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I'd agree with that Gilesy was superd last night. He actually knows what he is talking about which is a change along with the fact he doesn't talk bull if a player isn't playing well he berates him. S. Gerrard last night wasa fine example. If that was Andy "blowhole" Gray he would have commended Gerrard on another fantastic performance from the "Skipper".Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Without a doubt. Anyone watch ITV highlights at 10.30. They hailed gerrard's performance and even had a clip titled Gerrard to the rescue????
WTF!! he repeated the "Arsenal need to get back to passing the ball and in order to do this they need to believe in themselves" line about 15 times in 5 mins after Liverpool equalised the first timeQuote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
"believe in themselves" is Giles's alternative to saying "moral courage" :)
When he does the co commentary, I think it leaves big gap on the Studio Panel.
Maybe out of respect they should have an empty chair, with his glass of water on the table.
I agree. John Giles is a class apart.
I normally look forward to RTE's analysis but last night I was outraged by Eamon Dunphys personal attack on Arsene Wenger saying he had lost the plot and was like John Cleese etc. etc. Dunphys job is to analyse football not suggest a manager is mentally unwell. Liam Brady was put in an impossible position and was right to object to this.
I think they are right in saying he should have bought in January and that they lack leadership but there was not need to stoop to the level of personal mockery
I'm not saying it wasn't a good point just that he repeated himself over and over as though he couldn't think of anything else to sayQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Which Dunphy have you been looking at over the past 20+ years :confused: ? That's what he does. Personal attacks. I didn't see it last night but he normally castigates Benitez and praises Wenger. Was it the usual volte face?Quote:
Originally Posted by myleftfoot
Cue a formal announcement from Bill tonight about the absolute impartiality in the (pre prepared) presentation of the montage of Wenger's sideline agony traumas etc etc
it all breaks out exactly in the middle of the 5th segment of the CL analysis.
Brady says outright 'would you have shown that segment tonight Bill, if Arsenal had won'
Dunphy said that 'it's analysis'
Brady 'thats not analysis, that a stitch up that was already in the can'
Souness turns his head away and laughing as in - not again.
Brady said both managers need to be applauded and the game tonight needs to be applauded.
Dunphy condescendingly arrogant says while waving his pen at Brady, 'hold on a minute baby, you have jumped over the fence',
sure gerrard himself admitted in a post match interview that he was awful but then when itv went back to the studio we got the "well if he thinks that he must set very high standards for himself" line from the robbie earle!! the rte panel are streets ahead of the british channelsQuote:
Originally Posted by Donegalred
Like when they castigated Ronaldo at every opportunity. They're quiet now about that. ITV the hype. RTE the negativity. Take your pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
IMO the panelists on RTE are calling it as they see it, ITV are calling it as they are told to see it.
I found it funny when Dunphy said that Man Utd had ordinary centre midfielders.
Except they seem to wear different glasses every week because their opinions are forever changing. Also they like being controversial for the sake of it which is tantamount to doing what they're told as well :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Only one of them is controversial for the sake of saying it. From my experience, the rest of them are relatively balanced. They do seem to have preferences (particularly Brady and understandably so) but I think the rest of them - bar Dunphy - try to give an honest opinion. I'd even say Dunphy believes most of what he says.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Balanced is something the panel has NEVER been from the days of Big Jack onwards. Giles and Dunphy always sang from the same hymm sheet.
I wonder when Laughing Bill is going to ask the two muppets "That Paul Jewell you interviewed for the Irish job Johnny and whom you vehemently supported Eamon, how's he getting on at Derby?".
To be fair I think the time to judge Jewell at Derby will be next season, not this when he took over a team that had overachieved in the Championship and came up way too early. They did not have the quality or the money for the Premiership.
There are also some other very poor teams in the Premiership and he hasn't managed to beat ONE! Appaling and he was the man who was going to turn round our fortunes :eek:. He was also poor at Wednesday but not as bad as this.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Billy Davies only beat 1 team, Derby are probably the worst team ever to play in the Premiership and they have been awful. As I said lets judge Jewel at the end of next season. He was good with Bradford and Wigan. Poor with Wednesday and too early to judge with Derby
But surely if they thought Davies was worth sacking they presumed that a new manager would revive their fortunes which he obviously didnt so he should be judged on thatQuote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
for example ronaldo was awful in last yrs semi v ac milan when it really counted but this year he has been a better against the better teams and they have admitted their error. they are as positive as they need to be and as negative as they need to be. give me your so-called negativity over hype any dayQuote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan