Bow out in semis & stay up. Without a doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by thischarmingman
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Bow out in semis & stay up. Without a doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by thischarmingman
They're showing Harps V Sligo in 2 weeks.
stay up! then we could rebuild our squad and win the league!:)
I understand the financial implications of going down and the fact that every team wants to play in the top division, and maybe it's just the romantic in me but to win a major trophy is surely a great honour and something that will go down in the club's history. You've won the FAI cup once, back 27 years ago, you're now 2 games from what would be a famous vistory. The glow from winning a cup would help you through next season. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Maroon
(Obviously, I hope you don't win it.)
Bray got a point tonight against Rovers. 2-0 down with 25 mins to go and we pulled them back. It should pick the lads up now and hopefully we can start picking up points again.
Staying up is much more important to me. The Cup would be a bonus really.Quote:
Originally Posted by thischarmingman
Might toddle along to that myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
17 years ago, Jesus! I was feeling old for a minute there! 17 years is long enough though.Quote:
Originally Posted by thischarmingman
I'd still take Premier division football above an FAI Cup win. We've had enough of the joke that is the 1st division in our recent history to last a lifetime.
I'm with KBurke on this, win the Cup, go down and come up 'properly'. I thinlk whatever we may achieve in the futre in the Premier Division will be sullied by some because of the manner in which we found ourselves. We have one major trophy to our credit out of 31 years in the league. I'd like to see us double that, go down and rebuilt the club aorund local players like Alan Keane, Seamus Conneely, Jonathan Keane, John Russell and, hopefully, a striker who (A) looks like he gives a sh*t; and (B) can score!
Sorry, slip of the finger. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by GuisaSaigon
Galway guys you don't want to win the cup and seriously get relegated.
Any investment ye guys get will be cut in half. Any half decent players ye have will leave. Also the first will increase to 12 teams chasing one automatic promotion spot and 3 play off (lottery places). If your in the first then you have 2 of Cobh, UCD, Harps and then 3 of Fingal, Shels, Waterford or Dundalk with a rejuvenated Limerick to contend with. The first will be a fcuker to get of next season and you'd seriously want to stay away from it next season.
Whereas if you survive then really you only need to battle the 1st Divison Winners (Dundalk), Sligo & Bray. That looks an easier prospect than winning the first next season. Its easier to stay in the premier than to win the first
To hell with the cup.....
stay up,
restructure wages, costs, ticket prices etc.
Build team around local lads
sign 1 - 2 players
It could be a fight for bottom two places as well, if Cork City dont get a licence or what ever way it pans out? But if i were one of the clubs in the drop zone i wouldn't like to count on that though, better to be safe and not in the bottom three.
Stay up definitely. As Jinx Lillywhite says it'll be c*nt to get out of the 1st next season. We spent a long time down there and it would be a disaster if we spent another few years in the quagmire.
I reckon both Harps and Galway will stay up with UCD and Cobh joining Bohs in the 1st division.
I think Harps will only need one more win and Galway are well capable of getting 7 points which will be enough.
I think it will be Cobh and Galway to stay up. I think Harps will get the 10 point deduction and Cork will also get further points deductions/relagation.
Not the way I would want to stay up but at this stage I would take any way!
Are you on the wind up here or what? Harps have had to cut wages for the last 6-7 weeks of the season having paid in full up to that point, fair enough, but Cobh cut back wages far, far sooner and have consistently failed to pay on time throughout the season. So why would we get a deduction and not you guys?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rebel Ram
If anyone should benefit from deductions for financial issues it should be UCD, not Cobh or Galway.
Trust me lads you'd want to stay up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tir Oilean
We went down with the cup in 2002 and still haven't gotten back. We thought we'd bounce straight back up.
indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth4sam
try telling that to a few of the glory hunting idiots that support our club that have never heard of a thing called foresight!!! :mad:
This si changing by the minute. With the Drogs news now and the fact it seems unlikely them or us will get a license next year it could be a case of just finish above the bottom....
First come first served with a licence?
If Drogheda go part time, renege on thier agreement to find a new home, and can't pay their players I cannot see them ever getting a Premier License
As for us. I have no idea. We may not exist this time next week though hopefully we will be well on our way to recovery. If we come to an agreement with the Revenue and the courts are happy then punishing us further would just be cruel.
For me, Galway have the best run in of the lot so its really in their hands. Finn Harps best after that.
I want Galway to stay up. I quite like Terryland, Finn Harps is very far and I never want to go back to St. Colmans - UCD will hopefully go down.
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I think if they dont decide to put everyone in the same pot next season it will be the 10 clubs that get premier licences making up the top division.
Would like Cobh or Galway to stay up, nice trips in store, but it will probably be between UCD and Harps, until we see what teams get relegated for financial irregularities, of which several are in the frame. Then all 4 can stay up. :eek::D
i dont think so at this stage, if supposedly bohs are being added to the list the legue will be a frace,
like said a 16 (or more preferably 18) team prem, with the remaining 4 teams and 3 championship teams with a few reseve teams would be best option, as i think it would spice it up, playing each other twice would add a bit more excitemnt, its to familiar your more or less playing the same teams every other month,
but what do i know
Hope a team doesnt go by defsult messy end to the league then, saying that if we finish third last i wont mind.
Anything without relegation won't work. 5 teams with somethig to play for with 2 months to go and the rest just cutting costs...Quote:
Originally Posted by don ramo
The ten team league was pushed for by greedy "big" teams are living beyond their means who wanted the extra "big game" / "derby" gate receipts to help balance the books.Quote:
Originally Posted by don ramo
Ten team league will be a total bore fest!
A 16 team league made of clubs living within their means is the way to go next season. That would be better for the development of football as a whole. Id love to some trips to Wexford or Athlone rather than another game against Bray.
bhs
In reality, as much as I'd like to see a 14 or 16 team top flight, I can't see the FAI allowing anything other than their planned 10 team premier division next season. Firstly, they'll have to witness it fail miserably before being convinced that it is a bad idea; secondly, is it not simply too late for anything else?
ya for the teams that have been a constant in prem the away trips must get a bit boring
As opposed to the runaway success that was the 12 team premier, and the 16 team one division before that?Quote:
Originally Posted by eelmonster
maybe, but thats hardly a consideration for the league is it, whether some of us are bored of playing Cork?Quote:
ya for the teams that have been a constant in prem the away trips must get a bit boring
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Originally Posted by eelmonster
What? The games dont kick off for about 5 months. A 16 team top tier could easily be quickly arranged.Quote:
Originally Posted by eelmonster
Just rate the teams licence apps on a points basis and take the top 16 rather than the top 10. With so many clubs struggling financially at the mo, I think this process of accessing who are "fittest" top ten clubs is going to have to happen anyways.
bhs
You could get clubs to make presentations. Some might even make a DVD!Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
Unfortunately, under the 2006 proposals, clubs basically entered into a contract which stated the league, must have a top division of 10 clubs from 2009. It cannot be changed now.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
The 10-team league was a failure, is a failure, and will continue to be a failure. Just so there would be an even number of games. :rolleyes: Nothing to do with whether it benefits the league or not.
I know all clubs were asked to make submissions to the FAI this season as it was the end of the 3 year agreement.
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Originally Posted by Dodge
And the 10 team premier before that? I wasn't advocating one division, by the way.
Was it is as biga failure as any of the other league "options"? 12 team league doing well at the moment?Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
How anyone (on either side of the argument) could possible think that a 10 team or 12 team league would make an ounce of difference is beyond me.
Although Wexford have the financial stability, they are not ready to compete at a higher level yet. Regular hammerings by more established professional/semi professional teams will see fans (and players) drift away and set us back years. It's not as if we could go out and recruit players from wherever as that is against the stated aim of the club to source the team locally.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
As for the 10 team league, well the 1st division is like that at present and I think every club will tell you they are sick of playing the same opposition 4 times a year, more if you get drawn in any of the cups.
Cork City will have played Derry 6 times by the end of the season, and we could play Drogs a 7th time if we reach the setanta cup final.
Adding another league game to that is getting out of hand.
I like the idea of a 16 or 18 team league so you only play each other twice but I can't see it happening. Athlone, Kildare, Wexford et al would end up taking severe beatings in the league from the top teams and it would be detrimental to their crowds
In our case the crowds are as low as they will go due to being down to the hardcore already for the past couple of seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
A 18 team league would at least give us some away support and that would help the cash flow situation in the division. I have spent the guts of 15k advertising our games this season and no noticable increase.
I dread to think how bad this division would be crowd wise if Dundalk and Shels were promoted and no offence meant here but UCD and Cobh were relegated.