Tony Mc Do'nt want it neither. The discussion is now over. The great man has spoken.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
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Tony Mc Do'nt want it neither. The discussion is now over. The great man has spoken.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I haven't gotten a response. Has anybody else?
one accountant leading the helm and the rest of the dail all teachers on leave, receiving pay and pension from the teaching and guaranteed the jobs back when they pack in the politics despite the fact they will receive more pensions, expenses and ex gratia payments from the politics what do yee expect.
Teachers are like priests advising on marriage, they part knowledge from textbooks and never really experience anything they teach. The country is being run like a school
Ubergruppenfuhrer Schwarzwalder von Hautkopf - thought to be at large in ParaguayQuote:
Originally Posted by BohDiddley
As Gary posted above, sure we already had an Irish team in the Premiership and look how that turned out?!
The boys got bored with their toys when the novelty wore off and instant success wasn't forthcoming.
Martin Cullen should qualify his point to "it would be great if we had an Irish team in the Premiership that won everything every year in order to keep the interest of the most fickle, bandwagon-jumping, attention deficit disorder suffering, brainless sheep follower nation on earth".
Something to be proud of indeed.
I'll be dropping Martin a line just to make myself feel better, but honestly, I'd have been more surprised if he didn't say something like this. Given the moron's anti-Midas track record (everything he touches turns to....) I'd prefer he remain a country mile away from the EL as god knows things are bad but not bad enough to need his support.
The sad thing is if there was an election tomorrow he'd probably get in again.
:)yeah 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
and Bertie is tipped for uras - might change my nationality when that happens:eek:
I'd have a slight preference for an Irish team in Serie A. More sunshine and fabulous art galleries for the away trips.
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"it would be great if we had an Irish team in the Premiership that won everything every year in order to keep the interest of the most fickle, bandwagon-jumping, attention deficit disorder suffering, brainless sheep follower nation on earth".
LOL - that's (sadly) our great 'sport-lovin' public in a nutshell
You have got to be kidding me!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by teckno
Premiership ticket normally costs in the region of £30-50, so lets just say €45. Say a dad takes his 2 kids to see Dublin FC face Spurs and ends up paying €135, do you really think he's going to think to himself "Wow, this soccer thing is incredible...I wonder if we have a league of our own?" go home, do some Internet reserach and after he has read all about the snakes being banished from Ireland on Wikipedia turn up at Richmond Park to see Pats vs Sligo and spend another near €50? You are way off the beaten track.
Also, is the presence of Dublin FC going to go around and advertise the Eircom League at their home fixtures, a league that will be it's comeptition for fans and resources? Do you really think they are going to ask 14 year old Joe Irish to join their youth team if they can afford to go and get the next Fabregas instead? The basic fundamentals of the footballing world, especially the Premiership World (ie...money money money), are all missing from your post. Deluded or Wumming, and for the sake of you and yours, I hope it's Wumming
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Originally Posted by Titan
Really ? :confused:
The only time European law was asked to intervene in a case of clubs from one footballing jurisdiction playing in another jursidiction against the wishes of their home jurisdiction, the clubs won (i.e. the case of the Welsh exile clubs vs the FA of Wales). Footballing rules are always trumped by European law.
Under European competition and restraint of trade laws, if a Dublin-based club was to be accepted into the English Premiership in accordance with the rules of the premiership, there is nothing that could legally be done to prevent that. That is now an established legal fact within the EU, and will remain so until and unless a contrary judgement.
So there are no such regulations for anyone to list that are legally enforceable. Which may explain why they haven’t been.
Following the MK Dons farce, the FA have allegedly acted to close the loop-hole that they allowed be created in that case (i.e. that you can move clubs around like chess pieces).Quote:
Originally Posted by endabob1
We'll only know for sure how water-tight it is if and when someone tries to do it again.
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Originally Posted by gspain
Sorry to dissapoint you, but he didn't that honour goes to Noel Dempsey.
Now persisting with them and storage :rolleyes: thats another story.
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Would a full-on petition not be more effective?
Truely terrible idea and thats coming from someone who has actually attended hundreds of LFC games. The club itself would be a classless piece of sh1t with no history and small sections of scummy inbreds, like some of our lot, would travel over and create trouble which would be perfect fodder for the GAA driven media here, to bash the game of football as a whole. The EL would suffer just as much as anyone from this.
I cant see one positive for the EL in this.
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Originally Posted by Straightstory
:D:D fabulously understated humour there - just shows how feckin ridiculous were Cullens comments.
I have three thoughts:
1) when you consider its population and the huge demand and market for 'cross channel soccer' (as RTE like to call it) in this country, there is absolutely no doubt that dublin could quite feasibly sustain a premier league club.
Indeed, if football in europe did operate on a franchise system similar to US sports, i would think that such a club would have materialized long ago. To me, commercially this is a no brainer.
2) Regardless of whether this would actually be a good thing for Irish football, this will not happen anytime soon unless there is a complete overhaul of the game to run on a purely commercial basis. If it hadnt been for the introduction of the extended champions league, this may possibly have happened some time in the 1990's. However, the biggest clubs are now quite happy with the status quo, such that they have even disbanded their elite lobby group G14. Unless they suddenly decide to break away from their national associations and UEFA, the chances of this happening are nil.
3) Most of you lads cannot give an impartial or objective comment on this as to whether a dublin PL club would contribute to the betterment of irish soccer due to your commitment and dedication to the eircom league. Clearly, the formation of such a club in dublin would sound the death knell of the eircom league as even a semi-prof league, let alone one that is fully pro . Like what happend the AIL in rugby once the provinces went professional... the little public interest that exists in the eircom league at present would fall away completely.
It would be the ultimate admission of defeat with regard to establishing a professional domestic league in this country, and seeing as most of you guys seem to still think that goal still to be sensible and feasible... (i am doubtful on both of these fronts), you are most definitely not going to support a proposal that would destroy that vision... Even if it would lead to a more successful national team in the long run
why not the Primera Liga?Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
We already have a football team in Dublin though. 7 to be exact playing in top two tiers of our ****ing national league. (Yes, **** shock horror we have a football league!:eek::eek:)Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
If Cullen wants football of an ''acceptable standard'' so he can sit in his fatcat corporate box with the rest of his Premiership loving, invisible importing, hypocritical Fianna Fáil chums, he can invest some major money into the LoI instead of inventing some souless club with no history or tradition, a.k.a Franchise Football.
[quote=ofjames;1078431]I have three thoughts:
1) when you consider its population and the huge demand and market for 'cross channel soccer' (as RTE like to call it) in this country, there is absolutely no doubt that dublin could quite feasibly sustain a premier league club.
Yes, because population and market demand are reason enough to play in another countries football league. :rolleyes: Sure there is a huge market for premiership teams in Asia too and a huge population, might as well add a few teams as well.
"Indeed, if football in europe did operate on a franchise system similar to US sports, i would think that such a club would have materialized long ago. To me, commercially this is a no brainer."
Yeah we could have this Dublin team sponsored by Mcdonalds or even KFC. KFC Dublin FC. That certainly would be a commercial 'no brainer'.
There are ****ing loads on boards. Idiots.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey4ireland
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055446109
We need overseas politicians to run our country. The ones we have now are not good enough and the people deserve better. We need to bring in British polticians into this country to run Ireland.
The good people of Ireland deserve quality ministerial performance and world class Government. The Irish Government simply isn't working and we need to look overseas for our Government.
God Bless the Act of UnionQuote:
Originally Posted by Boh_So_Good
I would love to see the day when good looking women are girlfirends of Irish Ministers. I mean, that Monica Leech what a national embrassement! She looks like a man. Now compared here to wives and girlfriends of French and Italian politicians. What a joke our domestic politicians' women are.
The good people of Ireland deserve more from their polticians than chain-smoking midgets banging drag queen lookalikes in Kuala Lumpur at Irish taxpayers expense!
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Originally Posted by joey4ireland
Where does he say it's a good idea?
He says that Commercially it would probably be very succesfull, "there is absolutely no doubt that dublin could quite feasibly sustain a premier league club." I agree with him and I think from a TV rights pov Sky would be very much behind it. This doesn’t mean I think it’s a good idea, I’m simply giving my thoughts on the likely reasons why it would hypothetically be successful, these reasons would also be in the thoughts of anyone willing to stump up the cash for such a venture.
He also says "Regardless of whether this would actually be a good thing for Irish football, this will not happen anytime soon unless there is a complete overhaul of the game to run on a purely commercial basis."
Again I have to agree, simply because of the UEFA/FA/FIFA & FAI obstacles likely to be in the way.
His third point "Most of you lads cannot give an impartial or objective comment on this" is borne out by your (and others) responses, understandably it's an emotive subject but you have called him a moron for agreeing with Cullen when he does no such thing.
His comparison with the AIL & the move to professional Rugby by the 4 provinces is a very good one, the AIL gets tiny attendances and most of their support has moved to the provincial sides, yet you will always find supporters of AIL club sides who have little or no interest in the provincial game. While not a complete death knell for the AIL it certainly means that the league will never grow to anything beyond an amateur, local level.
I think the introduction of a football club in Dublin attracting 30k+ would undoubtedly have a similar effect on the domestic scene in Dublin at least and consequently across the country and I'm guessing 90% of people on here feel the same way which is why everyone who supports a LOI club is so vehemently opposed to the idea.
Like those scarves said:
'Our Clubs Our Country'.
I don't see how EPL football matches every second weekend in Dublin would increase Sligo Rovers' attendance
It would be the ultimate admission of defeat with regard to establishing a nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
By subserving our own nation?Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
What petition has ever worked? bar bringing back wispas...Quote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
Write to him at the ministry asking a question, he has to reply to you
Championship at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
And your analysis omits the reality that a major part of 'cross-channel' soccer's success here is that it is arms-length, sanitised fare, ideal for the novelty fan.
Even if Dublin Franchise can manage to prise people away from their current brand, going to the Theatre of Dreams on a Ryanair jolly twice a year does not a regular-attending football supporter make,
Premiership or nothing, I'd say.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohDiddley
Would you get 15000 out to see QPR? Not a chance.
Slightly out of date but interesting none the less, between 2,500 & 5,000 a week travelling to the UK
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/an...e-1056570.html
Dreadful guestimate. "Its either 2,500 or double it"Quote:
Originally Posted by endabob1
And still way, way less than attend LOI matches each week
"When you are a fan like I am it is just something you have to do." says the Sunderland Irish fan in that articleQuote:
Originally Posted by endabob1
jesus we really are a nation of thicks
.......for a short period of time until something else newer and better comes along and I'll be all over it like a bad smell. Come on Munster!!!!!!!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Moron No 1 from the Indo article
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Originally Posted by Dodge
Thats what I thought, TBH I expected the figure to be higher
I was thinking about all this today and I think this might be a carrot (lie) Cullen is holding out to the Sheeple as a YES vote Sweetener for the Lisbon Treaty.
The Masonic Common Purpose agenda runs seminars for politicians teaching them to bully and fool the electorate without any restraint is good if it achieves the ultimate goal of an EU facist superstate. I suspect that we have not heard the last of this and we may well get. "Lisbon will allow for the Premiership to expand into Ireland" and expect to see NeoCons such as Gordon Brown and Barroso coming out with the same line as the Lisbon Vote nears.
Considering that the Irish premiership brigade are instinctual traitors by their very nature, it makes perfect sense that the greatest act of teason in the history of Ireland (our entire political machine at war with our Republic) would reach out to them in time as they are a natural collaborator.
Some gas comments on the original youtube link.
I'd pretty certain it's far higher. Ever seen Dublin airport on a Saturday morning? It's weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by endabob1
Add a few thousand extra onto that number if you include the exodus to see Celtic and Rangers. The ferries from Belfast and Larne are packed on Saturdays. (although, the have to have seperate ferries, obviously :rolleyes:)
Its weird but its not thousands and thousands weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire