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19/06/2008, 5:42 PM
HarpoJoyce

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Originally Posted by GavinZac

Swansea or Wrexham are a different kettle of fish to TNS or Carmentham(sic). Those limited result sets also include the bizarre Longford v Carmentham (siccer) farce which skews it quite a bit. Bohs are now our league leaders whereas Longford were relegation fodder at the time

All LoI teams in Europe perform poorly at on time or another. (concede heavily, lose when they shouldn't, draw when they shouldn't..happens)

This is my problem when LoI clubs are in Europe, non-club fans stick their oar (kettle of fish ref.) in. I want you to remember you have listed a number of Welsh clubs and have not mentioned your own, Barry Town/Cork City FC tie. Are you forgetful or do you know your own history?

You describe other club preformances as a "farce" but your own club performed just as poorly. (The Blessed Co-Efficient)

The Wales v. Rep. of Irl leg at club level is consistently poor.
19/06/2008, 5:44 PM
pineapple stu

But this isn't Wales v Ireland. It's the League of Wales v the League of Ireland. Different thing.

Cork never played Barry Town. They beat Caersws on away goals.
19/06/2008, 5:47 PM
pete

We played Cwambran in the CL qualifiers years ago & scrapped through 4-4 on agg after being 0-3 down away from home.

I would expect Bohs to win in a canter. Aside from Longford debacle LOI has not played welsh teams since start of summer football.
19/06/2008, 5:48 PM
pineapple stu

Cwmbran, my mistake.

Shouldn't be forgotten just how comfortable Longford were aainst Carmarthen for the first game and a half.
19/06/2008, 5:55 PM
HarpoJoyce

There is a little bit of trying to set Bohs up for a fall here. If they through at a trot or walk they can be critised. If they don't go through at all, well good luck, years of fun in store for non-Bohs fans.

I don't buy it, especially the insistance to ignore previous results bar one. A poor performance from some non-Bohs fans here lately tsk,tsk.
19/06/2008, 6:14 PM
GavinZac

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce

I want you to remember you have listed a number of Welsh clubs and have not mentioned your own, Barry Town/Cork City FC tie. Are you forgetful or do you know your own history?

Er, I think you made that one up to be honest. When was it?

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You describe other club preformances as a "farce" but your own club performed just as poorly. (The Blessed Co-Efficient)

We beat Cwmbran in our only ever meeting with a Welsh side (unless you can tell me when that Barry game happened), and that was 15 years ago when both teams were pub sides and is therefore relatively... irrelevant.
19/06/2008, 6:43 PM
HarpoJoyce

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Originally Posted by GavinZac

Er, I think you made that one up to be honest. When was it?

Apologies GavinZac, pete corrected both the memories of the UCD fans who discussed it before. Although he was happy to get a dig at Longford in the process.

My continued point Wales v. Rep. of Irl at club level is poor for the Irish. This is a major difficulty for some LoI fans including yourself.

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Originally Posted by GavinZac;
We beat Cwmbran in our only ever meeting with a Welsh side (unless you can tell me when that Barry game happened), [B

and that was 15 years ago when both teams were pub sides and is therefore relatively... irrelevant[/B].

Your football team lost in Wales, to a League of Wales team.
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl...=52/index.html
This did not fit your argument, you ignored it and trashed your own side later for good measure.

Football happened before you were born. I'm sorry, but you trash history 'cos it doesn't fit your immediate point of view. You should be ashamed of yourself.
19/06/2008, 6:43 PM
Longfordian

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Cwmbran, my mistake.

Shouldn't be forgotten just how comfortable Longford were aainst Carmarthen for the first game and a half.

Still don't know what happened in that second half. Strange goings on.Though I don't want to think about it now either.
19/06/2008, 7:00 PM
GavinZac

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce

Your football team lost in Wales, to a League of Wales team.
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl...=52/index.html
This did not fit your argument, you ignored it and trashed your own side later for good measure.

Football happened before you were born. I'm sorry, but you trash history 'cos it doesn't fit your immediate point of view. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Er, the team that beat Cwmbran would've been pretty much the same team that was around when I started following Cork City two years later. I'm not "trashing" them, they're all legends in my eyes (I both helped to organise a 'legends v celebrities' game for them last year, and togged out in the same!); in fact some of the younger ones, Billy or Biscuits or Colin O'Brien, are still around, but will readily admit (and have done) that things are completely different. You had lads eating burgers in the dressing rooms and smoking in the dugouts. I will not be ashamed of realising that the eircom league is an entirely different entity these days.
19/06/2008, 7:20 PM
GavinZac

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Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce

You should be ashamed of yourself.

The more I read this, the more it annoys me. How dare you tell me I should be ashamed of my opinions? On something as, ultimately, trivial as football? Just moments after chastising me about not knowing some history that happened in your head? Bravo sir - somehow, given my distaste for UCD in general, you are the first UCD fan on my ever expanding ignore list.
19/06/2008, 7:43 PM
pineapple stu

Back on topic...

Fingal 0-1 Kildare
19/06/2008, 8:43 PM
BohsPartisan

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Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce

The LoI away record against Welsh (incl English league) teams is consistently poor. It should be a reminder in case non-Bohs fans get in a tissy if the result over there goes against them.

They've lost some key players and their manager since the end of their season though. If Nutsy puts out our strongest side we should do it.
19/06/2008, 8:44 PM
pineapple stu

2-1 Kildare now. Nearly full time.
19/06/2008, 8:56 PM
Martinho II

Quote:

Originally Posted by GavinZac

Swansea or Wrexham are a different kettle of fish to TNS or Carmentham. Those limited result sets also include the bizarre Longford v Carmentham farce which skews it quite a bit. Bohs are now our league leaders whereas Longford were relegation fodder at the time

sorry gavinzac i know its in the past now but at the time we were fourth in the table when carmarthen hammered us.. that was the start of our decline and financial troubles...:o
19/06/2008, 9:45 PM
GavinZac

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Originally Posted by Martinho II

sorry gavinzac i know its in the past now but at the time we were fourth in the table when carmarthen hammered us.. that was the start of our decline and financial troubles...:o

Must've been the year after so. Still, a deceptive sort of position, like that of Bray now.
20/06/2008, 1:50 AM
Longfordian

Not to be raking up the past but we finished fourth in 2004 and won both cups, I think we finished fifth or sixth in 2005. That was about our level at the time. It wasn't particularly deceptive. We were a midtable team.
20/06/2008, 2:25 AM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Wow. Somebody who sits on a higher horse than Gavin. There can't be too many out there.
21/06/2008, 8:47 PM
GavinZac

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Originally Posted by osarusan

Wow. Somebody who sits on a higher horse than Gavin. There can't be too many out there.

Perhaps not higher, but certainly to my left. As in, I was right? :D
22/06/2008, 3:17 PM
Seagull-4-life

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Originally Posted by GavinZac

Must've been the year after so. Still, a deceptive sort of position, like that of Bray now.

Well I never
22/06/2008, 8:46 PM
A face

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Originally Posted by Seagull-4-life

Well I never

What, you've never been deceived? :p

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