2008 F.A.I. Cup final thread.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

it's more than three but, even if it wasnt, thats three too many people from Derry with nothing more productive to do than post wind-ups on a message board for Bohemians fans.

Cripes is right!

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Like the four too many Bohs fans who had nothing more productive to do than tear up a Derry bar last year?

Stop dragging up irrelevancies to slander a whole group of fans.

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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

Like the four too many Bohs fans who had nothing more productive to do than tear up a Derry bar last year?

Stop dragging up irrelevancies to slander a whole group of fans.

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And like the Derry fans singing sectarian slogans against Linfield??

Stop dragging up irrelevancies to slander a whole group of fans:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

Like the four too many Bohs fans who had nothing more productive to do than tear up a Derry bar last year?

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cripes! x2

trying to reason with Derry fans is like trying to reason with rainman.

Another thread descending in to utter tripe :mad:

GROW UP FFS!!!

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Originally Posted by Bohemian1890

And like the Derry fans singing sectarian slogans against Linfield??

Stop dragging up irrelevancies to slander a whole group of fans:rolleyes:

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Swing and a miss.

Point of my post was to highlight the absurdity of thinking Bohs fans were bar-raiding thugs based on the actions of four people- rather like SkStu general thought's on Derry fans 'plague' like behaviour on the Bohs message board. Quite how that has led to supposed sectarian chanting at the Brandy is beyond me. Never mind eh. :o

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Originally Posted by SkStu

Great post MICLS.

i hate to reply to this thread as i promised my self i wouldnt get involved in the baiting and obvious WUMming that the Derry fans are renowned for when it comes to Bohemians and Pat Fenlon. Please see the first post of this thread for a mild example.

We're not really renowned for baiting bohs fans. youse are the league champions, of course other fans are going to be jealous and take pot shots. its not personal, so dont take it as such. i would love to be in that position. as for fenlon? tried and failed at derry, for whatever reason. he's an ex-manager of ours, what do you want us to do, say well done pat, brilliant job, keep up the good work? would rovers fans say that to roddy? think not. and the initial post was a bit tongue in cheek, i thought, referring ot eh fact that bohs fans like to call us minnows and themselves the big club to try and get a rise. and it works with some derry fans, so job done. others see it as the banter it is, and take it in the spirit in which it is hopefully intended.

The attitude of Derry fans this year to the supporters of a team that has traditionally taken Derry's side in a lot of matters over the years and supported them through tough times has led to them quickly becoming the most despised set of fans amongst Bohemians fans. Its a pity really.

My attitude to bohs, as a derry fan, is well done on winning the league. the teamwork and consistency displayed throughout the season was immense, as was your final points tally. youse could only beat what was put in front of youse, and by and large thats what youse did. congratulations. (allow us minnows with our tin cup to take some pride out of the fact that the league champions didnt beat us in competition this season so far; its not like we have a league trophy to celebrate over). and as for all the animosity and hatred for all things derry down phibsboro way? dont know where that has come from tbh, always enjoyed the admittedly few trips i got to make to dalyer. if your attitude to an entire group of fans is spoiled by the actions of what, 3 or 4 wums on your website, then i would think that the problem isnt so much derry fans. (plus, try checking out their postings on our own mb, should maybe enlighten you a bit further.) Have to say that i dont know any derry fans that have any real animosity towards bohs, either the team or the club, not the way we did about shels. and that, to me, is something that has been missing this season from the league, real passion between clubs.

They plague our site with ridiculous posters posting ridiculous wind ups. I am surprised that these people have so much time to spend posting rubbish on another clubs thread. Quite sad really.

again, see above. and its hardly a plague. check out our own mb for their 'home' postings. and i actually agree.

This post has nothing to do with any insecurity over not having beaten Derry this year as i think this Bohemians team has nothing to prove to anyone. Fair play to Derry for their performances against us, truly. But they will have to try and put those performances in week in week out against every team if they are to have any hope of winning the league.

agreed 100%

I hope for a good final also. I will be watching online from Canada and i am looking forward to great support from both sets of fans. I just wish that Derry would stop the bohs bashing at every opportunity as the two sets of fans used to have a great relationship and mutual respect.

we arent bohs bashing at every opportunity. certain posters are adopting a shotgun approach to inter-club banter and rivalry, as opposed to the usual water pistol approach.

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Roll on November 23rd.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

cripes! x2

trying to reason with Derry fans is like trying to reason with rainman.

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See the above post. And you continue to make sweeping generalisations...

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Originally Posted by joey B

Another thread descending in to utter tripe :mad:

GROW UP FFS!!!

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Fair enough, I just don't like being shoved (with a few thousand others) into a decidedly unrepresentative pigeon hole just because three people made some remarks on some message board. Anyway I think the previous post makes my position reasonably clear.

Back on topic - some cup final was it?

quick genuine question for bohs fans - will there be proper bohs merchandise on sale at the rds on the day of the final? want to get a proper bohs scarf for my collection, not one of those cup final tat ones.

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Originally Posted by shantykelly

Roll on November 23rd.

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fair play SK.

one thing i would like to clarify, is that the Derry fans who post on our message board are the ones that are hard for all the bohs fans to stomach. A lot of the bohs mb regulars who wouldnt be caught dead on this site have pointed out that derry fans, in person, are a sound sound bunch.

but i appreciate your response and maybe i did misinterpret the spirit of the initial poster (though im still not convinced...)

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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

See the above post. And you continue to make sweeping generalisations...

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shantykellys post has validated your argument about my sweeping generalisations of Derry fans. He seems capable of addressing the merits and faults of a post. Your attempts at a discourse, consisting of "cripes" certainly did not. :rolleyes:

how does the ticket allocation work out? is it 40/40/20 for derry/bohs/fai? would actually like to see a strong neutral contingent at this, hoping for a great game of football as i dont get to make too many away trips.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

shantykellys post has validated your argument about my sweeping generalisations of Derry fans. He seems capable of addressing the merits and faults of a post. Your attempts at a discourse, consisting of "cripes" certainly did not. :rolleyes:

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lol :D ;)

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Originally Posted by SkStu

fair play SK.

one thing i would like to clarify, is that the Derry fans who post on our message board are the ones that are hard for all the bohs fans to stomach. A lot of the bohs mb regulars who wouldnt be caught dead on this site have pointed out that derry fans, in person, are a sound sound bunch.

but i appreciate your response and maybe i did misinterpret the spirit of the initial poster (though im still not convinced...)

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Possibly because I touched a sore nerve with the Bohs fans 'tear-up' bar reference? ;)

Seriously my only point was to show how absurd it was to generalise about football fans and how I resented it. Simple as.

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Originally Posted by shantykelly

quick genuine question for bohs fans - will there be proper bohs merchandise on sale at the rds on the day of the final? want to get a proper bohs scarf for my collection, not one of those cup final tat ones.

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You need some to line the birdcage with or wha'?:p

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Originally Posted by SkStu

shantykellys post has validated your argument about my sweeping generalisations of Derry fans. He seems capable of addressing the merits and faults of a post. Your attempts at a discourse, consisting of "cripes" certainly did not. :rolleyes:

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Re: Mods - I really tried to resist, really, but I couldn't help it. If you must delete what I'm about to post or ban me or whatever then I'll take my punishment in good faith. But seriously...

CRIPES! :eek:

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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

You need some to line the birdcage with or wha'?:p

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as it is virtually impossible for me to get time off work, i really appreciate away trips, and am slowly building up a collection of scarves from away grounds. yes, i know it aint dalyer, but ill get there yet.

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Originally Posted by shantykelly

quick genuine question for bohs fans - will there be proper bohs merchandise on sale at the rds on the day of the final? want to get a proper bohs scarf for my collection, not one of those cup final tat ones.

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SK - not sure on if we'll have anything outside the ground.

If you want to email the guys which deal with our merchandise - they should be able to sort you out: sarah@bohemians.ie should reach them fine.

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Originally Posted by Réiteoir

SK - not sure on if we'll have anything outside the ground.

If you want to email the guys which deal with our merchandise - they should be able to sort you out: sarah@bohemians.ie should reach them fine.

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Although you might get the standard message back from them to a Derry fan.

Altogether now Bohs fans..........M****W ;)


But seriously,

Mods, I know this may be deleted but if you read the messages from Derry fans on there forum you may see that some genuine questions have been replied with derogatory comments time after time.One who is a member on the Derry forum has 39 posts in his 1st day and none had any proper purpose but to continually spout political remarks!


So hopefully the keyboard warriers will now desist and this thread can continue in a way to express views on the blue ribbon event and not be dragged down to gutter level!

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Originally Posted by shantykelly

how does the ticket allocation work out? is it 40/40/20 for derry/bohs/fai? would actually like to see a strong neutral contingent at this, hoping for a great game of football as i dont get to make too many away trips.

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Is it likely to sell out? I'd say there'll be tickets available for anyone who wants them. It'd be smart to start selling them as soon as possible though in case the weather on the day puts people off like last year.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

A lot of the bohs mb regulars who wouldnt be caught dead on this site

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It's very hard to get caught dead on a forum.

Unless you post decomposing noises or something like that.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

Great post MICLS.

i hate to reply to this thread as i promised my self i wouldnt get involved in the baiting and obvious WUMming that the Derry fans are renowned for when it comes to Bohemians and Pat Fenlon. Please see the first post of this thread for a mild example.

The attitude of Derry fans this year to the supporters of a team that has traditionally taken Derry's side in a lot of matters over the years and supported them through tough times has led to them quickly becoming the most despised set of fans amongst Bohemians fans. Its a pity really.

They plague our site with ridiculous posters posting ridiculous wind ups. I am surprised that these people have so much time to spend posting rubbish on another clubs thread. Quite sad really.

This post has nothing to do with any insecurity over not having beaten Derry this year as i think this Bohemians team has nothing to prove to anyone. Fair play to Derry for their performances against us, truly. But they will have to try and put those performances in week in week out against every team if they are to have any hope of winning the league.

I hope for a good final also. I will be watching online from Canada and i am looking forward to great support from both sets of fans. I just wish that Derry would stop the bohs bashing at every opportunity as the two sets of fans used to have a great relationship and mutual respect.

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What a load of sanctimonious rubbish that is. No one wants to get involved in childish behaviour, but you want to jump on your high horse and get in your twopence worth. You're on about Derry people going on the Bohs site, have you read the Derry City site. There are Bohs supporters on the Derry City site and one poster posted 38 times yesterday, with a photo of the Championship trophy in most of them, and an another photo of a 'Tin Pot'. Sort out you own house first.

As we are talking here about MB's lets have a look at the Bohs site. Not once did any of them give Derry City any credit for hammering them 4-1 in the LC. They all took their lead from fenlon who after the game said they had bigger fish to fry.

They don't need anyone winding them up as they start most threads calling the opposition minnows, that's including the rubbish they heaped on Kildare when they played them.

The Bohs forum is also the only forum i now that from the off, they bring politics into the discussion. No matter what a Derry person says, they are hit with a load of political gibberish.

So like i said get off your high horse, stop trying to grab the high ground. Tell your mates for once in their life to show a bit of respect, and try to keep the politics out of it, as that is one way of showing you might have something positive to add to the discussion.

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Originally Posted by shantykelly

quick genuine question for bohs fans - will there be proper bohs merchandise on sale at the rds on the day of the final? want to get a proper bohs scarf for my collection, not one of those cup final tat ones.

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If not:
http://shop.bohemians.ie/index.php?c...caf70c48abcf01

Can always order them online...? or if you can wait 'til your next trip to Dalyer our merch is sold in the portacabin beside the chipper by the end of the Jodi stand.

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Originally Posted by sligoman

:eek:, first time I've seen Bohs being described as 'best footballing side'. Not meaning to have a go at Bohs but the football they play isn't great, they did get the results though, which can't be argued with.

Hope Derry win.

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Mainly because most people buy the Roddy Collins/Sean Connor propaganda on MNS. We play some great football. Look at the build up to goals two and three against Pats. Thats typical of the way we play. Good passing movements are the hallmark of this side. Some people seem to think that good football is only great individual efforts with players beating two and three of the opposition.

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Unlucky razor - I'm delighted it's the RDS, for so many reasons.

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I hope the weather isn't one of them. :D
bring your waterproofs

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

You don't go to games and talk to other fans then?

You must have a warped view of the world if you use internet fora as a proxy for reality.

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The 14 away fans who come to the cross? Not that often no.

I did speak to people up in Derry, they were sound.

You do realise though that I made my comments TO people on the internet ON the internet, right?

cheers lads, appreciate the responses

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Originally Posted by Derry

What a load of sanctimonious rubbish that is. No one wants to get involved in childish behaviour, but you want to jump on your high horse and get in your twopence worth. You're on about Derry people going on the Bohs site, have you read the Derry City site. There are Bohs supporters on the Derry City site and one poster posted 38 times yesterday, with a photo of the Championship trophy in most of them, and an another photo of a 'Tin Pot'. Sort out you own house first.

As we are talking here about MB's lets have a look at the Bohs site. Not once did any of them give Derry City any credit for hammering them 4-1 in the LC. They all took their lead from fenlon who after the game said they had bigger fish to fry.

They don't need anyone winding them up as they start most threads calling the opposition minnows, that's including the rubbish they heaped on Kildare when they played them.

The Bohs forum is also the only forum i now that from the off, they bring politics into the discussion. No matter what a Derry person says, they are hit with a load of political gibberish.

So like i said get off your high horse, stop trying to grab the high ground. Tell your mates for once in their life to show a bit of respect, and try to keep the politics out of it, as that is one way of showing you might have something positive to add to the discussion.

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i have nothing further to add to this "discussion". Its an exercise in futility. Good luck in the final.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

i have nothing further to add to this "discussion". Its an exercise in futility. Good luck in the final.

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Well as you started this, i guess you should finish it.

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Originally Posted by Derry

Well as you started this, i guess you should finish it.

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couldnt let it go, no?

All i will say is that the treatment of the poor Derry fans who post on our messageboard is a direct result of and in proportion to the idiocy of their posts. Instead of trying to engage them in some form of constructive argument which appears futile, the decision was taken to reply to the numerous posts from them by simply stating "minnows". It seems to wind you lot up as much as a section of your support loves to wind us up. Again, any "political" references come from posters who are tired of the rubbish spouted on the message board. Then there are those who have registered on your site recently, im sure they have the same reasons for doing this, not that i would agree with it. I have better things to do than register on opposition supporters message boards.

thebohs.com moderators could just ban those involved in this rubbish (like many other forums do) but they like to take a liberal approach to moderating which is their call. If opposition posters come on with genuine questions, as a few corkies and others do, they will be treated with respect.

marty88 and his buddies deserve the responses they are currently getting on the Bohs board, its that simple.

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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

Should be a good game and a decent attendance. Wish I could make it over from London.

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Why can't you SvD ?

There's a good crowd of City fans heading over from London already (with the banner)

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Originally Posted by razor

I hope the weather isn't one of them. :D
bring your waterproofs

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Do the two main stands have leaky roofs......? :confused:

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Do the two main stands have leaky roofs......? :confused:

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Has a second stand been roofed?

What crowd is expected for this btw? Imagine derry will bring quite a big crowd. Given the teams involved would hopefully beat last years attendance anyway

Grandstand (opposite old stand has been roofed). Last years final had about 10,000 at it - should be beaten anyway.

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Why can't you SvD ?

There's a good crowd of City fans heading over from London already (with the banner)

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I'm not totally ruling it out but it's looking unlikely. I'm doing an MA and it's flat out work round the cup final - if I can blow it off I will and I'll try and get on whatever trip yous are doing!

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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

I'm not totally ruling it out but it's looking unlikely. I'm doing an MA and it's flat out work round the cup final - if I can blow it off I will and I'll try and get on whatever trip yous are doing!

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I'm doing an MA as well - with two deadlines the week following the Final....:D

Book them flights lad....

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

I'm doing an MA as well - with two deadlines the week following the Final....:D

Book them flights lad....

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Fair play chief, I'm looking into it..might have to bribe a couple of tutors but I'll see!

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

I'm doing an MA as well - with two deadlines the week following the Final....:D

Book them flights lad....

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MA in Post Civil Conflict Dialects by any chance?

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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

MA in Post Civil Conflict Dialects by any chance?

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"Book them flights lad" ?

Not unless there's been some unknown civil conflict in Yorkshire, me duck...

Just been announced. Derry are officially the away team for the final so we will be wearing our away "Argentina" rig.

16,000 will be the capacity for the game. Both clubs will share each stand and each will be given an uncovered stand behind the goals each.


edit......Heard the tickets will be €20 stand adult €10 child/OAP

€15 for uncovered.

Will neutrals be able to get tickets at the gate? Any chance of it selling out?

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Originally Posted by fionnsci

Will neutrals be able to get tickets at the gate? Any chance of it selling out?

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I don't think it'll sell out, but will hopefully come close if enough neutrals turn-out.

The weather will play a big part in it.

Wil be interesting to see how many fans Bohs have there.