But Hancock does plenty of top level matches, big ones too, surely he's in the Elite group?Quote:
Originally Posted by Réiteoir
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But Hancock does plenty of top level matches, big ones too, surely he's in the Elite group?Quote:
Originally Posted by Réiteoir
I don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Réiteoir
There were other very bad refereeing decisions earlier in the season and we had no 'transparency and accountability' then.
Imho - it's a reaction to the cumulative airing it got on MNS. Where's the 'transparency and accountability' on Hancock in Dundalk Vs Shels last Friday?
Does the UEFA Refereeing Devleopment Plan extend to the First Division?
There's be no feckin refs left, the standard is so poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fintan Cassidy
Hanney had to go, twas terrible stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fintan Cassidy
There was an observer at the Dundalk game, and, apparently, he was none too happy with Hancock's performance. But because it was in the First Division and nobody outside of Oriel saw it, it has obviously been brushed under the carpet seeing as he's reffing a Premier game tonight. Tuite and Hanney were obviously only punished as they were embarrassed on national TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by sfc red
How long will it be before they decide to go on strike? or even just give up the game altogether?
AFAIK there is an observer at every game.Quote:
Originally Posted by sfc red
I missed MNS - what did Hanney and Tuite do (or not do) that was shown on MNS?
Tuite missed a Bray defender on the line blatently handling the ball to stop it going in. I'm not sure about the other guy.
Is there a list anywhere of which refs have done which games BTW?
I have some sympathy for referees collectively, but there's no doubt that the increased TV coverage (as in England) is highlighting the high level of incorrect decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesThompson
I'm not sure if having two refs would address the problem as whilst a lot of the errors are down to poor positioning, in a lot of cases the referee clearly sees the incident and still makes the wrong call.
Hanney turned down a penalty shout and sent off Jamie McKenzie for diving at Turner's Cross (second yellow, the first was pretty dodgy too if I remember it right) when it was in fact a stonewall peno. A woeful decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Nail on head all those who said that if Dundalk-Shels had been on telly there might have been three refs with five weeks off. Another reason to show Div 1 highlights maybe? :D
This is purely in response to being highlighted so starkly, and publicly. But it's none the worse for that. Hope the refs body have started (albeit well overdue) as they mean to go on. And that MNS keep showing up those unacceptable performances.
The Dundalk Shels game was one of the most exciting games I've ever seen. Would have looked good on tv. Once they didn't show the halftime entertainment :D
I love the way the Dundalk lads are going on about the Shels game last week :)
Do you even know what the red cards were handed out for ??
He probably deserves to be suspended for the double booking and no red card of Keddy but I thought overall he was ok.
Dundalk lost the plot, not the ref !!
Cassidy was sent-off for running at the linesman! He never said a word to him, just ran at him. Apparently it's called "intentional dissent".Quote:
Originally Posted by higgins
elite ,school of excellence blody hell who picks them terms
The PR department picks them, going forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
We dont really need to be shaming them to be honest. If it forces them to improve then it will be enough. That's the objective. I know we all feel hard done by but they are a vital part of the game and i dont think shame on its own will help them improve. A big part in this would be the will to change and improve, honest observation of the performances and seeking to improve upon decisions/games where they know they made mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
Exactly, there is alot of time and effort goes in on their behalf and that has to be recognised. If they start throwing the towel then it can only get worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesThompson
Two refs is a no go, not a chance. If games in other leagues have only one ref there is no reason it cant be done here. They just need to improve. Maybe even have more refs and invest in training etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Highlighting it is good and i think all the refs would agree as well. If its a means to an end then its a good thing. If we ever want to game to improve here then we need refs to progress as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by stann
Generic UEFA Terms - I'm part of our County FA School of Excellence here in England - but it goes under a slightly different name of "Referees Devleopment Group".Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
One of my colleagues works closely with the Bedfordshire FA School of Excellence - they're all down at a tournament in the east of England this weekend.
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Originally Posted by passerrby
What do you expect them to call it, school of mediocrity ?
Wouldnt exactly inspire any refs to try their best would it ?
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Originally Posted by The Lilywhites
So a player acts the tit but lets blame the ref as usual.
No sympathy for the player, we need a lot more of those decisions and maybe eventually people will start to get the message and cop themselves on
What planet have you been on for the past week:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by monutdfc