper is eligible for both England and the Republic of Ireland and represented the Boys in Green at under-19 level, but he has revealed that he is unwilling to commit to one side as yet.
"It is a strange one, everyone keeps asking whether I am Irish or English," Elliot told the Irish Sun. "If I got an international call-up it'd be an amazing achievement.
"I don't want to be arrogant and say which country I would like to play for. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself at the moment."
He added: "To be honest, I think it is far too early to talk about stuff like that. I just want to make a name for myself with Newcastle in the Premier League and anything that comes from there would be fantastic."
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I want to play for England. But I have to wait and see if I can get a call up or if Joe Hart gets injured. If that doesn't happen, I suppose I'll go play for Ireland.
Here's what I think it means: I'm not good enough to play for England, and normally I'd go play for Ireland right now, but they are a total mess right now so I'll give it a year or two to see if things get any better before wasting my time with them and their crazy old senile manager.
I really doubt he has a clue about Trap's mental state. What he's saying is, he's a recent debutante in the Premier League who has a fair-decent chance of becoming a first choice player at a decent club with European ambitions, meaning he has a very real shot at getting England caps. If Ireland came knocking, he would weigh up the pros and cons, but his preference would still be to represent his country of allegiance.
why the hell would it be "far to early" to consider an Int'l career at age 26? He's going to wait until he is 50?
I assume he means it's far too early in his professional career. Goalkeepers mature much later than outfield players, so he's really only hitting the age where he should be challenging for first team football and he doesn't know whether he'll be good enough to play for England. Not that you have to be particularly good or anything, but the sheer numbers of contenders make it more unlikely than an Ireland cap.
His country of allegiance?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Aye, surely you mean birth?
Anyway, if you believe some cretins this was exactly the stance taken by numerous Irish players in the past, even the likes of Houghton & McGrath, FFS.
McGrath?
England. I am presuming of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Paul McGrath was born in Ealing.
And aren't we being a tad presumptuous that Elliot has 'allegiance' to anyone. Or did someone see him wearing 'Ingerland' colours or something?
Well my entire post was being preumptuous. That was the point. His quote was so deliberately vague that all we're left with is presumptions.
Was it Ron Atkinson or someone thought they could convince McGrath to throw his lot in with England?
If Trap called Elliot up for a game in the near future, can we assume Elliot would decline the invite then?
I don't think McGrath even qualified for British nationality.
I don't think he would have unless one of his parents had British nationality.
If he had applied for it before 1983 he could have gained british nationality but not after 1983, unless he bided his time and got it through residency.
Fair enough Chuck, but you wouldn't blame most youngsters declining Trap just now.
His record's not good in that respect.
From my understanding, the only way a child of non-British parents gains the right to nationality is if he has no entitlement to his parents' citizenship. Beyond that, I think your parent has to get nationality thus making you entitled. I might be wrong though.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I really don't think most footballers are aware of how Trap operates, especially those at a club with no other Irish players.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
It was different <1983, then a child just had to be born in the stable in order to be called a horse, regardless of the parents' pedigree. We will await the definitive answer from Bonnie who's not usually so shy to have an input.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
McGrath is "almost certainly" a British citizen by virtue of his birth in London pre-1983: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/br...yingterritory/
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If you were born in the UK before 1 January 1983, you are almost certainly a British citizen. The only exception is if you were born to certain diplomatic staff of foreign missions who had diplomatic immunity.
If you were born in the UK on or after 1 January 1983, you are a British citizen if at the time of your birth one of your parents was:
- a British citizen; or
- legally settled in the UK.
Yes, but if he didn't apply for it before 1983, does the 1983 act not rule him out? or was he a dual national by virtue of his birth place, with automatic british and Irish citizenship, just like you Nordies?
Sticks oar in...Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/br...yingterritory/
McGrath is more than welcome to claim UK citizenship if he wishes.Quote:
Originally Posted by UK Borders Agency
There is no mention of a time-limit on an application for same.
He'd be a dual national (at least) by virtue of his birth in London pre-1983 to an Irish mother. I don't see why the 1983 act would rule him out; he'd already have been an automatic British citizen, officially-speaking. Whether he ever acknowledged the fact or applied for a British passport either before or after 1983 is of no consequence, as far as I understand anyway.
For what it's worth, I think he's also a Nigerian citizen, his father being from Nigeria, of course.
Diplomatic immunity has been revoked.
I'm sure there's a footballing grapevine. And it's not exactly a secret how he regards some of his players, even within the bubble of Brit 'meedja'...Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Id go a step further AB and say that any player who is being asked to decide about who they will represent or who is exploring their own options themselves would make it their business to find out what the manager of that international team is really like.
Well, maybe he has...
But given neither Trap or 'Woy' are liable to be in their jobs by the time his chance comes, this may be a somewhat flawed process.
Also you're crediting many players with far more insight than you might just be expecting...
And there was me thinking we were agreeing for a change...
I think we are, I'm just taking the cynical amendment!
Who says he's considering his options? And international managers change all the time, players don't make long-term career decisions based who the current manager is.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu