It was submitted to the judge yesterday, 8 weeks after the conviction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
When it was written I dont know
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It was submitted to the judge yesterday, 8 weeks after the conviction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
When it was written I dont know
Could be an important distinction, before the lynching continues
It cannot have been written previous to the conviction; it would've been used in the form of a character witness during the trial itself had it been presented or obtained before that. If somehow the defence attorney attempted to use a pre-conviction testimonial after conviction, during sentencing, they'd be disbarred.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
I dont see how. A letter from the TD was submitted for consideration during sentencing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I presume they cannot do this without the permission of the TD.
If they have something written down, they can do what they like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
The trail was about the incidents, so someone's charchter isn't really relevent. Presumably it wouldn't have been allowed to enter the record at this stage.Quote:
It cannot have been written previous to the conviction; it would've been used in the form of a character witness during the trial itself had it been presented or obtained before that. If somehow the defence attorney attempted to use a pre-conviction testimonial after conviction, during sentencing, they'd be disbarred.
I'll bow to your legal knowloedge if you're positive they'd be disbarred
The she shouldnt have written it down without being 100% certain he was innocent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Even if that was the situation it wouldnt change the way I feel about it tbh. She's still bascially trying to help a paedophile
And all because the paedophile's family are friends/donors, jesus this place sickens me more and more. More power to you for trying to get these two morons kicked out of office as well, have the local radio ran a story on it yet? Or the Echo even?Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
It was reported in the echo but just the bare facts. That they had sent letters.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
The radio reported the story, and we're now sorting out that one of the girls talk to them if she thinks she can. They didnt want to go public but because of this are too angry not to.
Bizarre behaviour from an elected politician. Seems the letters could only be sent post conviction & to be considered by the judge when sentencing. Can't even see how appeals for leniency work when the defendant contested the full trial & these are no acts of a once off mistake.
Good to see he got a half decent sentence although obviously no sentence would be long enough.
If they were appeals for leniency, pete.
Is it normal for the names of character referee's to be read out in court? I just wondered whether it's normal for them to be named and shamed or whether it's normally done without that. Actually, I guess we'll know by how the other parties react - if it's heads down they're all at it.
You're off your head if you think this is confined to Ireland...Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
I don't, I could refrain it to this world sickens me more and more, but I'm living in Ireland so I'll say that the Land of Blarney sickens me more and more with each passing day for the time being.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Trust me Dodge, and LtiD and SLK will back me up on this one, I don't think much of man as a species at this stage and rant about how we all deserve to be wiped off the planet like the plague that we are quite frequently. See my thread on the Dog Exhibit for another remaining chunk of my belief in humanity being hacked off and ground into the dust
Gav emailed Newstalk earlier. They rang him back there.
George Hook plans to ring Kathleen Lynch for the right hook.
RedFm are planning to interview one of the girls also
Is that today? What time as well, I normally don't listen to Hook but I will when this is onQuote:
Originally Posted by micls
Half 4 afaik.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Red Fm have tried to contact her but she isnt answering her phone
I always think it very odd that convicted criminals try to rely on letters such as this to be used to verify to the Judge that they are of good character,come from a good background and (in this case) a first time offender.... surely the logic should then be that if all of the foregoing is true about you , then surely your sentence should be at the higher end of the scale rather than the lower one, on the basis that you've had every chance in life and therefore you behaviour is worse that someone from a deprived background etc
IMO crimes should be judged on a standalone basis and no such letters should be allowed.
RTE report
With be interesting to see how politicians spin that.Quote:
The judge said he noted letters received from Labour TD Kathleen Lynch and former Lord Mayor of Cork John Murray indicating that Casey came from a well regarded family but he said there was little in the way of mitigating circumstances.
Not to draw attention away from this particular incident, but who is this moron arguing against lesbian couples having custody of children on Newstalk?Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
Does anybody know how old these girls were?
Think I read somewhere 15 and 17.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan