As of right now what 24 man squad would you call up?

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

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1) He's performing very well in the championship

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Good reason to call him up....

My squad would be

With retirements:

Given
Doyle, C.
Murphy, J.

Kilbane
O'Shea
Delaney
Dunne
Doherty
St. Ledger
O'Brien, J.
Kelly

Duff
McGeady
Carsley
Reid, A.
Reid, S.
Whelan
Hunt
Lawrence
Miller/Rowlands

Keane
Doyle, K.
Morrison
Murphy, D.


A team of:

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Kelly Dunne St. Ledger O'Shea

McGeady S. Reid A. Reid Hunt

Keane
Doyle

or maybe Carsley and the two Reids ina 5 man midfield supporting Keane.


And if we think that O'Brien, Ireland, Finnan and Kenny (!) come back:

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Kenny
Doyle, C.

O'Shea
Kilbane
Dunne
O'Brien, A.
Doherty
St. Ledger (McShane excluded on lack of club games - subject to change)
Finnan
Kelly


Duff
McGeady
Hunt
Lawrence
Carsley
Reid, S.
Reid, A.
Ireland
O'Brien, J.

Keane,
Doyle, K.
Morisson
Murphy, D.

Starting line-up:

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Finnan Dunne A. O'Brien O'Shea

McGeady S.Reid A.Reid Hunt
Ireland

Keane

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Originally Posted by dr_peepee

What's Long or Murphy done that Morrison hasn't???

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Scored Premiership goals this season. If Morrison was anyways good he would be in the premiership right now. O'Donovan is miles better than Morrison.

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Originally Posted by FarBeag

Really! Why do you think this.?Why is Darren O' Dea not laughable and Damian Delaney so funny for instance?

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O'Dea probably shouldn't be there either but to say Delaney, at age 26, should be included is actually laughable. What experience has he at this level, at least O'Dea has CL experience but Delaney is playing against the likes of Scunthorpe, Sheffield Wednesday and Barnely. A bit of a step up to Berbadov and co. Like I say I don't think O'Dea will be part of any set up either

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Originally Posted by FarBeag

How is Liam miller any better that Liam Lawrence/Wes Hoolahan/Martin Rowlands?

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Yes, he has so much more proven experience that those guys. Hoolahan's only big time experience was with Shels and agaianst Rangers/Celtic in Scotland.

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Originally Posted by FarBeag

Long instead of Morrison ha ha. Your team selection is even more crazy. What sort of a midfield is that? They would be destroyed as they are way too light weight and none of the Reid's or Duffer included. Kilbane at left back and no Robbie Keane. Jesus wept I say. I think the laugh is on you mate. I am off to get drunk.;)

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Would Morrison be on ahead of Long at Reading? Exactly he wouldn't! Morrison was an average player 10 years ago, now hes just a has been along with Hasselbank and Teddy Sheringham in that division in England. Kilbane is a regular left back for Wigan, Reid is just back from injury and A Reid needs to lose at least 2 stone. Robbie Keane has been terrible for Ireland in the last campaign and Duff is finished, has been for a long time.

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

Roy O D is in the premiership solely on Keane bias and he's the worst player on the pitch anytime he plays. He'll either be back in the eircom league or in league one in a season or two.

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He took John Terry to the cleaners last weekend. Before that he was injured. That was his first game back. That was his 3rd start, on his 2nd start he got injured after 20 minutes. So he is the worst player on the field the 2.5 times that he has played :rolleyes: I take it you don't like the lad.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport...name_page.html

I find it unbelieveable how some people in this forum are so dismissive of players and so negative. There is no harm in including the likes of O Donovan, Delaney, O Dea, St Leger in the next training squad and have a look at them.There were times when Duff, Finnan, Hunt, Doyle etc were Championship players and lower, even if ya want to go a long way back I think John Aldridge and Ray Houghton were playing at Oxford when they got called into the Irish squad first.There should be an extended squad for the training camp in Portugal and the 2 friendlies and then let the manager decide who he thinks is good enough and ya never know we might find a few players that are good enough to be in the squad on a regular basis.

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

Of course there's no harm in that. They're all backup of backups and Trap would be foolish to not know of them and keep somebody watching them. But they all have a lot to prove and there's several players in their position already who to put it bluntly are better than them. It's a no brainer.

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Out of all the current CB's only Dunne at this moment in time is better than St Ledger.

Although they would make a very good CB pairing

Mark my words this lad has the potential to be a top class player!

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

I find it unbelieveable how some people in this forum are so dismissive of players and so negative. There is no harm in including the likes of O Donovan, Delaney, O Dea, St Leger in the next training squad and have a look at them.There were times when Duff, Finnan, Hunt, Doyle etc were Championship players and lower, even if ya want to go a long way back I think John Aldridge and Ray Houghton were playing at Oxford when they got called into the Irish squad first.There should be an extended squad for the training camp in Portugal and the 2 friendlies and then let the manager decide who he thinks is good enough and ya never know we might find a few players that are good enough to be in the squad on a regular basis.

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I assumed that people were talking about the 1st competitive squad. If there are training squads then of course all possible future players should be looked at but none of these are ready for a qualification challange this year. If the managment are serious about qualification then I think that they will not be blooding any new players through. That should have been done by Staunton but he was a bit mixed up in himself. The Irish team is not great but is better than most International sides and I think we can finish 2nd ahead of Bulgaria but they don't have time to test out new players. Im sure Carsely will be in the holding role as well as Keane instead of Murphy.

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Originally Posted by the doc

Out of all the current CB's only Dunne at this moment in time is better than St Ledger.

Although they would make a very good CB pairing

Mark my words this lad has the potential to be a top class player!

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Paul McShane was also rated very highly in that division. Im sure hes a top class player in that league but to be qualifying for tthe WC Championship players are not good enough.

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Originally Posted by the doc

Out of all the current CB's only Dunne at this moment in time is better than St Ledger.

Although they would make a very good CB pairing

Mark my words this lad has the potential to be a top class player!

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You are wasting your time trying to get through to Ciaran. He lives in his own little football world and is totally insight less when it comes to anyone else’s views on who they think will be an asset to the Irish international team. He is happy to go along with the same 24 squad members who Stan lost his job to, over two of whom are retired, one who does not want to play for us, some played out of position in an area they are clearly not or never will be suited to, some of who will never be good enough for international football (tried and tested) and some who are in the premiership squads but cant get a game. Irish lads who play in the Championship (apart from Morrison) and play well are non existent as far as he is concerned. When a query is put to him as to why he expresses certain views which at times that are totally outrageous he ignores the post and continues into his little rants and deluded beliefs. He has also proved that he has never seen Damian Delaney play because he thinks he still plays for Cork City.

He has got to be one of the most frustrating individual on this forum to try and have a balanced and constructive argument with him so in summary its pointless trying to put your point across no matter how simple it is because he just wont get it.

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Originally Posted by finnpark

Scored Premiership goals this season. If Morrison was anyways good he would be in the premiership right now. O'Donovan is miles better than Morrison.

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How many has Murphy scored? Two at the most. How many has long scored? Not many more and if he continues to get childish strops like he did when he was taken off on Sunday because he was Sh!t he wont get a game with Galway Utd. Just because they play or are mostly subs in the premiership does not make them better players than Morrison. Murphy came up with Sunderland, Morrison did not and besides Clinton being a better player this is all they have in common.

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Originally Posted by finnpark

O'Dea probably shouldn't be there either but to say Delaney, at age 26, should be included is actually laughable. What experience has he at this level, at least O'Dea has CL experience but Delaney is playing against the likes of Scunthorpe, Sheffield Wednesday and Barnely. A bit of a step up to Berbadov and co. Like I say I don't think O'Dea will be part of any set up either


Yes, he has so much more proven experience that those guys. Hoolahan's only big time experience was with Shels and agaianst Rangers/Celtic in Scotland.



Would Morrison be on ahead of Long at Reading? Exactly he wouldn't! Morrison was an average player 10 years ago, now hes just a has been along with Hasselbank and Teddy Sheringham in that division in England. Kilbane is a regular left back for Wigan, Reid is just back from injury and A Reid needs to lose at least 2 stone. Robbie Keane has been terrible for Ireland in the last campaign and Duff is finished, has been for a long time.

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You are the one who included O’Dea in your preferred squad and this is why I referred to him. Andy Reid may be overweight but if we had a whole team of fattys with Reid’s football brain and ability we would be in Switzerland and Austria later this year. Steven Reid may have been injured but he is not now and puts man of the match performances week in week out for Blackburn.

We have a crisis at left back and fair enough if you think that Kilbane is the answer to all our prayers but what happens if he gets injured? Who would you play there then O’Shea I suppose a par timer for Manu U who has no ambition. Damian Delaney is 26, (holy Moses) a left footer who plays regular football on a weekly basis. He has player in the premiership before so has experience. I have seen him play for QPR on a number of occasions and he is good.

Robbie Keane is the best forward Ireland has ever produced and is likely to be for some time to come. Doyle or any other potential Ireland forward have not a patch on him. Anyway there is a thread on him so if you want to hear more about his ability read that.

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Originally Posted by FarBeag

How many has Murphy scored? Two at the most.

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Murphy has 3 goals - he's scored against Bolton, Birmingham and Wigan

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Originally Posted by FarBeag

How many has long scored? Not many more

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Long has 3 as well - scored VS Portsmouth, Newcastle and Man City

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

A) You're the one trying to kick off some little e-fight with me with your over obvious digs at me any given chance.

B) Why would I watch 2nd tier games? If that's the level our countries team is at then we're deluding ourself about qualification from day 1.

C) It's Soccer not Football.

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Look mate. I am just trying to get my point across which you fail to see or acknowledge and are extremely frustrating. Don’t worry I wont hurt your feelings anymore. I will try and constructively argue/agree/debate with someone who is not on a continuous mission to wind people up.

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Murphy has 3 goals - he's scored against Bolton, Birmingham and Wigan
Long has 3 as well - scored VS Portsmouth, Newcastle and Man City

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Fair enough two or three not much difference and against very weak opposition. Its hardly going to get them a pay rise is it? Sorry I am not trying to be pedantic here.

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Originally Posted by FarBeag

How many has Murphy scored? Two at the most. How many has long scored? Not many more and if he continues to get childish strops like he did when he was taken off on Sunday because he was Sh!t he wont get a game with Galway Utd. Just because they play or are mostly subs in the premiership does not make them better players than Morrison. Murphy came up with Sunderland, Morrison did not and besides Clinton being a better player this is all they have in common.

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QPR tried to sign Murphy, Sunderland rejected the offer. 2M€ as far as I remember. Keane has also said that a number of other premiership teams are interested in him but that hes not for sale. Its not just me that thinks hes good. Hes not world class but neither is Robbie Keane, Long or Doyle.

If any Palace player makes the squad it will be 2007 Young Player of the Year Sean Scannell who is 17

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

C) It's Soccer not Football.

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I didn't realise this was an american sports forum. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by finnpark

QPR tried to sign Murphy, Sunderland rejected the offer. 2M€ as far as I remember. Keane has also said that a number of other premiership teams are interested in him but that hes not for sale. Its not just me that thinks hes good. Hes not world class but neither is Robbie Keane, Long or Doyle.

If any Palace player makes the squad it will be 2007 Young Player of the Year Sean Scannell who is 17

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As a Palace fan I can tell you it should undoubtedly be Clinton of the two who gets in the squad. I'm not sure what your basing your anti-Morrison on but you clearly don't know much about him. Not only has he been scoring goals this season but his work rate has been immense and you'll find him back in the right back slot winning the ball back. Also if a youngster makes a mistake or does something well it's only ever Clint who is encouraging them. So IMO he deserves to be in the next squad ahead of anyone else.

Also whilst doing all this in 99% of games Clint has been playing on the left wing.

Take them both