OK, we'll have to go with 13 then.
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OK, we'll have to go with 13 then.
Has any one suggested an All Across-the-Irish-Sea League yet?
11+ glentoran and Linfield should do the job.
No, but give it time, loads of stupid suggestions are made here every day. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Bluebeard
Waterford handed another 3 points it appears. Graham Kelly is the referee for tomorrow's match with Dundalk.
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Another 2 points...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lilywhites
Well, if Graham Kelly manages to get Waterford two points tomorrow, fair play to him.
It'll be a draw until he wards a last minute penalty. D'uh...
No. We'll be 1-0 up and then he'll give two penalties, for fouls outside the box, to Waterford, in injury-time. D'uh...
Lets hope so, eh?
from btid.net
It's understood that the decision was made by the FAI last night (Wednesday) and was due to be issued by the Communication department of the league to both clubs and the media this afternoon (Thursday)
However, it's now understood that the FAI have to decided to hold another meeting to discuss the decision that they reached last night and MAY yet decide to change their orignal decision.
Actually, I find that fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
There are many Shels fans who don't mind Pats now but personally I too will never ever forget the disgusting behaviour of their manager and fans in the 2002 season. Which was a shame because before that, I'd always had a bit of a soft spot for them.
And if the rules say Waterford are to be awarded a 3-0 win, then that's fair enough too.
Can't accept that Pats fans behaved disgustingly. No argument on the manager. Himelf and Keely both should've been banned for their part in itQuote:
Originally Posted by The Sheliban
"Sure lets see how the game tomorrow pans out first lads" I can imagine that committee saying. Even less respect now for the whole scene. Can't get anything right.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue til i die
That more like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue til i die
I knew the decision making all looked like it was going a bit too smoothly....
not to drag things too far off topic but is this the same stuey byrne who "alledgedly" texted his buddy Pat Fenlon the Drogheda United FAI cup team the night before they were due to play?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Despicable is right
You'll not find a single Waterford fan that agrees with that, especially after our last game at Tolka!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lilywhites
Another point of bitter rivalry between the two clubs it seems! :D
I can assure you 100% that I have/will never celebrate anything that Shels win off the pitch (unless it is directly related to our survival). Just 'cos I follow Shels does not mean I agreed with the behaviour of the people we had in place at the time...far from it in fact. I think your comments are quite ignorant to be honest. Shelbourne FC is made up of many people who work their arses off voluntarily simply for the love of the reds, I think it is very narrow-minded of you to make a judgement of the club based on something that has happened in the past. The whole culture of the club has changed drastically over the last couple of years, you're just too bitter to see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Yeah I'm bitter. You could have my dad, jesus, Eddie Gormley and Jessica Alba working for you and I'd still hate everything about you.
Enjoy your promotion
I'm sorry, that's just mindless garbage. I will thoroughly enjoy it, if it transpires.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Speaking for numerous Shels fans, we hate yous, Dodge, as much as you hate us so I dont see what the problem is. I personally couldnt care less if you, or anyone else, dont want to see us going up.
"Speaking for numerous Shels fans"?? What??? Do ya not trust your own opinion enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joey Killester
Im not sure what you mean there, Higgo. I suppose I was just saying in a round about way that we all hate Pats.
I can assure, it certainly isn't mindless. Whether you dispute it or not, I've thought long and hard about it, and decided I still hate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgo
If you disagree with me - fine, if you don't care about my thoughts - fine but don't dismiss it as a nonsense.
I just think you're being irrational to be honest. Anyway, we'll never agree so not much point in talkin' any more about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Lads, lads, lads, let's not bicker and argue over who hates who.
Let's all just agree that both Shels and Pats are a shower of c**ts and move on eh?
As Stan stated in another thread "new information has come to light" which puts a different slant on things. I happen to know 2 pieces of information that could make a difference to things and know that they would be considering these!Quote:
Originally Posted by Duffman
Hang tight people.
I think the main problem with this new rule is that it is open to abuse. What is to stop a team fielding an ill eligible player on purpose, maybe unlikely but don't say it couldn't happen. If team A needs a win and team B is indifferent, what is to stop them coming to an agreement where team B plays an ill eligible player. Both teams can then play like they want to win and if Team B wins or it's a draw then Team A will get the 3 points anyway through this rule.
put a huge fine in place and they would think twiceQuote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
I thini match fixing is frowned upon in general. Plus there's no rule stopping a sick registered player from playing. Once you're eligible it doesn't matter if you're ill.
Well the new info didn't make any odds in the end.
Just been officially communicated to the WUFC office that Athlone Town have forfeited the match 3-0 and been fined €2,500 for fielding an ineligible player.
Ouch on that fine, but it is the one stipulated in the rules apparently. Hard not to feel bad for Athlone though.
On a side note, our manager has some choice words for Mr Keely over his article in the Sun today too, which I didn't hear earlier but will be avidly listening out for at 12.
Whats to stop anyone fixing a match in more simple ways (eg doing a Grobelaar)?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
The existing rules is the answer btw......
If someone wants to fix a game they will.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
What the rules now stops is opposing teams from spoiling the game. If, for example, tonights game between Dundalk and Waterford was the last game of the season, under the old rules Dundalk could've played 11 unregistered/suspended players to ensure the won the game. They'd have been docked 3 points but it'd mean that Waterford didn't gain anything on them
The new rule stops that
Confirmed just now on a Press Release from FAI.
There is an anomaly there, but that's totally the wrong way to address it. If the FAI wants to address that particular point then they could dock the points from the offending club and order a reply if it is found that the offending club has gained an advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
This rule means clubs are awarded points off the field of play and that should never never happen in a league situation when there is a real possibility of other clubs being disadvantaged. This is a rule that we'll be coming back to again, and again and again over the years unless its changed.
Looks like John Delaney and Milo looking after their old club again :p.
Again, this is the rule that every other country in the world uses.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
Its just our idiot clubs that have the problem, our idiot refs that don't realise the mistakes, and our idiot administrators that take a month to do anythign about it
There's nothing wrong with the rule at all
Dundalk fans are complaining about their club being disadvantaged, yet if Athlone gained a result by fielding an unregistered it would be Waterford that would be suffering through no fault of their own.
Athlone fecked up so forfeited the game- simple.
I think to blame Athlone for this is wrong, It is up to the FAI to inform them a list of players that are eligible to play, then in that case, Athlone can be blamed.
Do you know what the previous rule was ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I think you'll find what you've just said is wrong.
The rule that was there two years ago would have allowed the FAI to do many things, a fine and awarding the other team a 3-0 victory were well within the rules. Also the option of the replay was allowed too.
These rules appear much more restricted in what you can do.