he's signed with Monaghan for the coming season.Quote:
Originally Posted by christo
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he's signed with Monaghan for the coming season.Quote:
Originally Posted by christo
If Cobh have no choice but to leave the First Division, could Dynamos upgrade to a First Division licence if they wanted? I know Fingal were moved up a division, but maybe they had both licences. I've nothing against other clubs, but it would be better that a Munster club would fill any vacancy.
would kildare not be first on the list to replace any first division team that cannot compete
Kildare County were asked by the FAI to apply for a first division licence just in case a while back.
Dont think we would be ready yet. Gearing up for the A-Championship this season now so its all systems go. Looking forward to watching LOI football in Kerry at last. Hope we get good support!Quote:
Originally Posted by culloty82
Really hope it gets to the point where the A Championship is fully made up of teams that aren't just the reserves of the Premier sides. Could definitely be just what the league needs to create some sort of spark. A real national presence. 3 tiers instead of just 2.
Definitely. If we could even get a ten team non-league 'a' championship it would be great. I'm sure there is teams out there. We already have Tullamore, Kildare, Tralee, Carlow, Salthill, and teams like Castlebar, Mullingar, Portlaoise, Wayside Celtic, a Meath representative, Fanad Utd, Kilkenny City could be persuaded to join.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
Would the costs in a 10 team 'non' league A Championship not be up there with running a First Division club? If so then I wouldn't see too much point in doing that, I'd prefer to just see an expansion in the league itself..
That i'd agree with aswell. A ten team Premier is definitely not enough, 12 should be a minimum. If there was to be a non league A championship then it would more likely be amateur, and just have teams playing each other twiceQuote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
And let there be a continued Playoff with the bottom of the 1sdt divison, it would result in the bootom sides in the 1st divison actaully giving it a real go and would give the amateur sides a chance to make a step up and to give their younger players a chance against bigger teams to impress and maybe earn a deal in the future, look at Wexford, they have done well for an amateur team since they came in.They havn't finished above part time set ups in both their years in the divison!
In reality, I would like to see a 14 to 16 team Premier Division, which would make 26-30 game season, each team playing each other twice instead of 3 or 4 times. After that, the First Division, I would like to see about 12-14 teams, again playing each other twice and a third tier, I would like to see the 4 provinces here, 4 winners of the league combined with the bottom 2 in the First Division to make 2 groups of 3, and winner of each group goes into the First Division.
Sounds good, competitive and workable. The day of teams playing each other 3/4 times plus possible cup clashes has to goQuote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
There might be some benefit in playing reserve teams for clubs adjusting to senior football, but I agree that the League could do with another ten clubs. One of the reasons the League hasn't realised its full potential is that many counties remain unrepresented, so if strong clubs from Mayo Roscommon, Tipp, Clare and Laois to name but a few places were drafted in, the local rivalries would generate strong interest. Maybe two sixteen-team divisions would give the best of both worlds?
26 games is far too few, unless you have some sort of lead up tournament.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
Any news on the licence for the clubs
I think 26 would be a good amount if you make up the 5 or 6 games in another competition like the League Cup. You could add a full regionalised group stage, for example. Or a better Setanta Cup (i.e. play games at the weekend rather than Mondays and Tuesdays).Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
No-one goes to League Cup games though. It's been held as a season starter before. You need a minimum of 33 league games to keep the money coming in and to get the best chance of catching the public's interest.
A small reduction by eliminating the 2 or 3 midweek games wouldn't make as much of a difference so 16 teams might be doable. The quality probably isn't there though.
the current structure i.e. 10 team prem div, 12 team first and then an A division made up mostly of non-league teams (maybe 8 or 10) playing on an amateur basis with the option of prem and first div teams entering teams (3 or 4 of the bigger clubs) into it would be a good start imo.
obviously there is better ideas out there but most workable at the current moment.
Should follow the structure of the Scottish premier league, the split for the 4th time you play teams, what is it 33 games or something like that you play?
That's been tried before. Poor system, I think. Probably more dead games, ironically. Teams who finish one point off the top half are done out of a chance to make a late run for Europe, but have no chance of going down. Also leads to situations of three home games and one away game against a club, or vice versa.
League spilts don't work, as some teams are merely going through the motions for the last few weeks of the season. In an ideal world, there would be a 16 team Premier with 30 games and a 12 team First.
99% sure that castlebar celtic will be playing in the a championship this season. great news and good to have eircom league clubs back in celtic park after the way that we were treated in not being let play in the u20 league last season. new pitch built and now more than likely an eircom league club. great few months for celtic!!:)
Any info or pictures of new pitch?Quote:
Originally Posted by hoop4life
no pictures but it is a 3rd generation astroturf pitch, full size, fully floodlit. once we get licence it is fit to play any level games. fantastic surface. massive asset for celtic. we were paying a couple of grand a year to mayo league to train on their astroturf but our pitch is now going every night of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by GUFCforlife
Well I wish ye the best of luck, no harm for another bit of rivalry out West!Quote:
Originally Posted by hoop4life
thanks!! lost 11 players players to ye, mervue and sligo last year. they dont have to leave now to get eircom league football. have some young excellent young players coming through here.Quote:
Originally Posted by GUFCforlife
Boyler will be banging them in this year :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hoop4life
I like the way the A-league is shaping up, more teams coming through this year. I say let them find their feet and then merge with the First Div and split north/south to reduce costs. Could make the whole thing much more financially sustainable. For example:
Premier Div:
Bohemians, Bray Wanderers, Cork City, Derry City, Drogheda United, Dundalk, Galway United, St Patricks Ath, Shamrock Rovers, Sligo Rovers
First Div (N):
Athlone Town, Castlebar Celtic, Finn Harps, Longford Town, Mervue United, Monaghan Utd, Salthill Devon, Shelbourne, Sporting Fingal, Tullamore Town
First Div (S):
FC Carlow, Cobh Ramblers, Kildare County, Kilkenny City, Limerick, Tralee Dynamoes, UCD, Waterford United, Wayside Celtic, Wexford Youths
IF more teams come through (e.g. Mullingar, Clonmel, Fanad), the First Divs can be beefed up by reducing from 4 rounds of matches to 3. Thoughts???
Would another Dublin team be viable? I don't think so, but I do like your idea. Crowds may benefit through more local derbies, and it would be easier for away fans travelling to games as they wouldn't have as far to travel.Quote:
Originally Posted by chimpster
I think its vital. I'm no Dub, but the population of the capital is large and the bigger clubs need some feeder clubs to help players make the step up from LSL.Quote:
Originally Posted by GUFCforlife
Definitely agree that the "A" clubs need to be given full League membership, as that's their ultimate aim in joining in the first place. Also your regional divisions could definitely work, as the likes of Dynamos, Carlow and Salthill are ambitious, but are lacking the funds to play in a national league at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by chimpster
i agree that that is a very good idea. would cut down travelling expenses big time and also the new clubs like ourselves and tralee would be playing teams more of our own equal like tullamore, salthill and mervue.Quote:
Originally Posted by chimpster
best idea i have heard so far!!
An idea that has been proposed before and probably the one I like the best.
I've been flying that kite since about 2003!
Not fully completed pics but they give an idea :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by GUFCforlife
http://www.castlebarceltic.com/defau...nc=8114&id=509
Please note that the 4 recruits in the pics are not our defensive 4. Digger, tractor, dumper and hi-mac were just there doing the ground work ;)
Will see if I can get a few pics, due up there Sunday for a game.
In principle, it looks like the solution, but there is one problem. Promotion and relegation could soon become an issue should a geographical imbalance occur, leading to a new 'shuffle' of the the 2 first division groups. In my opinion, 4 rounds of matches is too much and people get bored of the same opposition on a regular basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by chimpster
My solution would be a 16 team 1st division, play eachother twice and have no midweek matches. 2 automatic promotion places, and 2 relegation to the A Championship. The 1st division is the second tier of our country and you should be able to afford those costs, if you want to play in it
That already occurs in the Blue Square North and South in England and isn't a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldyouth
That does look a viable option, I think that has to be considered. As I said in my proposal, I would like the Promotion and Relegation to extend to the Provincial leagues and Junior Leagues, to give them something to play for and they can always accept not to be promoted if they wish not to be.
It occurs in lots of leagues. The Spanish third division is regionalised, as is the Belgian third flight, the German fourth division, etc. The whole point of the system is that teams aren't bound to one division or the other, but that there's a new north/south split every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong